And, 901 carts are a vast improvement on a 510/eGo over the 510 carts(just found this out today). Might want to order some 901 carts.
510 Mega Battery vs Ego/ 510 vs Ego??
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eGo all the way! The better battery life is obviously great, but that little cone is a miracle of modern vaping goodness too. It stiffens up the draw a bit (which I find really nice) and makes the vapor a bit warmer, which seems to bring out the flavor. my 2¢ anyways...
For some reason I got the impression that the eGo was supposed to be a higher-voltage battery than the other 510 batteries. Isn't this the case?
Also, has anyone had a chance to try the eGo with one of those special atties that are just as thick as the eGo and don't need a cone in order to form a continuous outer surface? I think that combination looks very very cool, it's like a little cigar, especially with that silver band around its middle.
Also, has anyone had a chance to try the eGo with one of those special atties that are just as thick as the eGo and don't need a cone in order to form a continuous outer surface? I think that combination looks very very cool, it's like a little cigar, especially with that silver band around its middle.
For some reason I got the impression that the eGo was supposed to be a higher-voltage battery than the other 510 batteries. Isn't this the case?
Also, has anyone had a chance to try the eGo with one of those special atties that are just as thick as the eGo and don't need a cone in order to form a continuous outer surface? I think that combination looks very very cool, it's like a little cigar, especially with that silver band around its middle.
The eGo is a ture 3.7 volt, while the 510 is only 3.2 volts. I have a couple of Mega eGo cartos, and I would like to get the Mega atty/carts as well. I agree looks much better, but more importantly holds more than twice fluid of the 510 carts/cartos.
I enjoy using my 510's and mega 510's because they inexpensive and I now have a collection of them in different colors to signify different flavors - platinum for menthols, copper for TV Atomic C, blue for fruit flavors, red for tobacco flavors, black for coffee and since I have more of them than all the other colors, as temporaries from time to time while colors are charging.
I find that letting the cart/atty and/or cartos "rest" for a bit by having several going at one time makes for consistent excellent vapor and TH because the atty is well supplied with juice and it has a chance to cool down a bit.
I have a 5volt that will go for days and a juice box mod that will also go for days AND they still need to be paused every now and for the cart/atty or cartomizer to cool down a bit.
It doesn't bother me at all to have to charge the 510's frequently as I have a 5-stop charger next to my desk at home and I just cycle them all day/evening as needed. When I go to the studio, I take a couple extra batts and they last me from 11 to 5 easily because I'm busy doing other things beside ECF and vaping exclusively.
I've been tempted to get an Ego batt for the extended time and that is only because I like having new toys, not because I NEED one.
I find that letting the cart/atty and/or cartos "rest" for a bit by having several going at one time makes for consistent excellent vapor and TH because the atty is well supplied with juice and it has a chance to cool down a bit.
I have a 5volt that will go for days and a juice box mod that will also go for days AND they still need to be paused every now and for the cart/atty or cartomizer to cool down a bit.
It doesn't bother me at all to have to charge the 510's frequently as I have a 5-stop charger next to my desk at home and I just cycle them all day/evening as needed. When I go to the studio, I take a couple extra batts and they last me from 11 to 5 easily because I'm busy doing other things beside ECF and vaping exclusively.
I've been tempted to get an Ego batt for the extended time and that is only because I like having new toys, not because I NEED one.
According to Scottbee the eGo has the same internal circuitry as the 510 and puts out the same voltage.
See the thread below for his complete test results on various batteries...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/joye-510/65055-battery-voltages-surprise.html
No, it isn't higher voltage, but it supplies more (mAh) current.
Really, it isn't about voltage so much as it is about power.
And power = current x voltage.
Higher voltage gives more power, but so does more current.
So the eGo provides more power because it supplies more current.
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Just checked my auto 510 w/ a multimeter and Scottbee is correct. My mistake, I was going by information that I had heard from many people here.
