901 vs EVOlution

[schmoker]

So, I'm getting close to being ready to make my first purchase, and I've got it down to 2 options: a DSE901 or the EVOlution.

Now at first I thought it would be the 901 hands down, but I've heard some really good things about the Evo, including that it has a pretty decent battery life for a super mini.

What are people's thoughts and experience of each, especially if you own or have owned both? I used to be a pack a day smoker, but am now down to maybe 1-2 packs a week, but still feel making the switch to vaping is the way to go.

I liked the idea of a super mini from when I started looking around, but found the advice was always that they were poor in comparison to a mini like the 901 due to battery life, vapor production etc etc.

So what do people think about the pros and cons of each of these two PVs, let me know...

 

[chief druid]

ooo ooo i can answere this one ... i have the evo and a 901 .... ... i was a 20 to 40 a day smoker ... been clean for 3 months... ish ... and all i can say is that i dont use my 901 much any more ... only in emergencies ... evo is reliable and it just works ... the only thing the 901 has over the evo is the ease of topping of the cart ... but just to be a compleate git i would like to throw the janty dura-c into the mix .... granted its a manual switch and not really the begginers e cig but ... once i got my dura-c its been virtually the only device i use ... even though i love the evo ...

 

[schmoker]

ooo ooo i can answere this one ... i have the evo and a 901 .... ... i was a 20 to 40 a day smoker ... been clean for 3 months... ish ... and all i can say is that i dont use my 901 much any more ... only in emergencies ... evo is reliable and it just works ... the only thing the 901 has over the evo is the ease of topping of the cart ... but just to be a compleate git i would like to throw the janty dura-c into the mix .... granted its a manual switch and not really the begginers e cig but ... once i got my dura-c its been virtually the only device i use ... even though i love the evo ...

So you would say that apart from the ease of refilling/topping off, the EVO beats a 901 hands down? There's nothing else about your 901 which you prefer?

I've not looked into the dura-c (probably because as you say it doesn't sound like the ideal "beginners" e-cig), but I'll check it out now and see if I need to make this a 3-way decision.

Thanks for the advice though, any more would be greatly appreciated!

 

[megan]

For me, the 901 has a way easier draw and more vapor. I feel like i have to suck hard on the evo...even with a new batt, atty, etc.
The 901 has been way more reliable. Battery life seems to be the same for both models. Throat hit is pretty equal too. They are both great e-cigs.
I would suggest to get the Evo first. You will love it. THen get a 901 in a month. You will appreciate the difference and be like "WOW I LOVE THIS THING". Then just switch back and forth when batts or attys die. That's what I do and it works just fine.

 

[chief druid]

lol i could give advice all day but i try to limit it as i tend to waffle on and end up confusing people ... not quite as literate as some other people on here ....

oh yeah the 901 has a usb passthrough ... and the evo doesnt ... oh but hang on ... the dura will have a passthrough in about a month lol ...

thing is you can never have have enough e cigs or accesories/spares .... but you will probably end up buying a kissbox lol ....

everyone says "yeah 901 is the bestbegginer e cig" yeah its a bit cheaper than most but i bought one about a week before i got my dura and i almost whish i hadnt bothered now .. but hey ho its a good back up

 

[schmoker]

I guess it's difficult to really know a huge amount about reliability seen as the experiences people have with the same models seem to vary wildly. Sounds a bit like second hand cars to an extent, you can get a good [model x] or a bad [model x]. Although I guess with e-cigs it is a little different as pretty soon every part of your cig will have been replaced completely anyway...

 

[chief druid]

true .... my first e cig was a 84mm both atomisers died almost instantly ... they sent my new ones after a lot of emails and they were totally different in almost every way ad its still going a month later ... i've bought a few different e cigs ... i'm now looking at an i inhale ... almost every one who starts vaping wants something that looks like a real cig but they soon move on to something huge and black so their not associated with smoking anymore and its easier to vape a long black thing in pubs lol

 

[CellWho]

So I have both the 901 and 401 sitting in front of me and I've been using both for a few weeks. They are both good devices, but have definite differences. The 901 has a fuller and warmer vapor production which I find more satisfying than the 401, as the 401's vapor seems to have more air in the mix. Also, the battery switches are different. The 401 has the electronic switch which means that wind or noise can activate it. The DSE 901 and RN series don't have the electric switch, though the EM901 series does. I also find that the 901 switch is flakier than the 401. I often start a drag and it doesn't activate. This does not happen with the 401.

The battery life on the 401 is longer than the 901 and it seems that the 401 just has a better build quality. I find that flavor seems to be a little nice on the 901, but the 901 atomizer gets a little burnt taste fairly fast (even after a cleaning). When using the 901, vapor production trails off dramatically as the battery drains, but the 401 doesn't do this.

You should note that the evo batteries seemed to be better than the smoore batteries, but in my experience the smoore atomizers are much better for vapor production (though the evo atomizers give a little more throat hit). I also find that nic gets delivered much better with the 901. With the 401 battery, you have a 5 or 7 second cutoff which means if you drag on it for longer that that, it will turn itself off for 2 minutes. With the 901, if you hit the 5 second cutoff, it just blinks a few times and you can hit it again.

As a result of the battery life and build quality, I generally use my 401. If I have a craving, or just feel the need for a bigger hit, I will use the 901. That all being said, when I have more cash, I will most likely buy a 510 with a manual switch. I just hear such great things about it. You may want to check it out

Hope that helps.

