510 arrived - I'm afraid - will it eat me?

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So, my 510 just arrived, along with a usb pass through. I plugged the pass-through in, clicked the cartridge in the atomizer and screwed the atomizer to the pass-through. When I press the switch I hear the sound of it heating up. The manual says, press the button no longer than 5 seconds or it will explode and destroy the universe. So I'm cautious. After 2-3 seconds I inhale. But there comes nothing. Or I feel nothing and taste nothing. And I exhale nothing visible. So I get a little more audacious. I inhale after 2-3 seconds of heating and keep it pressed for 2-3 more seconds while inhaling. I think I felt something this time. It tasted a little bit like rubber but not too bad, not intense, very light, hardly notable. Maybe I was just hallucinating. I felt no heat, but something a little thicker than air. But I exhaled nothing visible. I think I feel the nicotine from it, though, a little bit. Or maybe not. I'm not sure. I'm a little bit afraid that I'll suck in juice when I inhale too hard or that the universe will be destroyed when I do something wrong.
So please tell me:
1. How long should I press the button before inhaling?
2. How long should I inhale?
3. How long should I press the button while inhaling?
4. Does it make sense to still inhale after I release the button?
5. How hard should I suck on it? Like a cigarette? Little harder? Little less?
6. Will it eat me when it is angry?
7. How to placate it when it is angry?
 

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So please tell me:
1. How long should I press the button before inhaling?
2. How long should I inhale?
3. How long should I press the button while inhaling?
4. Does it make sense to still inhale after I release the button?
5. How hard should I suck on it? Like a cigarette? Little harder? Little less?
6. Will it eat me when it is angry?
7. How to placate it when it is angry?

1. Press it for a millisecond and then start inhaling. Don't inhale longer than 5 seconds.
2. 5 seconds.
3. 5.001 seconds
4. You can, the coil is still hot and vapor can still be withdrawn.
5. A little harder, not much harder--especially if you got the awesome whistle tips (soooo smooth and easy to draw on)
6. Yes. 510s are known to eat their masters and vaporize them for a good human juice.
7. Get undressed, do the moonwalk, and serenade it with wine for a good evening. Don't get it knocked up. A pregnant 510 is a very angry 510. But you will have baby 510s to vape on. :w00t:

:thumbs:
 
Hoh, yay, now it works, with both the pass-through and the battery. I need to suck a little harder. Was just too afraid. Still I don't get much vapour because I don't know the limit of how hard I can suck. Probably I wll adjust myself to it by the time. Tastes okay. Doesn't burn my throat. But I feel something. Does not hurt like a cigarette. Quite subtle. But I feel the hit of nicotine in my head. It's rather strong. But something's missing. Maybe all the dirt of burnt tobacco, although I'm quite happy that it feels so clean. Hmm... Makes me want to smoke. No wait, makes me want to vape. Tastes actually quite nice. Yay. Hmm... now it really tastes like rubber, I think... Hmm...
@frankie1: No, I didn't.
 
It may take a day or 2 to let the atty settle in, then everything should be ok.

You mean the taste should be okay? Or the vapour should be okay?

It still tastes a little like rubber. And I get really hardly any visible vapour. But I feel the nicotine, makes me dizzy. Makes me wanna smoke because something is missing. But when I light a cigarette, it only feels dirty in my throat and makes me more dizzy. But it makes visible smoke. That's what I'm used to. Strange... Wouldn't have thought that the visibility of smoke would be so important for my mind. But maybe it isn't. I'm tripping on shrooms and my judgement and perception might be flawed.
 