Thanks for all the details. I just have to point out that this last bit is mistaken: mA*h (miliamperes multiplied by hours) is a measure of electric charge (a.k.a. battery capacity), not current. A capacity of 650 mAh means that if you power a circuit that works at 650 mA, it will drain your battery in 1 hour. But it also means that you can power a circuit that drains 325 mA for 2 hours etc. It doesn't say anything at all about how much current your consumer circuit is going to "suck", it just says how much charge is available.
Current = Voltage / Resistance
You can't increase the current without either increasing the voltage or lowering the resistance, and since the voltage is a predetermined characteristic of the battery, it seems that only a Low Resistance (LR) atty can get you to a higher current.
I was hoping I could avoid LRs since I find that even normal 510 atties get hot a little too quickly for my taste (after 2 full inhalations) and take too long to cool back down. It's probably only going to work for me if I use 2 atties at a time and just keep switching them around, drawing on one while the other cools.
Thank you for the correction.Thanks for all the details. I just have to point out that this last bit is mistaken: mA*h (miliamperes multiplied by hours) is a measure of electric charge (a.k.a. battery capacity), not current. A capacity of 650 mAh means that if you power a circuit that works at 650 mA, it will drain your battery in 1 hour. But it also means that you can power a circuit that drains 325 mA for 2 hours etc. It doesn't say anything at all about how much current your consumer circuit is going to "suck", it just says how much charge is available.
Current = Voltage / Resistance
You can't increase the current without either increasing the voltage or lowering the resistance, and since the voltage is a predetermined characteristic of the battery, it seems that only a Low Resistance (LR) atty can get you to a higher current.
I was hoping I could avoid LRs since I find that even normal 510 atties get hot a little too quickly for my taste (after 2 full inhalations) and take too long to cool back down. It's probably only going to work for me if I use 2 atties at a time and just keep switching them around, drawing on one while the other cools.
I hate to run around blabbering things that are just flat out wrong.
I spend some time reading some of the other subforums and try to bring that information back here to the masses who don't venture there. Those super techie guys don't get out much.
I thought one of the folks there was saying the larger batteries provide more current, but I think I must have misunderstood, so that still leaves me wondering why the bigger batteries provide more vapor even when they have the same voltage as the stock batteries.
If I'm not mistaken, the bigger batteries will provide the maximum voltage for longer than the smaller batteries before starting to drop, and I have seen that used as the explanation for more vapor and better hits, but it still doesn't make sense to me.
As far as I can tell, I get a lot more vapor from my 18650 battery (2400mAh) then I have ever or will ever get from my stock 510 battery (180mAh) even when it is fresh off the charger.
My experience is shared by many, but I'm not sure I've got the right explanation for it yet.
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I have two hypotheses for now:
1. The guy who measured and compared all those voltages just happened to have a bad eGo. In this case "good" eGos might really have higher voltage.
2. Reports from people using the eGo battery with normal atties are mixed with those from people using it with LR atties and the general impression that the eGo battery itself is responsible for the higher vapor production is actually mistaken.
Isn't it really odd that no one picked up on magz's real problem?
Dragon died, no PV.
510 not doing it now,
going with an ego kit.
You don't got enough e-cig spare parts.
Anybody else out there that would be in a pickle if their e-cig died tonight?
Cough up a few dollars for spares. You're saving money vaping, spend just a little to get ahead. Don't be the one that has to post "my only e-cig isn't working, I'm going back to analogs"
Posted in fun,
Rocky
Dragon died, no PV.
510 not doing it now,
going with an ego kit.
You don't got enough e-cig spare parts.
Anybody else out there that would be in a pickle if their e-cig died tonight?
Cough up a few dollars for spares. You're saving money vaping, spend just a little to get ahead. Don't be the one that has to post "my only e-cig isn't working, I'm going back to analogs"
Posted in fun,
Rocky
Well, I went ahead and placed my order for my new Ego with Puresmokers, yea! I can't wait to get my kit. I have a feeling I'm going to wish I just would have went with the ego to begin with (especially since I was sitting there debating between the two of them for a long minute before ordering my 510), but I'd just read more about the 510 at the time and couldn't figure out the difference. I had to order SOMETHING quick, because I'd started vaping with a Red Dragon that crapped out and got sent back, and at that point I'd fallen in love with vaping and had no pv! and it was back to analogs till I got something. Yuck! Anyway, can't wait to get my kit, and I'm so excited to try out the LR atty!
