510 vs smokeing everywhere

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danielwd

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gooneyO, I really dont plan on smoking c-cigarettes. I am just curious, and may smoke them when I drink beer. For some reason the two seen to go well together for me.

I still cannot see how smoking the no nicotine cartridges could be bad for you unless there is some bad chemial in them. The vapor is supposed to be water vapor so isn't this comparable to inhaling vapor froma vaporizer or something?
 

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I still cannot see how smoking the no nicotine cartridges could be bad for you unless there is some bad chemial in them. The vapor is supposed to be water vapor so isn't this comparable to inhaling vapor froma vaporizer or something?

No it isn't water vapor. The liquid in the e-cigarette cartridge is usually a pharmaceutical grade Propylene Glycol or a vegetable gylcol or some combination of the two. There has not been sufficient research on the subject (in many people's opinion) to determine whether inhaling this substance directly into your lungs is harmful or not or to what degree.

Also, from your other posts, many people believe the only way to get a "throat hit" from an e-cig is to use an e-cig product that has nicotine in it. The more nicotine it has, the greater the throat hit.

The liquid that leaks through is the liquid that is being vaporized. I find the SE e-cig sometimes leaks through when the cartridge is brand new. I usually aim the e-cig down to help prevent this for the first couple times I use it with a new cartridge.
 

abombaci

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I ordered the Smoking Everywhere free trial and the very next day hadn't realized that I didn't see the terms & conditions because they were dull and greyed out at the bottom of the webpage, well I cancelled the trial offer on the phone the day after and they cancelled it. They told me I'm getting my $9.95 back and said, "OK if you order the kit right now we'll give it to you for $49.99 plus $9.95 shipping & handling. So when they told me that I ordered it and bought is straight out and my free trial wasn't cancelled the day after I submitted the order. Their sending my $9.95 back to my account becuase since I cancelled the very next day it didn't even ship. So then I get the kit in the mail after about 2-3 weeks that they gave me for half price (would be full price for any other brand) and guess what? No smoke whatsoever. I charged the battery, the light turned green telling me it was fully charged, I tried all 5 cartridges and only got like one week exhale amount of smoke. Then after that no smoke whatsoever. Now I'm returning my kit and from what I understand they have a no return policy but do have a 1 year warranty but after reading some reviews this no smoke at tall problem has happened to other people that I read reviews on. This cig is rendered useless. So now I called up and told them I'm going to send it back because I'm getting absolutely no smoke at all out of the thing and something tells me from reading other reviews from people that had this same no toke no smoke problem that all their kits are going to be like this. I'm now interested in ordering the Joye 510 (which is also referred to as the Titan) hear great things about massive vape on this little monster. Smoking Everywhere will send a replacement but knowing from other reviews, I think all their kits are flawed with no smoke, so I wan't my money back even though they have a no refund policy, so what I'm going to do is send them back the kit and go down to my bank & try to do a chargeback so I can get my money back for this useless thing and see if that works. No smoke! Nothing with this cig!
 

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Soooo, it's primarily the 510 atomizers that are the bees knees then? Are the 18650 batteries from the same company (Joye)?



I've only used the 510 atomizers, and they're great. Lots of vapor, good throat hit. 18650s are a type of lithium ion battery which you can buy pretty much anywhere; 18650 is just the diameter (18mm) and height (65mm). The ones I use are 2400mAh and 3000mAh; the stock Joye batteries are 180mAh, so you can just imagine the difference :)
 
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......... So then I get the kit in the mail after about 2-3 weeks that they gave me for half price (would be full price for any other brand) and guess what? No smoke whatsoever. I charged the battery, the light turned green telling me it was fully charged, I tried all 5 cartridges and only got like one week exhale amount of smoke. Then after that no smoke whatsoever. Now I'm returning my kit and from what I understand they have a no return policy but do have a 1 year warranty but after reading some reviews this no smoke at tall problem has happened to other people that I read reviews on. This cig is rendered useless. So now I called up and told them I'm going to send it back because I'm getting absolutely no smoke at all out of the thing and something tells me from reading other reviews from people that had this same no toke no smoke problem that all their kits are going to be like this. ....... Smoking Everywhere will send a replacement but knowing from other reviews, I think all their kits are flawed with no smoke, so I wan't my money back even though they have a no refund policy, so what I'm going to do is send them back the kit and go down to my bank & try to do a chargeback so I can get my money back for this useless thing and see if that works. No smoke! Nothing with this cig!

Wow that sucks that you got a bad one. Mine worked pretty well from SE. I got decent vapor on all 5 cartridges they sent me. You must have got a bad atomizer or something. I found that the vapor dropped off pretty quickly with their cartridges, but the first 30 or so drags were always really good. That's a bummer, hope you can get your money back!
 

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Well I posted a couple pages back that I cancelled right away & they still charged me the 9.95.. This was a month ago.. Now I am really peeved cause I just got an email from them this morning that my order was paid & shipped out.. I already talked to them 2 times about this order that was cancelled right away.. Just gave them a piece of my mind this morning:evil:... Was mad!!:shock: This is bad business!!
 

