I have come to the conclusion that for me there is no good tasting ry4.
The last sample I tried tasted like something the cat dragged in an the dog wouldn't eat.
The exhaled vapor had a strong funky smell to it.
Have you tried V4Ls Hilton or Dekangs Hillington?
They have a light tobacco presents with touch of sweet.
You are right about these ry4s...I am going to give them up entirely...they taste way to nasty for my taste buds. People love them though...I just do not know how...one taste worse than the other and the more praise one gets seems to be the worse for me...go figure?