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[lordmage]

waldo i must correct you a copyright can be applied to original content posted online you only have to fille a copyright for conjuction with trademarking on a product. also to getcha i did notice those vids and was a little puzzled it would also be good to place a notice of intent to those who wish to use your videos.

sorce clipping : from http://www.umuc.edu/library/copy.shtml#elec
Copyright and Electronic Publishing The same copyright protections exist for the author of a work regardless of whether the work is in a database, CD-ROM, bulletin board, or on the Internet.
If you make a copy from an electronic source, such as the Internet or WWW, for your personal use, it is likely to be seen as fair use. However, if you make a copy and put it on your personal WWW site, it less likely to be considered fair use.
The Internet IS NOT the public domain. There are both uncopyrighted and copyrighted materials available. Assume a work is copyrighted.

i will also suggect reading his nice information at http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html

 

[dumwaldo]

waldo i must correct you a copyright can be applied to original content posted online you only have to fille a copyright for conjuction with trademarking on a product. also to getcha i did notice those vids and was a little puzzled it would also be good to place a notice of intent to those who wish to use your videos.

sorce clipping : from Copyright and Fair Use - Information & Library Services - UMUC
Copyright and Electronic Publishing The same copyright protections exist for the author of a work regardless of whether the work is in a database, CD-ROM, bulletin board, or on the Internet.
If you make a copy from an electronic source, such as the Internet or WWW, for your personal use, it is likely to be seen as fair use. However, if you make a copy and put it on your personal WWW site, it less likely to be considered fair use.
The Internet IS NOT the public domain. There are both uncopyrighted and copyrighted materials available. Assume a work is copyrighted.

In the USA a copyright notice is a requirement to get a copyright.

I really do not believe the video's igetcha posts are copyrighted. I am reasonably sure he does the same thing as everybody else and makes a video and uploads it.

If he actually does hold a copyright I would love to see the filing.

If he was copyrighting his video's they would not be provided in such a timely fashion. It takes time to apply and be granted a copyright.

DW

EDIT
if you are going to quote information about copyright please try to do so from the title 17 copyright laws of the united states.

 

[radiokaos]

Forget about copyright and look at the ethics behind this.

Vendor A, uses persons B videos to profit on their work and efforts.

Does that seem right?

 

[igetcha]

I am subscribed to your video's on YouTube and i have never seen any kind of copyright notices anywhere on any of your video. You don't automagically own a copyright just because you created the video. You actually have to file with a copyright office and it really does not look to me as if you have ever done that. It looks to me like you created video's and placed them in the public domain with no protections.

Do you actually have a copyright on any of your video's? I am not entirely sure about the laws in the UK but here in the USA you are required to have a copyrighted work identified as copyrighted.

I also would like to point out that copyright infringement is not by any measure, "stealing". Stealing deprives the owner of their property. You have not been deprived of your property and though it is much more sensationalistic to use a word like stealing it is not accurate.

I understand you are upset but that is not an excuse to ignore reality and the person you should be most upset with seems to be yourself.

I was under the impression you were making the video's you post on youtube for the benefit of e-cig users. If that is the case then I see no reason why you would be upset that someone else is spreading the information to others.

DW

i suggest you read the youtube terms and conditions mate!

i retain full ownership rights and ONLY youtube has the right to distribute my videos which they do by providing the embed code.........full stop!

you dont need to file a copyright for youtube. if you create an original work then you own the copyright.

not theft? tell that to the music companies who have their songs stolen!

why should i put all my time and effort into making videos that are trying to help people and then watch some other mug steal them and get the credit!

bollocks to that!

 

[ladybug51]

just been informed that he also has rita's videos on his site too

I saw that. Rita's filling cart vid.

Where is he using/or used yours boyfriend? Isn't there anything you can do to this #######! I don't care if he take it off, it shouldn't have been there, AT ALL, to begin with.

I'm asking cause I don't know the in's and out's. And I went to his stupid web site and it says it's now Vapour Country? What gives?

