510 aomizer permanent sollution to the burnt taste

[skrankesvi]

First of all, i know this in not the right forum but i have less than 5 posts, so im limited to the beginners forum...


I took one of the 510 atomzers apart to see where the burnt taste came from.
I found out that there are 2 wicks, one inside the heating coil and one on the brige. On most of my atomizers the wick was only touching the coil on one side -meaning that the other side would not get fed liquid, an burn way too hot.
see pic 1.

To get better wicking i took some glassfibres and pushed them under the bridge and around the wick and back under the bridge(i used some steel wire to pull them through)
see pic 2.

Then i took the fibres and bend them over the bridge and put the "tube" back on the atomizer, holding the fibres in place
see pic 3 and 4

I did this today and is still testing the result, but it is very impressive so far.
By the way i did this on 9 brand new mega cart atomizers from tw, and 1 i had used for 5 mins and already got the sickening burnt taste. I dont know if this can get the burnt taste out of a bad atomizer, but it should prevent it....

 

[redrhino]

 

[doppie]

I personaly take out everything above the heating coil and just drip. My 510 atties last for about 3 months ,and i'm a constent vaper..

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[skrankesvi]

I preper to use the carts, especially when i am at work. but this mod is really working good for me, i get about the same taste as with dripping.
The burnt taste thing really looks like just bad manufactoring on the one wick. Here is a picture from the other side of the atomizer, it is very clear that the coil is getting fed in only one side.

 

[skrankesvi]

Ok it seems i have used up my upload quota....

 

[skrankesvi]

I am able to upload again so here are the pic from the other side of the atomizer...

 

[Dave_uk]

Thank you for your work skrankesvi... I'd been wondering why the my latest 510 attys had a funny taste.

 

[skrankesvi]

After vaping for a couple of hours i find that the taste when dripping is a little bit sweeter than with just a cart. But this gets nowhere near the burned taste.
Also when dripping it can take a lot more drops without the "gurgling" sound and drowning becaurse of the rather big wick. 4-8 drops depending on the added wick.
Maybe some fine tuning on the new wick can give that perfect dripping taste all the time.
Also the burnt atomizer i had seems to have gotten the good taste back again(i boiled it before i did the mod) and is keeping it.

I would really appreciate if someone could link this to the www dot e-cigarette-forum dot com/forum/ecigarette-technical-issues/66080-burnt-taste-all-my-attys-36 dot html thread since i still do not have enough post to do links in that forum.
This could even explain the weird nickel mesh thing since the coil would propably get hot enough to destroy this.

P.S. Sorry for the weird spelling sometimes. My old keyboard is about to give up on me...

I would really like to get some feedback from people who have tried this mod

 

[Kelemvor]

i did that already to 801 and 901 too. what you should now, most of those fibre you can buy have some coating on them.

i always boil them in water and dry them in my kitchen oven at 250°C and washing again before i use them in my atomizers. result is no "sweet" taste.

 

[Hawk52501]

Put a link in that section for ya

 

[skrankesvi]

It is a very good idea about boiling the findes first..
By the sweet taste i ment the Nice ones from the fruity flavours. Currently i am using mostly coconut, which i could hardly taste on the original atomizers, becaurse of the bad chemical sweet taste...

#Kelemvor what fibres do you use? I use fibres from a glass fibre mat, but it is a bit of a pain, picking the fibres out...

And thanks for the feedback - and the link... really appreciate it.

 

[Kelemvor]

in a german forum people testet lots of different fibres. this was essential because the Greencig G120 Cartomizer is very popular here. and its possible to exchange the fibre and coil on these.

the current fibre i use would be hard to get in the us i think. but its a snow-white "rope" to seal oven doors. i get that at a local DIY -Homeworker shop, don't know currently how its named in english, sorry

[edit] its not easy to find some that are pure glasfibres and most are woven and not only twisted

[edit2] seems i found something with a picture, look at the Twisted rope

http://www.extremeheatprotection.co...nitted-soft-dense-twisted-square-braided.html

 

[skrankesvi]

I think i know what type og fibres you are using.
The fibres i am using are a little bit rougher than the original wick.
I am currently trying to add very little water to my liquid to make it a little bit thinner to suit my new wick.
I want that perfect dripping taste -even when i am using carts...

 

[skrankesvi]

Just a little update.
Tried to put in a little water in the liquid, to get that dripping taste - which didnt do anything...
So just using normal liquid i am getting a normal taste like a good atomizer with carts.
If i really vape heavily, i can get a little bit burned taste (very little). Bit If i lay it down for 30 sec. or so, it is back to normal - no cleaning, just a little rest....
All in all i am very happy with this mod...

 

[lorikay13]

in a german forum people testet lots of different fibres. this was essential because the Greencig G120 Cartomizer is very popular here. and its possible to exchange the fibre and coil on these.

the current fibre i use would be hard to get in the us i think. but its a snow-white "rope" to seal oven doors. i get that at a local DIY -Homeworker shop, don't know currently how its named in english, sorry

[edit] its not easy to find some that are pure glasfibres and most are woven and not only twisted

[edit2] seems i found something with a picture, look at the Twisted rope

High Temperature Heat Flame Resistant Fiberglass Rope - Knitted Twisted and Square Braided Dry Packing

gosh I know this is an old thread but...this sounds too good to pass up~! Are you saying that people are using the atty fibers out of Greencig cartomizers to repair regular atomizers? Just want to make sure I understand. Thanks!

 

[Kelemvor]

jup, some.. some more repair their G120 with the glas fibre. and some made their own housing for a screwable coil and the fibre. cigar size similar to G120.

the biggest problem is to find a supplier for a good working wick thats not coated with any nasty stuff to make the fibres more flexible.

but if you just want to tune up an old 510 and have old g120 fibres... use them



btw ...
one supplier builds these ( Cigar Atomizers )also for his bulli G120 mod device. he uses a little bit different wick, but its doing the task fine, too


some people without fear of bigger devices may take a look: bulli smoker atomizer - Fa.Bismillah

it fits his mods for the G120 ( VR4 ) and is delivered with 1m coil and 1m glasfibres,
so that you can replace wick and coil yourself.


YouTube - Bulli-Smoker A1

 

[Col. Gaunt]

Ya learn something new every day!

Thanks!

 

[lorikay13]

Great tips! Thank you