 

[WiηgC¤mmαηdεя]

I never tried the 901, I started with the RN4081 and it wasn't quite what we were looking for, then found this forum. After watching/reading several reviews picked the Evo(black) since my wife wanted something as close to a cigarette size as possible, and I was looking for a good performing "personal vaporizer".
After getting the Evo and testing it I haven't ordered anything other than parts/liquid/carts specifically for the Evo and am personally very pleased.
I get good life from the battery, I find if you use the 401 battery(genie) I can get away with 2 in rotation, if I use the 402 battery(mighty atom) I recommend 3 in rotation. I do prefer the 402 battery though since i find them more responsive.
The stock carts give excellent vapor production, but if using a PG formula e-liquid I get less vapor. To correct this, when refilling a cart(I wash and dry overnight carts in rotation) I start with 1 drop of glycerine, add 7 drops of e-liquid (Johnson Creek is easiest for me to obtain) and top off with another drop of glycerine.
If it wasn't for the Health Canada warning I would probably be trying other models, but I am pleased enough with the Evo to stock up on that model in case of an outright ban.
Best wishes, happy Vaping.

 

[Vapor]

As a at home e-cig, the 901 beats the evo hands down....although the evo does have more throat hit than the 901.

As a on the go e-cig the evo beats the 901 hands down.

The 901 hooked up with a passthrough will give you a lot of consistent vapor plus added throat hit.

The 901 battery is decent but goes down hill very quickly.

The evo batteries will last you mush longer than the 901 batteries.

The evo is a pain to refill and have to be very careful when refilling or you will get a shot of juice.

I know you are considering the evo OR the 901, but for the best of both worlds i suggest you to look into the joye 510/dura c.

When i did not own the joye 510, i found that having the evo AND the 901 was essential. Used as on the go and at home respectively.

The evo just fell face down on the floor when i was vaping at home because of the 5 second cut off and the took too many drags cut off and coupled with the pain in the .... refilling.

 

[schmoker]

If it's likely that I'm going to be vaping at home like 90% of the time, would that tip things in favour of the 901 in most people's opinions?

 

[Vapor]

if you are going to be vaping 90% of the time at home then definitely go with the 901 imo.

ps. and dont forget to get the usb passthrough for it.

pss. also if you are not getting a lot of vapor after the first 2 days of vaping with the 901, then contact whomever you bought it from for a replacement because i have read some new people posting about how their 901's werent creating lots of vapor.

 

[waywardsister]

I have both, and I really like both about equally. The M401, to me, feels more like a ciggy and I use it with higher nic juice when I want a real hit. I like the harder drag on it too, emulates how I smoke analogs. The 901 I keep loaded with very low nic juice, for mindless vaping. I find I get more flavour with the 901 as well.

I don't find the 401 carts a pain to refill at home, but out and about would be a bit of a hassle compared to the 901. Prefilled 401 carts work great, compared to prefilled 901's which, in my experience, weren't very good.

Definitely getting USB passthroughs for both models! I do fine with two M401 batts, and there's no drop in vapour or throat hit as the batts run down. With the 901 there definitely is, and the batts don't last as long. I have 6 901 batts on the go!

One thing I don't like about the 401 is that it activates via sound, wind etc. This is a hassle when out and about. Though I've had my 901 do this as well, so who knows.

Another thing - I have a white/brown 401, and a lot of people think it's one of those fake cigs used for the green stuff So the 901 might be easier out in public (though you can get black 401's)

 

[vaporize me]

A usb passthrough is available for the m401/EVO...works great!

USB Passthrough for the 401

 

[lorraineg57]

I got the 901 and use the Dura Cartridges. Works very well, easy draw. I'm not a hardcore vaper but I've had the same cartridge in since yesterday evening...

 

[lorraineg57]

if you are going to be vaping 90% of the time at home then definitely go with the 901 imo.

ps. and dont forget to get the usb passthrough for it.

pss. also if you are not getting a lot of vapor after the first 2 days of vaping with the 901, then contact whomever you bought it from for a replacement because i have read some new people posting about how their 901's werent creating lots of vapor.

I wasn't getting any vape on exhaling until the atomizer was "broken in" Only took a few hours of on and off vaping...

 

[Vapor]

In my experience using the 901, it really depends on the atomizer. The first atomizer that i tried "broke in" within a few hours but the second atomizer that i tried didnt wake up until about 1-2 days of vaping. So as a rule of thumb, i always give any kind of atomizer 2 days to break in or i will be contacting my supplier for a replacement.

Just to give you an idea...

Topping off the 901 at home while connected to the passthrough basically goes like this.

disconnect the cart
drop 2 drops into atomizer
drop a couple of drops into the cart until you see a little pool of liquid.

Topping off the EVO with or without passthrough.

Disconnect cart.
Get paper clip to push the inner cart out.
Get paper clip to pull the filling out.
Drop no more than 4-5 drops into inner chamber.
Put the inner filling back in again.
Wipe all excess liquid from the inner cart.
Get q-tip to clean the inside of the cart where the inner chamber goes.
Drop 2 drops into atomizer.
Get a shot of juice in your mouth because you rushed any of the above steps....priceless

If anyone does it differently, you are welcome to chime in.

What worked best for me with the EVO was to prefill (carefully) a set amount of cartridges before hand and then capping them with the little rubber cap that they come with.

ps. I have not tried the evo with a passtrhough so my experience might differ from someone who has used the passthrough with it.