Am I clicking correctly?
Bug

 

[breakfastchef]

Back to thhe point of this thread...Kick It Stick flavors are good. I cannot say the are superior, but I am still looking for any e-liquid that can rise to this level. If the product you want is in stock, shipping is fast. I can see no reason why anyone would not consider Kick It Stick as a routine supplier.

 

[Carmel]

From reading around here dumbwaldo looks as though he likes to cause trouble and controversay everywhere he lands. IG is correct in his statements.

 

[ladybug51]

Forget about copyright and look at the ethics behind this.

Vendor A, uses persons B videos to profit on their work and efforts.

Does that seem right?

How come I go to your site and can't get past the first page to see what you have?

I shop around before I sign up and buy. I have always been able to shop around without signing up personal info.

 

[breakfastchef]

You are both astute and correct in your observations.

From reading around here dumbwaldo looks as though he likes to cause trouble and controversay everywhere he lands. IG is correct in his statements.

 

[ladybug51]

Back to thhe point of this thread...Kick It Stick flavors are good. I cannot say the are superior, but I am still looking for any e-liquid that can rise to this level. If the product you want is in stock, shipping is fast. I can see no reason why anyone would not consider Kick It Stick as a routine supplier.

Is it Kick It Stick or Vapor Country. That's what I get when I go to KIS. Now called Vapor Country. ???

 

[dumwaldo]

you dont need to file a copyright for youtube. if you create an original work then you own the copyright.

That is not right igetcha. this is what the TOS on YT says...

"For clarity, you retain all of your ownership rights in your User Submissions."

If you did not copyright it then you have no ownership rights to retain.

copyrights do not just happen, they MUST be filed for. If no copyright office issues a copyright then you have no copyright.

You should look into this if you wish for your video's to be copyrighted. seriously, I am not trying to bust your balls. I am trying to offer you information that it did not look like you were aware of.

BTW
I am not sure if I impressed this point clearly enough but I am not familiar with UK copyright laws. What I am telling you is based on a fairly extensive study and understanding of the title 17 copyright laws of the USA.

 

[dumwaldo]

From reading around here dumbwaldo looks as though he likes to cause trouble and controversay everywhere he lands. IG is correct in his statements.

Yes, the truth often gets in the way of popular misconceptions.

DW

 

[radiokaos]

Yes, the truth often gets in the way of popular misconceptions.

DW

Still did not answer my question.

Forget copyright and look at the ethics behind this move.

I presented that question back a few threads ago.

 

[lordmage]

dw title 17 would only apply if getcha was in the us or a treaty location and so far i have not seen anything reguireing his to pre register for copyright only to fill claims if he is infringed

 

[dumwaldo]

Still did not answer my question.

Forget copyright and look at the ethics behind this move.

I presented that question back a few threads ago.

It probably is unethical but I try not to make those judgments against others as plenty of the things I do, and have done, in my life would be judged unethical by others.

DW

 

[dumwaldo]

dw title 17 would only apply if getcha was in the us or a treaty location and so far i have not seen anything reguireing his to pre register for copyright only to fill claims if he is infringed

If you do not apply for a copyright you may not claim ownership of the material.

 

[mamacat]

Is it Kick It Stick or Vapor Country. That's what I get when I go to KIS. Now called Vapor Country. ???

Good question.... I ordered from him last Thursday when it was KickIt and went just now and saw where it has changed. Got a biz card that says KickIt and return addy that said KickIt, tho.

 

[lordmage]

source please otherwise fishing attempt
from http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.pdf which came from the aformentiond copyright office
The way in which copyright protection is secured is frequently
misunderstood. No publication or registration or other action
in the Copyright Office is required to secure copyright. (See
following note.) There are, however, certain definite advantages
to registration. See “Copyright Registration” on page
from same pdf
Even though registration is not a requirement for
protection

 

[igetcha]

If you do not apply for a copyright you may not claim ownership of the material.

youtube states that i own full ownership rights.

besides, you have obviously not read the "igetcha terms and conditions" which clearly state......and i quote:-

paragraph 2: section 3A - dont copy my ****ing work and then upload it to your own bleeding site to claim the credit.


i rest my case

 

[dumwaldo]

ignorance truly is bliss.

Why even bother having laws?