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I've been vaping my 510 for just about 2 weeks now, and I love it, love it, love it. The vapor production is fantastic, the flavor is great, and it's just really convenient. Not to mention, I got the starter kit for $40 from cignot.com (love these girls!). :)

Yesterday, I decided to hit up the mall kiosk and try out the Smoking Everywhere kit. $90 for the same thing I got from cignot. The taste is disgusting, the vapor production is weak, you have to take a really hard draw to get it to work, and the reservoir in the cartridge is so small I'd killed 3 carts in 5 hours. :mad: I'm hoping I can return it and get my money back, either that or I'll sell it on ebay or craigslist.

The moral of the story is, GET THE JOYE 510! :D
 

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abombaci

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Smoking Everywhere your blowing out invisible smoke! In other words a make believe toy! I probably won't get my money back either. Their going to end up sending me another one. Guess I'll use it as an ornament to hang up on my Christmas tree. I'm so dissapointed with these people and their product. It's useless to say the least. In the mean time I went over to the great girls at Cignot and got a great deal on a deluxe Joye 510 starter kit withe PCC (Personal Charge Case) 2 batteries, 2 atomizers, charger, and they even threw in 2 5ML bottles of liquid all for the price of just $65 No one can beat their great prices, and that's $65 buck with free shipping. No place I've seen can outdo their great deals. There's another place that charging $79.00 for this same kit and it only includes 1 battery.
 

darkenedones

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I've only used the 510 atomizers, and they're great. Lots of vapor, good throat hit. 18650s are a type of lithium ion battery which you can buy pretty much anywhere; 18650 is just the diameter (18mm) and height (65mm). The ones I use are 2400mAh and 3000mAh; the stock Joye batteries are 180mAh, so you can just imagine the difference :)

Where have you found those batteries and are they auto or manual? We love our 510's just seem to go through batteries too fast.
 

ajmunited

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This is only my second post. My friend introduced me to Vaping and I love it. Now, she has the "Smoking Everywhere" e-cig. I would never recomend them to anyone. The cost could be more than smoking analogs. I had to help her order more carts. That was a joke. First, her box didn't have any marking on it to tell us what to order. So we called, and they didn't ask us for anything except how much she paid for it. She paid $150 and so we were told to order the "Gold" carts. We did. They came. 5 days, not bad from FL to AZ. THEY WERE THE WRONG ONES. I guess that shouldn't have been a surprise based on the way they assumed what kind she had. So I call them and they say "since you already have those carts why don't you just go ahead and buy the GOLD starter kit from us?" HELLO, I didn't make the mistake. Did they just to try to sell me more stuff because of their mistake? Only after I got really mad did they say that they would fix it. HELLO, is that how you treat your customers? I will end in this, Before you buy from any company check to see how much replacement parts are. I am not that rich. Just for 5 carts from "Smoking Everywhere" it is $9.95 PLUS $10 to ship it. Isn't that about the same as analogs (or is it more?) and I can pick those up anywhere. LOL!!! Sorry for the rant. I have heard some stories in my day but dang. Hope this helps.
P.S. I do understand that they are the ones fighting the FDA, but you don't have to rob your customers. Or whatever game they are playing.
 

Cordey

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So to preface, I am totally new to this e-cig thing. After reading many of the forum posts on here I just made my first purchase this morning. I ordered the Joye 510 manual (I also ordered a auto as well in case I do not like the manual). I got mine from lite cig usa . com. Shawn was incredibly helpful to ensure I got all I needed for my first purchase. The kit comes with 2 atomizers, 2 batteries and a charger along with 5 empty carts. For the price it was a great deal. I should have it early next week and I am excited to try it. I will post again once I try it.

The reason I am posting is I went to the mall kiosk (smokeingeverywhere) and spoke with someone there. Once I saw the prices and the starter kits I was almost convinced it way way out of my price range. I realized I would have to quite smoking for almost a month to afford everything they said I needed etc. I was so turned off of the products that when my brother in law ordered the DSE 901 (not from se) I thought he had made a bad purchase and another waste of money. I must say when he got it in and I tried it I was hooked.

I would not recommend smoking everywhere to anyone as they appear to me to be a rip off. I saw numerous people in the store trying to return items but getting the run around and other sales people getting people to make $300+ purchases. I can say I spent right over $100 with liquid and kit and I hope to be really pleased.

Thanks again to everyone who has posted reviews as it really helps the first time buyer.
 

