A different 510 Review

[rickghouse]

I've gotta go with flooding, bad atty, bad batt, or a combo of any of these.

When I've flooded the attys, the vapor production is similar to what I see in the vid. Same with a bad atty OR a weak batt.

Do they draw hard?

Don't give up...the 510 really IS a great PV (and so is the 801).

Where did you get your setup?

The draw is easy on all my 3-piece rigs. I got my 510's from RMV.

I've flooded my atties before, cleaned them & caried on. Both my 510 batts act the same. My 801 & 901 act the same. No satisfaction, no relief, no flavor.

My quest continues!

 

[spaky]

You must have some bad parts or something. I just tried vaping along with you in your video with my 510. All I can say is that by hitting it as long as you did I almost fell out of my chair coughing.
I can only come to 2 conclusions: either you have faulty equipment or you are purposely trying to make the 510 look bad. Now I don't really think that you are trying to make it look bad, but you are the only one on here that I have found that has this problem. Now clearly some people prefer other models, but even those would have to admit that that's not a normal performance of a 510.

 

[Wireguy]

You must have some bad parts or something. I just tried vaping along with you in your video with my 510. All I can say is that by hitting it as long as you did I almost fell out of my chair coughing.
I can only come to 2 conclusions: either you have faulty equipment or you are purposely trying to make the 510 look bad.

Two more. Operator error or a troll. I'm not choosing any of the options. Just pointing out other options. The OP's vaping results are obviously different from the majority of 510 users. Myself included.

I did the same thing you did except I used a partially used battery that had been sitting around for a week. I don't use the stock batteries often. My results were similar to yours.

 

[spaky]

Ya I guess it still could be operator error if he didn't screw in the atty to make its connections. That's the only way I could push the button on the battery a puff on it and not have plenty or any vapor come out.

 

[Timtam]

Ya I guess it still could be operator error if he didn't screw in the atty to make its connections. That's the only way I could push the button on the battery a puff on it and not have plenty or any vapor come out.

I doubt this is the problem as when he was taking short puffs, there was vapour, but not much at all. If the atty wasn't screwed in all the way, he'd get nothing.

 

[spaky]

Well if you notice before he goes and takes the short puffs he twists the atty. Also during the long puff he took a couple of short breaks and no vapor came out like on the short puffs.

 

[Rusty]

I've just watched the vid and Rick's tongue is firmly planted in his cheek.

Well Done Rick, you made this Barnsley lad chuckle


Happy New Year and Merry Vaping.



Rusty

 

[cassavetes]

Maybe vaping just isn't for Rick.

I think pipe smoking would be a good look for you. Tweed hat maybe? Matching sport coat?

Rock it, Rick. Rock it.

 

[HippyGirl]

Bah! Sorry fella, but I really think all possible issues have been addressed between this thread and your original. Really, what more is there to say?

The way I see it, you have two choices...buy yourself a new Joye 510 or write the 510 off completely.

You said in another forum post that flavor is more important to you than throat hit.

In yet another post, you said that vapor production ranks low.

I believe you said in this thread that you're OK with an 808. If so, then the two statements quoted above would suggest that perhaps an 808 is the way to go for you.

That's pretty much it. Carry on in your quest.

Moving on...

 

[rickghouse]

I've gotta go with flooding, bad atty, bad batt, or a combo of any of these.

When I've flooded the attys, the vapor production is similar to what I see in the vid. Same with a bad atty OR a weak batt.

Do they draw hard?

No it's not a hard draw.

Don't give up...the 510 really IS a great PV (and so is the 801).

Where did you get your setup?

RMV. Are they known to have inferior hardware?

Thanks,

Rick.

 

[rickghouse]

You must have some bad parts or something. I just tried vaping along with you in your video with my 510. All I can say is that by hitting it as long as you did I almost fell out of my chair coughing.
I can only come to 2 conclusions: either you have faulty equipment or you are purposely trying to make the 510 look bad. Now I don't really think that you are trying to make it look bad, but you are the only one on here that I have found that has this problem. Now clearly some people prefer other models, but even those would have to admit that that's not a normal performance of a 510.

