You can use them with any 510 batt connection - so the earlier joye auto batts - small ones could be used. Or manual of course.
My experience with it has been flawless - this is the 510 answer to Bloog Maxxfusion which, while nice, they still have the filler in the carto. The taste isn't nearly as evident in the bloog and they've lowered the probabilty of burning the filler with the current set up, but the possibility is still there. Not so with the tanks.
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