IANAN

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This is only my second post. My friend introduced me to Vaping and I love it. Now, she has the "Smoking Everywhere" e-cig. I would never recomend them to anyone. The cost could be more than smoking analogs. I had to help her order more carts. That was a joke. First, her box didn't have any marking on it to tell us what to order. So we called, and they didn't ask us for anything except how much she paid for it. She paid $150 and so we were told to order the "Gold" carts. We did. They came. 5 days, not bad from FL to AZ. THEY WERE THE WRONG ONES. I guess that shouldn't have been a surprise based on the way they assumed what kind she had. So I call them and they say "since you already have those carts why don't you just go ahead and buy the GOLD starter kit from us?" HELLO, I didn't make the mistake. Did they just to try to sell me more stuff because of their mistake? Only after I got really mad did they say that they would fix it. HELLO, is that how you treat your customers? I will end in this, Before you buy from any company check to see how much replacement parts are. I am not that rich. Just for 5 carts from "Smoking Everywhere" it is $9.95 PLUS $10 to ship it. Isn't that about the same as analogs (or is it more?) and I can pick those up anywhere. LOL!!! Sorry for the rant. I have heard some stories in my day but dang. Hope this helps.
P.S. I do understand that they are the ones fighting the FDA, but you don't have to rob your customers. Or whatever game they are playing.

SE is kinda of a rip off... I personally ordered one of their Platinuim kits- got a shipping confirmation and then later was contacted by phone, 3 days after getting an email saying my order had shipped with a tracking number, that they were backordered on the the Platinium kits and nothing had shipped at all and they were sending me a gold kit. It took about 2.5 weeks finally for the kit to arrive and in that time realized that Pilot gas stations were selling NJoy kits for $50....

The kit itself was lacking in the quality of their product, not their packaging- they have probably the best looking packaging I have ever seen of any product- Not kidding, was sub par. Their kit contains 1 battery, 1 atomizer, 1 charger, and 5 carts... The bat and atomizer more or less are a RN 4081 (Just like the NJoy)... except their battery is few mm shorter and doesn't work as well as other RN 4081s. Their battery has terrible life and the auto cut off is very hair trigger- it doesn't take much to trigger it. Unlike other RN 4081s where you would need to occasionally cover both atomizer holes on the bat and draw lightly to unjam it once in a while- you find yourself continuously doing it with their product. You either have to draw very hard or cover one of the holes to even activate their battery- other RN 4081/DE 103s you do this to get a lot of smoke.

By contrast other RN 4081 kits tend to come with 2 bats, charger, 1 atomizer, and 5 cartridges....

With the RN 4081 and DSE 103 each full cartridge will pull about 60 mouthfuls .... Count how many puffs you take on a traditional cigarette multiply by 20 ... okay now 60 by how many draws you take.... Is it anywhere near one 1 pack of smokes (20 cigs)? (I doubt it unless you only take 6 drags off your regular smokes!)


Okay on the Smokes 51 topic- The Smokes51 is a branded E9 model... The E9 models are (interchangeable with each other); Greensmoke, Smoke51, Greenpuffer, RedDragon, Sensation, Cigana, and E-Cig (There may be more).... not all of them charge so much for carts..... That being said I would rather pay $2 per cart for a Smokes51 cart than $2 per cart for a SE cart... BTW E-Cigs sells blank fillable E-9 carts.
 

IANAN

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this no smoke at tall problem has happened to other people that I read reviews on. This cig is rendered useless. So now I called up and told them I'm going to send it back because I'm getting absolutely no smoke at all out of the thing and something tells me from reading other reviews from people that had this same no toke no smoke problem that all their kits are going to be like this. No smoke! Nothing with this cig!

Take your thumb and cover the bottom hole in the bat/atomizer ring.... that or put tape over one of the holes... and draw lightly for 3-4 seconds with the cig at a very slight downward angle at the tip with a fresh cart and bat that has charged at least 12 hours... if you still get nothing then its busted.

BTW- That is how you get optimal smoke (vapor) from all RN 4081s and DSE 103s-- Outside of dripping or mixing your own juice 50/50 with VG/PG fluid....
 

yabak

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I am new to the e-cigs but I bought the titan 510 from totallywicked (dot com). It has been working very well. I do get a lot of vapor. I spent $107.00 and got two manual batterys and two atomizers as well as pre-filled tobacco flavored cartridges (several) I also bought 30 ml of 18 mg marlboro flavor and 30 ml of 24 mg marlboro flavor as well as 10 ml of 18 mg menthol flavor (again total was $107, though i did purchase during their birthday special which gave me 30% off total price). The e-liquid flavor marlboro is not the greatest, i find myself mixing two parts marlboro flavor with 2-3 parts menthol to get a good analog type hit. But I am wanting to try some other flavors (ANY SUGGESTIONS?!?!) But as for anyone wanting to try it I recommed Totally Wicked (dot com). I really now want to try the new greencig as well, any suggestions?
 

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Hookaddict

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& days into vaping and love it hoping some friends will too. Got me a 510 pass through from totally wicked and abuse it like no other! I also got a generic joye 510 with a PCC from kingpin cigs in Jacksonville and love it. Had doubt about the whole PV thing before because i also got some batteries and stuff from Blucigs and they died on me 22 minutes into use with smoke coming out of the battery! and there usb charger was faulty so to me blu blows but i got the 510 equipment the next day after that experience and was pleased. At lease I can still use the atty's from the blu on the 510 everything else is going back to them.
 
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