Man, there's so much to learn about all this, and not enough time in the day to learn it, lol. Seriously, somebody should really teach an class, lol. I want to learn everything and try it all
Welcome to the forum
Wait until you want to buy every type e-ciggie and all the mods, that's when the fun begins..
When I decided I wanted to venture into all of this, I sat on the forum for 3 months before I bought my first one..
There are alot of videos that are lessons on all this stuff and afew PDF's to D/L
Find them on the forum somewhere.. Just search for them..
Have Fun!!
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It should make at least partial sense, because that's how batteries work.
(/forum/battery-issues/8852-li-ion-batteries-truth.html#post137263)
I'm just not sure the maximum voltage could last that much longer with a bigger battery - the voltage should still be around its nominal value for most of the chargespan of a good quality battery. I think the comparison should be made between batteries that are half discharged, not full. Then we could tell for sure whether the eGo really gives more vapor consistently.
Just a kind of summary if it might help...
510 - 180 mah
510 mega - 280 mah
eGo - 650 mah
Riva (fully compatible) - 750 mah
Hello 016 - 1300 mah
mah is about the amount of energy the battery will store, not about the voltage of the battery at all. The higher the mah, the longer the battery can deliver whatever voltage it is set to deliver.
So, as a rule of thumb, if you double the mah, you double the time the battery can be in use.
A 18650 battery is true 3.7 volt. All of the others mentioned are actually about 3.2 volt. The higher the voltage, the more vapor you will get. The higher the mah, the longer the battery run time before a recharge.
And yes, maximum voltage is related to the storage capacity. Voltage does drop off before the battery is out of energy.
510 - 180 mah
510 mega - 280 mah
eGo - 650 mah
Riva (fully compatible) - 750 mah
Hello 016 - 1300 mah
mah is about the amount of energy the battery will store, not about the voltage of the battery at all. The higher the mah, the longer the battery can deliver whatever voltage it is set to deliver.
So, as a rule of thumb, if you double the mah, you double the time the battery can be in use.
A 18650 battery is true 3.7 volt. All of the others mentioned are actually about 3.2 volt. The higher the voltage, the more vapor you will get. The higher the mah, the longer the battery run time before a recharge.
And yes, maximum voltage is related to the storage capacity. Voltage does drop off before the battery is out of energy.
Good discription Buzzy... thanks for that. That's the best description I've seen.
I have the TRex / Ego with a 4.2v and 650mah. I'm finding a large range in the amount of vape time from one charge to the next. I've been timing to try and figure it out, but I do know that now that I've switched a regular cartridge to Blue Plug I'm getting much better wicking and vapor... not to mention longer battery time. I haven't even put my cartos back on since switching.
When vacaton is over I'll use the cartos, but I may keep the regular cartriges on my passthrough.
I have the TRex / Ego with a 4.2v and 650mah. I'm finding a large range in the amount of vape time from one charge to the next. I've been timing to try and figure it out, but I do know that now that I've switched a regular cartridge to Blue Plug I'm getting much better wicking and vapor... not to mention longer battery time. I haven't even put my cartos back on since switching.
When vacaton is over I'll use the cartos, but I may keep the regular cartriges on my passthrough.
I am not a heavy vapor and I am already tired of my new 510. within two weeks a dead atomizer and the battery I am lucky if I get an hour. My supplier swears it is an genuine joye.
Just FYI, My 510 batts don't even last an hour. That is fairly normal for me(REALLY heavy vaper). My eGo batts last between 2-5 hours, usually on the lower end of that. The 510 may just not be enough for you, or you may want to increase your nic content so you vape less. Just a suggestion.
here's one will a 510 charger charge an ego battery? If so, she doesn't need an ego kit just an ego battery. Also has anyone done a pipe style for the 510? I am finding that the cigarette shape does nothing for me and the whole thing is badly weighted in my hand. The box mods all look weird though
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