When my 510's were new, they did produce more vapor. But not more flavor and not more satisfaction. Every juice has always tased like cardboard in my 510's, 801's (metallic tasting cardboard in 801) and 901's.

I do get flavor from KR808D-1, but it's a sickeningly sweet flavor. And I do get a little satisfaction if I take several long drags (I have a row of cartos lined up and take 1 long drag on each). But then I have a coughing spell.

But as DonDaBoomVape said, "Never Give Up".

My quest for a decent e-cig continues.

Rick.

 

[Scottbee]

Rick,

Seriously.. do the following:

Rinse your atty out with warm water.. blow it out through both ends... rinse.. repeat. Do this a bunch of times.

Blow it out by mouth as well as you can. Hook it up to your battery (a PT would be better) with no cartridge. Press the button and count to 5. Release for 5 seconds. Repeat this process until you get the coil to glow red (dry burn). If the coil never glows red, you will never get good vapor from this combo (for whatever reason.. battery or atty) and you can skip the rest. Once you get a dry burn (red glow)... allow the atty to cool. Do the water rinse again (to get rid of ash and fried deposits). Blow dry the atty to the best of your ability (I use a compressor).

Check the resistance if you have a meter.

Prime the atty with 3-4 drops of liquid.

Install the cartridge and vape until you get billows of vapor. The atty will quickly consume the first cartridge of e-liquid as all of the mesh becomes re-wetted.

If you don't get clouds of vapor after this.... throw the whole mess out and get a new kit from Cignot.

Seriously..... the 510 can and should produce tons of vapor. But everybody has already told you this.

P.S. After doing the above procedure.. I could do a video review.. but honestly, you wouldn't be able to see me or the PV. I'm vaping ECOpure 18mg with some 151 for TH.... and I just disappear.....

 

[Scottbee]

Allow me to add. After you do the above procedure, you should easily be able to hear the atty "sizzle" in-between mouth hits, and for about a second after you release the button. Once again, if you don't..... time for new hardware.

And people have a hard time believing this.. but if you have an atty that tends to run hot (hot outer casing), it is more likely due to it having too much fluid in it (near flooded) than being too dry. The liquid conducts the heat away from the coil and transmits it to the outer casing. A happy 510 atty runs cooler than one might think.

 

[rickghouse]

mmmmkay

Any chance all of your juice bottles have the words "stealth" on them

If not...

Then you simply have to be doing "something" wrong. Either you aren't filling the cart correctly (and we really can't see how full, wet, or dry your cart is on the video).

Or you've ruined your atty's from constantly oversoaking or dry burning them LONG before you took the video.

Or you have some very VERY old juice, weak lungs, or maybe....


You know exactly what you're doing but, you work for big tobacco



If you're actually being serious with your last statement, pick up all of your toys and ask a fellow vaper to try it out. Maybe he can see what's what and show you.

Thanks, anim8r ... you made me laugh, and a good laugh is good medicine for me right now.

I think I may be giving the 510 another try, but this time at higher voltage. I'm quite interested in the Chameleon (Thanks to CrazyTerrie11 for the tip) which does 801, 901, 510 & KR808. They offer a 901 High Voltage atty and a 510 High Voltage atty. I sent them some questions, and if I'm satisfied with their answers, I'll put in my order (although they show the Chameleon out of stock right now ... bummer).

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Thanks again for the chuckles, anim8r!

Rick.

 

[rickghouse]

Rick,

Seriously.. do the following:

Rinse your atty out with warm water.. blow it out through both ends... rinse.. repeat. Do this a bunch of times.

Blow it out by mouth as well as you can. Hook it up to your battery (a PT would be better) with no cartridge. Press the button and count to 5. Release for 5 seconds. Repeat this process until you get the coil to glow red (dry burn). If the coil never glows red, you will never get good vapor from this combo (for whatever reason.. battery or atty) and you can skip the rest. Once you get a dry burn (red glow)... allow the atty to cool. Do the water rinse again (to get rid of ash and fried deposits). Blow dry the atty to the best of your ability (I use a compressor).

