7 words of wisdom for 510 owners

[Whistle_Pig]

Nice post!

There is one item you might want to add to #2. If gurgling continues after the fixes you mentioned, pop off the little cover at the mouthpiece end of the cart (yes, it comes off). There is another little reservoir for catching juice there that can be a hard-to-find source of the gurgles.

Really! Hmm.

I generally don't get gurgling. Typically, if I do, it's on the PTB carts, which I will be putting out of service, except for one that I stuffed myself instead of buying, which still might be as good as or better than aquarium filter media. (Is AFM a recognized acronym?) I'm still playing with stuffing, but so far I don't see any clear advantage to PTB.

FWIW, my total n00b advice for the 510 is that you'll avoid the gurgling and fluid-in-mouth syndrome by being careful not to overfill, and not drawing too hard when you vape.

I'm not a heavy vaper. I can fill 3 carts in the morning and be good all day at work. This might change once I'm totally off the pyros, but I kinda doubt it, since on a good day, I smoke only 3 or 4. (That should soon drop to zero, but damn if sometimes vaping doesn't scratch the itch.)

Good read. I'm glad I'm not your dog.

 

[bestthingever]

Hello, JamesMods, down there in Foley, Alabama ! I really liked your post, kinda cuts thru the crap, so to speak. (I'm a Buf Puf user also...no it's not perfect, but I just don't have the issues I had with some of the other cart mods)
Anyway, enjoyed this, and keep up the good work !

 

[The Big Chief]

In an effort to amuse the PV zen masters here with my follies, and possibly educate other young Padawan vapers on how to avoid getting a mouthful of juice and feeling like Jar Jar Binks, I offer these words of hard learned Joye 510 wisdom:

EXCELLENT QUOTE..especially about the loss of flavor..Ive been wondering about that myself. As far as The mods, been there, done that myself. With 510s Ive found one thing..regardless of wick or removed, if you simply keep your normal, or white fluval batting LIGHT..like half as much as you see packed in fresh cart light, it will flow well, and not flood.Left vertical, it will flow out, but not FLOOD. Just trim, fluff it, and reinsert. Refils just fine, and taste is fine. After blue fluval for months,and gallons of mouth flooding, I decided to go back to basics, and keeping it basic has removed all of my issues that I DISTINCTLY remember having when I first started vaping. Also, mind the grain pattern on the batting. It must be vertical like the cart. Easy in=easy out. Its the carts "tell"

 

[JamesMods]

IDK what your doing but i measured my dripper bottles at 30 drops for 1ML

you are wasting anywhere between 60 and 300 drops???? A DAY?!?!?!
Others might consider that user error

I totally agree. You know I spent about 30 years figuring out how to smoke. Vaping isn't exactly like smoking. Not that I'm complaining. I've been vaping for about 2 months now - and about 3 weeks on a 510.

I've got a great analogy for ya. How many of us turned green on non filters the first time we dared ro smoke one? how much tobacco ended up in your mouth that first time? Remember the burn? Did you start salivating like a Labrador after a long run? Did the damn thing end up sticking to your lip and tear as you pulled it away from your mouth? Mine sure did!

I'm getting better at judging when to stop. when to leave that final drop off the cart. In six months time, I'll have this down to that subconscious art form we all are glad to free from!

Thanks for the drop to mill rate. That's handy when you think of capacity. it puts the regular carts just under .5 mls for me. however, I measure my daily usage by site on the bottle. Half a 30ml bottle is 15 - split the half in thirds and you got about 5 mills. Today I used a little less than a 6th of bottle of 24mg pear, and one cart of HS 555 to get the day going.

 

[Loco]

In an effort to amuse the PV zen masters here with my follies, and possibly educate other young Padawan vapers on how to avoid getting a mouthful of juice and feeling like Jar Jar Binks, I offer these words of hard learned Joye 510 wisdom:

#1: After spending several weeks seeking the “Holy Grail” of cart mods for my 510, I’ve come to this simple conclusion: They All Suck. Don’t get me wrong, and please remember, this is just my humble opinion. I am not offering any empirical proof that one sucks more than another, and I freely admit most of them suck less than the original polyfill straight from China. However, they all suck for different reasons. Most mods are our humble attempts to defy the natural order of the universe: Put more stuff in a finite space. Logic, dictates we have to remove something from that space to put more in it. The srping mod, silicone plug mod, straw mod, paper clip mod are all geared at removing the bottom filler from the cart to create more space for juice. While they do accomplish this, my experience has been mixed. I find they leak. All of these mods require you to remove the top filler or plug to fill the cart. This gets messy at 80 miles an hour during rush hour. Before you get in the car, get three or four carts filled up and ready to go. I’ve tried most of them now: Pyramid teabags – leaked all over the place, Nylon thread – tasted like old socks and the treads would get stuck to the bridge, Tissue – 12 drops wasted. I never tried cat hair or fecal matter – just didn’t want to go there. I’ve settled on the Buff puff mod. I compress the fill a bit and I can get about 12 – 14 drops in a cart. The big complaint about this mod is, just like the original fill, juice gets stuck at the bottom of the cart. The remedy is to flick the 510 like an old style mercury thermometer and sling the juice down into the atty when it starts to fade, or top off the cart every 15 drags or so if you’re just sitting around the house. Don’t use the thermometer method on automatic batteries! You won’t be happy.

#2: If your 510 sounds like bubbling .... water, you’re about to get a mouthful of juice. It’s bubbling for one of two reasons, the cart vents have juice in them, or the atty is flooded. Stop now. Pull the cart off the atty and take a drag straight off the atty. Make sure the atty is cool before you do this as atty burns on your lips aren’t very attractive. Errr, or so I’m told You can usually vape down the excess juice this way if you’re careful. An alternative is to carry a blank cart with no fill. Pop on the shell and vape until it clears up or you begin to taste something I liken to burnt .... If it’s just too full to do anything with, unscrew it from the battery and blow through the threaded end until it clears out. I wrap a tissue around it to avoid spewing juice all over my clothes, the furniture, and my dog. She tends to start looking at me funny when I’m doing this. I think it must be like a dog whistle. I can’t hear it but she sure does. Once you’ve got the atty cleared, you need to start thinking about the cart. Give it a little puff. If you hear juice in the chamber you need to clear it out too. That tissue will come in handy again. Loosely wrap the tissue around the end of the cart and blow as hard as you can. If you’ve blown so hard your eyes bulge out their sockets, please seek medical attention. Again, that tissue serves the same purpose of keeping the flying juice off the dog. This is where I start getting peeved. You can only put 10 to 14 drops in the cart to begin with. I’m now looking at 3 to 5 drops of juice wasted and stuck in a tissue; which brings me to my next piece of advice, or enlightenment…

#3: When it comes to Juice, less is more (more or less). Trying to squeeze that last drop in is a waste. It’s going to overfill the cart. No amount of squishing the filler around with a safety pin is going to make it soak in. Bite the bullet and dab it off with that tissue. It’s either that, or you’ll end up clearing the atty and cart out a few drags down the road. I find if I dab the cart with my juice bottle for the last last drop or two I don’t over fill. It’s like I’m getting half drops out of the bottle instead. Enough said.

#4: Your battery will die when you don’t have a spare. I guess this is really Murphy’s law applied to vaping. Mine always seems to give up the ghost right after I’ve refilled my cart and I’m getting ready to take that first great drag.

#5: When you’re halfway through your juice bottles, order more. I’m going through about 7 to 10mls of juice a day now. When I started it was closer to 15. I think I’m actually vaping about 5 or 6. The excess is waste from blowing out carts and attys. My consumption is still going down. I’m leaving a seven day window open to get supplies. I reorder when I’m down to around 40 mls on hand. If you run out, you’ll be smoking analogs again to get through. I’ve gotten to the point where I’m down to about 5 analogs a day now. I now prefer vaping over analogs, and as soon as this last pack is gone, I won’t buy any more.

#6: The taste of your vapor doesn’t fade, your tounge does. Do you find yourself topping off a cart only to find that it’s full? Do you’ll feel vapor in your mouth, and see it as you exhale, but taste or smell nothing? The nicotine in the vapor has deadened your taste buds and they are overload from the artificial flavor in your juice. Adding more flavor to juice won’t fix this. I really want to debunk this myth. Follow these steps the next time you feel like the flavor has faded but your 510 is still producing tons of vapor:
· Put your 510 down,
· Go brush your teeth and gargle with mouth wash.
· After that, gargle again with straight club soda.
· Now drink about 6 ounces more letting it sit in your mouth until the bubles go away before you swallow.
Can you taste the flavor now?