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Hello Perkele,
Something is wrong if you are not getting a strong throat hit and producing a substantial amount of vapor.
If you are using the USB passthrough, make sure it has been plugged into your USB port for around 20min before starting to use it, so the charge can build up in the battery.
If it does not produce a lot of vapor at that point, try another atomizer. Make sure you drip 1 or two drops of liquid onto the atomizer before you start using it.
The "rubber" smell you are tasting, might be the wick which is too dry. If you continue to get that smell, you are damaging the wick. The wick is a fibrous material that will wear out over time, but the dryer it is, the quicker it will wear out. You can also damage the wick by over saturating it with liquid, so you have to find a happy medium. It's not very difficult after you get used to them. When the vapor starts to die down, just drip two drops onto the atty, or into your cart.
You will need to buy some more atomizers for backup. The 510 atomizers are the Achilles Heal of 510s. They are not manufactured well, and tend to die after a few weeks, or worse, not work well right from the beginning.

best,
Gary
 

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Dry atomizers, flooded atomizers, and wicking
Basically, you want to keep your atomizer happy with plenty of juice, but not too much as to flood it.

A good sign that it's flooded is that it gets a little harder to draw on and you get little or no vapor.
Flooding it, however, won't hurt it at all, and you can just blow out the extra juice.

Letting it get too dry, on the other hand, is not good for the atomizer supposedly.
But regardless of whether it is bad for the atomizer or not, you still don't want to do it.

You can tell it is too dry when it starts to taste like crap.
A nasty sort of metallic burning taste.

One reason it might get too dry is if you burn through the juice faster than it can wick up more.
That is why people experiment with different kinds of filler materials to use in their cartridges.

If you take only a drag or two every now and then, you should be fine.
But if you use these like a cigarette, the wicking process will have trouble keeping up.
There are ways to deal with this, and people have different methods that work better for them.

And of course, when the cartridge is running low on juice, it needs topping off for this reason.
 
Thanks for all the replies. Don't know what I've been doing wrong.
I haven't smoked a cigarette today so far. It has never been so easy to convince myself to not smoke. Not with nicotine chewing gum, not with snus, not with zyban. That's really cool. Now I can smell the "strange taste" that I was tasting while vaping also when I'm not vaping. That's how the juice smells. A little bit sweet and a little bit plastic-like and "chemical". I have a bottle of unaromatized PG liquid which smells the same. Not really delicious, but not actually annoying either.
Now I just lit up a cigarette. Never thought it would taste so awful. Put it out half-way through.
This morning I didn't get much vapor after the first puff. Then I dripped some juice in the cartridge, tried again and didn't get any vapor. Then I did the moonwalk but it didn't help either. Then I blew through the atomizer and everything was fine. But I don't really have a confident feeling about learning and getting a feeling and routine for how everything works. When I get no or not much vapor I don't know if I should drip on the cartridge or on the atomizer or if I should blow through the atomizer or what is wrong and how to tell. And I don't know when it is time to change a cartridge or whatever. It seems all so complicated and I'm such a lazy person. But I really like it. So I think I'll just have to learn it.
I cannot vape outside yet, because I haven't charged the batteries :((
And I need more stuff, I need this charger transport case thing. And more atomizers and lots of juice and... can I just stretch the liquid with that propylenglycol, for example to thin out a 36 mg bottle? And where do I get propylenglycol?
 

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Can I just stretch the liquid with that propylenglycol, for example to thin out a 36 mg bottle?
Yes, you can, but you'll reduce the flavor as well.

I use lower nicotine juice to thin out higher nicotine juice.
You can use the same flavor, or even different flavors.

For instance, right now I am smoking a mixture of...
1) Johnson Creek Tennessee Cured (5.5mg) (50% 11mg/50% 0mg)
2) MyFreedomSmokes Apricot (6mg)
3) MyFreedomSmokes Bavarian Creme (6mg)
4) Ecopure Mild (11mg) for extra vapor


I put too much apricot flavor in though.
:D
 

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I found my passthru to be touchy and I need to hold the button take a milisecond primer puff, than the big inhale. Thats how it works best, but still not my favorite thing. I am waiting on one from puresmoker that is supposed to be the bomb, but these cheapo depot ones from china are just not cutting it for me, the batteries when you charge them work way better, so plug em in and vape away.
 

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And sometimes attys take a few hours of heavy vaping to a day of med to light vaping to break in. I vape almost constantly (the same way I smoked) and it is a good few hours before I get good vapor. Vaping does seem to get used to and it is a fiddly habit, but it is so worth it. Also, adding a little glycerin can add to vapor production. Good luck and welcome to the vaping family.
 
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