510 vs KR808d1/Vapor King/Nebula
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The 510. The KR carts burn up, *before* you're aware of the 'funky taste,' and their QC is just too lacking (partially filled) to deal with, which is too bad, as it's a great idea, but pre-filling pre-filled carts, and always being paranoid about the first second it starts to burn up inside...not for me.
so...i chose the KR over the 510 based on 2 things. The battery life on the KR808D-1 is fantastic , beats the 510 hands down. That and ( i know i sound like a broken record on this one ) but the 510 atomizer gets way to hot for me , uncomfortably hot. after 5 drags i have to put it down for at least 5 min for it to cool back down.
For now. It will likely become more lopsided. I found out that the secret to good vaping -- really good satisfying no longer want an analog vaping -- is the nicotine density. Many here that feel the need to crank 5-10 hard vapes a minute aren't satisfied. Many here that feel the need to blow mountains of vapor aren't satisfied. So what are they doing wrong? They are vaping a nicotine content that is too low for their system. Their bodies want more nic - not more vape. Vaping is fun, but don't confuse that with getting your nicotine habit completely taken care of. That is what this is all about. An alternative to analogs. If you aren't getting it, then you won't. If you are vaping an 18mg VK like a freight train, you likely aren't satisfying your cravings. If you are moderately vaping a 510 with 36mg juice, your atty will thank you, your pocketbook will thank you, and MORE IMPORTANTLY, your body will thank you.
Just MHO.
true. but 36mg kr808d-1 carts are available as well. my 24mg mint carts are doing the job.
just a side note. Sober vaping is a reasonable substitute for analogs. Drunk vaping is very nearly as satisfying. Anyone else notice this? It surprised me at first.
just a side note. Sober vaping is a reasonable substitute for analogs. Drunk vaping is very nearly as satisfying. Anyone else notice this? It surprised me at first.
I chose the 808 tentatively. Only because Im waiting to see if the 808 batteries die due to juice gumming them up like all other batteries except the 510 do.
So far what impresses me most with the 808 is the fact that im not worried about maintaining an atomizer. When it dies it is ok because they are supposed to die.
With my 510 I am always worrying about my atomizer life span, and also worrying about it going weak. With the 808 it goes weak after a few days but thats ok because they are dirt cheap.
So far what impresses me most with the 808 is the fact that im not worried about maintaining an atomizer. When it dies it is ok because they are supposed to die.
With my 510 I am always worrying about my atomizer life span, and also worrying about it going weak. With the 808 it goes weak after a few days but thats ok because they are dirt cheap.
How many do you go through a day? A disposable is a disposable. This may be a disposable society, but sometimes it's not realistic to maintain. Most vapers will realize this fact. Hence the disparity in your poll.
probably 1.5 to 2 is realistic, but I just got 40 from cigeasy.com. Prior to that I rotated between 2 for 2 weeks dripping 16mg janty juice. One died about 3 days ago. The amount of juice you can put in slows down after a couple refills so I had to put in 10 drops or so about twice a day compared to 20 drops or so once a day at first. So I figure I could probably make my 40 new cartomizers for $85 bucks last a year refilling. Realistically though, I'll probably vacillate between using fresh carts and refilling. But I'll hang onto all the working carts. It's nice to have an unlimited atomizer supply. If the new mint cartomizers wern't so tasty, I'd probably stick to refilling every cart until it died. I haven't found a juice that matches it, although I'd like to.
My dura-c works pretty well, I just get tired of refilling every hour or so and switching batteries all the time. It does look pretty slick though.
My dura-c works pretty well, I just get tired of refilling every hour or so and switching batteries all the time. It does look pretty slick though.
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I like to restuff my carts every two or three days because the stuffing gets stale/rank. How do you restuff the VK carts?
I love my KR808 for the taste, vapor and convenience. So far nothing else comes close. Drew has the carts at his nhaler store for 8 bucks a 5 pack and great service.
The problem is that well before they taste burnt, the wick and filler ARE melted and burned. I don't want to smoke that!
See this thread, if you haven't already.
I'm looking forward to getting some of Drew's Green Tech cartomizers, which have had very promising reviews - they don't appear to burn and work with KR808 batteries.
The problem is that well before they taste burnt, the wick and filler ARE melted and burned. I don't want to smoke that!
See this thread, if you haven't already.
I'm looking forward to getting some of Drew's Green Tech cartomizers, which have had very promising reviews - they don't appear to burn and work with KR808 batteries.
i think wot you call npro (super cigarette rn4081) is the over all better on, price, cartridges, battery life and atomizer life and is good all round, and the shop in eastbourne that i got my one from is very good, any probs just go in or call them and they sort it out!!!
I have not attempted to restuff a cart.
I have a VK, and I have found that washing them help a lot.
I take a bent wire that I made out of some scrap.
Insert it on the mouthpiece end of the cart.
Pull out the hard plastic mouth piece, and the rubber insert.
Then you run hot water through it for about 30 seconds or so. Basically until the stuffing looks nice and clean.
I then use an air compress, set to 5 PSI, and blow all of the water out.
CAUTION: Make sure it is compressed air. DO NOT USE a can of 'dry' air, computer cleaner, etc.
Most of those are NOT air, they are various chemicals that are rather bad for you!
So read those labels before you use any of those.
After that just refill it, put the inserts back, and you are GTG.
Wow I never thought about washing them. I use mine as a back up or when I want something different. I try to keep them topped off with 4-5 drops in the battery end after a bit of vaping.
When i clean my cartomizer' I cut off the end of the rubber boot that covers the cartomizer, attach to a turkey baster, fill hot water in a cup attach the other end to the mouth piece and suck the hot water through 3 times. than reverse the cartomizer and using the turkey baster blow out the cartomizer several times than top it off with 1/2 mil of liquid in the mouth piece side than 1/4 mil from the batt side let set for 15 sec lightly blow excess out you are ready to vape. at first few puffs will dry out the coil. I have cartomizers that I have reused for over 1 month. and I also use 510 carts with my kr808d1.
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