Check the resistance if you have a meter.

Prime the atty with 3-4 drops of liquid.

Install the cartridge and vape until you get billows of vapor. The atty will quickly consume the first cartridge of e-liquid as all of the mesh becomes re-wetted.

If you don't get clouds of vapor after this.... throw the whole mess out and get a new kit from Cignot.

Seriously..... the 510 can and should produce tons of vapor. But everybody has already told you this.

P.S. After doing the above procedure.. I could do a video review.. but honestly, you wouldn't be able to see me or the PV. I'm vaping ECOpure 18mg with some 151 for TH.... and I just disappear.....

Thanks Scottbee, for the detailed atty cleaning instructions!

I did 10 reps of the rince & blow, then a good final blow and onto the batt. 10 reps of the 5 second on and 5 second off. I got sizzling, but no red glow (even in a dark room).

So apparently my 2nd 510 atty has packed it in (my first one died completely, not a hint of vapor within a month).

But I just can't get excited about getting more 510's (unless I also get higher voltage) because even brand new, my 510's gave me no flavor and almost no satisfaction.

I am investigating the Chameleon, so I may be doing some high voltage 510 vaping.

Thanks for your help!

Rick.

 

[Scottbee]

Rick,

For giggles.. continue the dry burn process and see if you can get it to glow. Honest.. I have had some atty's that I thought were just complete crap.... and I finally got them to glow and then they performed like champs.

I made a LOT of mistakes when I first got my 510..... flooded it.. dried it out.. put bad juice in it. You name it. I had an entire graveyard of atties that I thought were garbage.... and I have "resurrected" virtually every one of them. And now that I now what I'm doing... they all taste and work quite well.

You've got nothing to lose at this point. Make her glow!

P.S. I'd love to know what the resistance reading is on that atty!

 

[LukeNM]

How come I feel like the next video you produce will be of the new mod you invented?

 

[DaBrat]

I just used the removal of bridge atty mod one poster posted and BEFORE that my atty was getting a better vapor production than that with 4 month old batteries and I am a constant vaper. You said you used the batteries til you retired the 510 right you do realize that over time, even though the battery reads a charge it has less and less voltage right? If you got that outta the box like that and didn't return it, your bad.

I have ordered several 510s and have never seen what you displayed before unless the batt was on the edge of death., the atty was flooded or needed SERIOUS cleaning (and I don't mean blowing out). If it is getting hot and giving no vapor... try the mod for removing the bridge and drip away.

 

[Fruits]

If you drip a couple drops onto the atty does it get any better? Looks like its dried out to me. Don't worry about flooding it, you only got to blow it out again. I just get the feeling its too dry. If all your ecigs are the same then either they're old or faulty or user error. Im lucky if an atty lasts me 2 weeks before it gets really weak.
User error, we watched the vid but dont know how old everything is, how good the cart filler is, if all connections are clean, batteries are charged properly, atties dry/wet etc.
By way of process of elimination you should be able to figure it out. Change parts around, I take it you got spares.

 

[anim8r]

Thanks, anim8r ... you made me laugh, and a good laugh is good medicine for me right now.

I think I may be giving the 510 another try, but this time at higher voltage. I'm quite interested in the Chameleon (Thanks to CrazyTerrie11 for the tip) which does 801, 901, 510 & KR808. They offer a 901 High Voltage atty and a 510 High Voltage atty. I sent them some questions, and if I'm satisfied with their answers, I'll put in my order (although they show the Chameleon out of stock right now ... bummer).

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Thanks again for the chuckles, anim8r!

Rick.

Glad to assist

Whatever you do, dump your liquid supplier and at least get some bottles from diyflavorshack before you do anything else.

Might as well try your new mod with the best stuff out there.