And Finally:

#7: Most e-juice burns if you accidently light it on fire! I’ll spare you the details. Let’s just say it involved a lot of rum, a dead battery, and some creative thinking….. Live and learn.

I'd also add it's useful to know the resistance of your atties along with the voltage output of your battery. This can help in getting the best vape. My multimeter is proving very useful.

 

[Chiqa]

OP what a great thread. I wont say how many of those things I have done myself. I can say I have settled into blue fuval pre cut and it seems to work best/easiest for me. Thank you for the laugh , it was a bit like looking in the mirror.

 

[BradSmith]

Drip drip drip drip drip drip drip drip drip drip drip drip de drip de drip on a drip tip.

 

[Kelemvor]

i don't need to drip, i am able to stuff carts

*sorry, i really didn't say that a long time

 

[Kirssstens]

Holy Cripes!? 7-10 mls a day???!! Did I read it's a 24 mg size too? And still smoking analogs? Something is definately not right in vaporland.

I wonder why you are not able to get your satisfaction on less juice because your intake is really high. You know you can watch a thousand videos about how many drops but have you considered the less is more and maybe 3-4 drops on a clean filler and 2 on the atty?

All the money you're spending on juice, you could have bought a better PV, ie. protege, bartleby, VPYR, mr puffer, ego, etc.

Because you're right, the 510 does suck. Everyone on this forum is cignot this and cignot that. My 510 kit from cignot lasted all of one month and was quickly retired for an ego with cartomizers.

For me, and yes my years long consumption of analogs is pretty close to your 30 years, it's about 10 ml every 5 days, or
2ml a day. I hope you are able to find a solution and cut back on the amount of juice you're using.

By the way, 30 years? Did you start smoking when you we're 5?

 

[lorikay13]

Nice thread,JamesMod..thanks!

I'm in the process of switching from cartomizers to a 510. Right now using 510 atty on KR8 batteries (w/adapter) and waiting for my Mr Puffer

I will say that I tried Scottyballs ZFM cart mod kit from his website....and after several failed attempts due to the infamous "user error" I finally figured out what I was doing wrong. And I love these things! Just my opinion....but the ZFM using Scotty's kit works for me....

 

[BobbyLupo]

James mod is way off on half the stuff he posted at least in my experience with the 510. Read this thread as a new vapor and it was my sole reason for joining this forum was to point this out to anyone new to vaping and the 510 who may be scared off by some of the information in this post.

P.S. also did a test driving 45 mph today and filling a cart had no problems at all it was simple.

 

[Chiqa]

James mod is way off on half the stuff he posted at least in my experience with the 510. Read this thread as a new vapor and it was my sole reason for joining this forum was to point this out to anyone new to vaping and the 510 who may be scared off by some of the information in this post.

P.S. also did a test driving 45 mph today and filling a cart had no problems at all it was simple.

We all takes something different way from someone else s post. Personally I took away humor as a way to mange some human folly. Nothing wrong with laughing at ourselves on occasion. Having done several of the things listed I do appreciate the list and the funny way it he posted. I don't believe the OP was trying to scare off potential 510 users. But then again this is just my outlook. obviously yours is different.

 

[justsomeguy]

James mod is way off on half the stuff he posted at least in my experience with the 510. Read this thread as a new vapor and it was my sole reason for joining this forum was to point this out to anyone new to vaping and the 510 who may be scared off by some of the information in this post.

P.S. also did a test driving 45 mph today and filling a cart had no problems at all it was simple.

So you went out of your way to join just to point out that someone was "way off on half the stuff he posted".... but you aren't going to bother telling anyone what half you thought was wrong, or why?

Yeah, that's helpful.

 

[BobbyLupo]

Thanks justsomeguy for the warm welcome.

Now that I have some time I will go into more detail as to where jamesmod could be misleading those new to vaping..............

Rule#1- I have not used any other mod except for the PTB mod. double folded and frayed of course as suggested by GrimGreen (I believe?) on youtube. Leaking on it is very rare and only happens when you refill too many times with out cleaning and re rolling the mod. I personally wouldn't clean each double folded and frayed PTB mod more than 2-3 time before throwing it away but still never had a major problem with leakage, seemed to have gotten it down where i am getting no leakage at all....pretty simple stuff to figure out.

Nylon taste is not there at all. Never have once tasted it using the PTB mod, have tasted the filler on the pre filled carts before.

refilling-you will need to pull the PTB out to do a complete refill this is rather easy if you keep some tweezers on hand, sure you may get some juice on your fingers putting the filler back in(if some e liquid is still on your PTB from your last fill up) but the whole process is rather simple. While driving I have found topping off rather than a complete refill to be the most effective method of getting a vape on when you cannot or do not care to pull over. Just make sure you are using a rather fresh PTB cart as you may get juice in your mouth if you are topping off a rather old beat up PTB.

Rule #2- Bubbling .... water, i find im getting some of my better hits when i am hearing an ever so slight bubbling .... water effect on my 510. Only about 1 in 15 drags has this resulted in juice in my mouth( matter of fact i just took a drag and got the bubbling .... water sound and no juice in mouth)

Threads get stuck in the bridge of the atomizer? You are supposed to be putting the cut end towards the mouthpiece and the folded end on the atomizer, not possible to get a loose thread anywhere near the atomizer. If you were using one of the old PTB mods which tried as well, you must CUT any loose threads.

I'm getting 14-19 drops into my PTB mods. Sometimes you will have to dab off a drop, however if you let the cart sit for a bit allowing your e juice to soak in you usually will not have too waste any drops. Never once have i had to drag directly off the atty nor have I flooded an atty yet. Granted I am rather new to this only been vaping for 3 weeks and a day but that seems to be about how long the original poster has been vaping.

Rule #3- fits into everything said in rule #2

Rule #4- As a person who has already lost 1 of the 2 batteries my kit came with I am still having no problem staying vaping whenever i want, the key to vaping life is a PT.


Rule #5- I will pretty much agree with the orignial poster here, though i would say 1/3 of a bottle for since he seems to be vaping/using many more MLs than most will.

Rules #6 and #7- Never had this happen to me, so i cannot comment on it.


Hope this helps anyone who may shy away from vaping or the 510 from the orginal posters guide. Thanks much for reading. just my , hope it makes sense.


edited to show top off at 55 while changing lanes no problem

 

[mini_art]

Any one topping off a carto at 55 mph while changing lanes I dont want to be in front of on the road LOL

 

[Sly.Mind]

lol, 55mph im not toppin off anything... i carry more than one cart... TY OP for the great post, i just got my 510 today, and so far its GREAT! i had a blu, and we all know how well those work...*crickets* but yea, i like the 510 and i havent even gotten the atty broken in yet. i havent tried any mods, but so far i dont think ill have to... i ordered a pack of cartomizers, and ill see how those are. again, ty for the post,

Happy Vaping!!!

 

[cathysull]

Holy Cripes!? 7-10 mls a day???!! Did I read it's a 24 mg size too? And still smoking analogs? Something is definately not right in vaporland.

I wonder why you are not able to get your satisfaction on less juice because your intake is really high. You know you can watch a thousand videos about how many drops but have you considered the less is more and maybe 3-4 drops on a clean filler and 2 on the atty?

All the money you're spending on juice, you could have bought a better PV, ie. protege, bartleby, VPYR, mr puffer, ego, etc.

Because you're right, the 510 does suck. Everyone on this forum is cignot this and cignot that. My 510 kit from cignot lasted all of one month and was quickly retired for an ego with cartomizers.

For me, and yes my years long consumption of analogs is pretty close to your 30 years, it's about 10 ml every 5 days, or
2ml a day. I hope you are able to find a solution and cut back on the amount of juice you're using.

By the way, 30 years? Did you start smoking when you we're 5?

The 510 and blank cartomizers filled with your favorite juice RULE! I've been analog free for more than two months now and wouldn't use anything else. The condom method of filling makes it all sooooo easy.

 

[Sly.Mind]

The 510 and blank cartomizers filled with your favorite juice RULE! I've been analog free for more than two months now and wouldn't use anything else. The condom method of filling makes it all sooooo easy.

YES! the 510 cartos are GREAT! i get mad crazy vapor, and i only have to refill it once a day! i love them! condom fill is THE ONLY way to go. AND GET A 510 USB PASSTHRU!!! its a 5v and it wakes up the cartos verywell, i dont even use batteries anymore, unless i leave the house lol.