A little help for first time DIY juice

[Offensetaken]

Hoping to get a little help from some of those pros here with my first time at DIY juice.

I have read all the stickies and done quite a bit of research. Got my first order today from WL and a fairly large order it was.

I'm copying and pasting my order to make it easier for all that may be of assistance!

60mg Nicotine solution - 120ml - Carrier Base Liquid: 100% USP Propylene G.. - Child Resistant Cap: Add

Propylene Glycol - 250ml

Vegetable Glycerin - 250ml

Ethyl Maltol 10% PG Solution (TFA)

Menthol Liquid 10% Solution PG (WL)

American Red tobacco Flavor Concentrate (TFA)

Blueberry Candy TFA Flavor

Caramel Original TFA Flavor

Raspberry Sweet Flavor (TFA)

Butterscotch Flavor (TFA)

Coffee Flavor Concentrate (TFA)

Captain Black tobacco Flavor (SM)

Light Brand Tobacco Flavor (SM)

Mtype Premium Tobacco Flavor (TFA)

Graham Cracker Flavor (TFA)

Tobacco Absolute Blend PG ( TFA )

Strawberry Ripe Flavor Concentrate (TFA)

English Toffee Flavor (TFA)

20ml Luer Lock Syringe - Quantity Discounts

10ml Luer Lock Syringe - Quantity Discounts

14ga Blunt Tip Luer-Lock Needle 1.5" - Quantity Discounts

20ga Blunt Tip Luer-Lock Needle 1.5" - Quantity Discounts

3ml Luer Lock Syringe - Quantity Discounts

30ml Amber Glass Bottle w/ Polycone Cap

60ml Amber Glass Bottle w/ Polycone Cap

30ml LDPE Dropper Bottle with Child Resist Cap

Absinthe Flavor Concentrate (TFA)

Hazelnut Flavor Concentrate (TFA)

Lemon Lime Flavor (TFA)

Maraschino Cherry PG Flavor (TFA)

Peach Flavor Concentrate (TFA)

Toasted Marshmallow Flavor Concentrate (TFA)

Vanilla Swirl Flavor (TFA)

Double Chocolate Clear Flavor (TFA)

Cotton Candy Flavor (TFA)

Tobacco Type Flavor Concentrate (TFA)

So that is my list of flavors that I have as well as Hangsen RY1 and P-nut butter that I got elsewhere since WL was out of PB. I am kinda overwhelmed by my flavor choices but figured if I was gonna start DIYing, I may as well dive right in.

Questions are:

The tobacco Absolute says "blend" is it already cut down to 10% and what amount should I start with when adding it to tob. vapes?
I read on WL that it is less than 1% So, maybe a drop or 2 for a 10ml bottle??

Does anyone have good tob. recipe they would like to share or have a good idea where I should start for tob. juice?
I figured I could just mix up the tob. flavors as is and go from there but would like suggestions!

Suggestions or recipes I can mix up with the flavors I have...?

I'm guessing I can just mix up a big bottle of base 50/50 at 24mg so I only have to deal with 60mg nic once? Please correct me if I'm wrong or if it is not a good idea. I have an ejuice calc that I will be using to ensure proper mixing ratios and will be wearing rub. gloves, long sleeves etc. when mixing up my base while using extreme caution and away from my furry friends!

TIA for your help!!

 

[e-pipeman]

Hoping to get a little help from some of those pros here with my first time at DIY juice.

I have read all the stickies and done quite a bit of research. Got my first order today from WL and a fairly large order it was.

I'm copying and pasting my order to make it easier for all that may be of assistance!

60mg Nicotine solution - 120ml - Carrier Base Liquid: 100% USP Propylene G.. - Child Resistant Cap: Add

Propylene Glycol - 250ml

Vegetable Glycerin - 250ml

Ethyl Maltol 10% PG Solution (TFA)

Menthol Liquid 10% Solution PG (WL)

American Red Tobacco Flavor Concentrate (TFA)

Blueberry Candy TFA Flavor

Caramel Original TFA Flavor

Raspberry Sweet Flavor (TFA)

Butterscotch Flavor (TFA)

Coffee Flavor Concentrate (TFA)

Captain Black Tobacco Flavor (SM)

Light Brand Tobacco Flavor (SM)

Mtype Premium Tobacco Flavor (TFA)

Graham Cracker Flavor (TFA)

Tobacco Absolute Blend PG ( TFA )

Strawberry Ripe Flavor Concentrate (TFA)

English Toffee Flavor (TFA)

20ml Luer Lock Syringe - Quantity Discounts

10ml Luer Lock Syringe - Quantity Discounts

14ga Blunt Tip Luer-Lock Needle 1.5" - Quantity Discounts

20ga Blunt Tip Luer-Lock Needle 1.5" - Quantity Discounts

3ml Luer Lock Syringe - Quantity Discounts

30ml Amber Glass Bottle w/ Polycone Cap

60ml Amber Glass Bottle w/ Polycone Cap

30ml LDPE Dropper Bottle with Child Resist Cap

Absinthe Flavor Concentrate (TFA)

Hazelnut Flavor Concentrate (TFA)

Lemon Lime Flavor (TFA)

Maraschino Cherry PG Flavor (TFA)

Peach Flavor Concentrate (TFA)

Toasted Marshmallow Flavor Concentrate (TFA)

Vanilla Swirl Flavor (TFA)

Double Chocolate Clear Flavor (TFA)

Cotton Candy Flavor (TFA)

Tobacco Type Flavor Concentrate (TFA)

So that is my list of flavors that I have as well as Hangsen RY1 and P-nut butter that I got elsewhere since WL was out of PB. I am kinda overwhelmed by my flavor choices but figured if I was gonna start DIYing, I may as well dive right in.

Questions are:

The tobacco Absolute says "blend" is it already cut down to 10% and what amount should I start with when adding it to tob. vapes?
I read on WL that it is less than 1% So, maybe a drop or 2 for a 10ml bottle??

Does anyone have good tob. recipe they would like to share or have a good idea where I should start for tob. juice?
I figured I could just mix up the tob. flavors as is and go from there but would like suggestions!

Suggestions or recipes I can mix up with the flavors I have...?

I'm guessing I can just mix up a big bottle of base 50/50 at 24mg so I only have to deal with 60mg nic once? Please correct me if I'm wrong or if it is not a good idea. I have an ejuice calc that I will be using to ensure proper mixing ratios and will be wearing rub. gloves, long sleeves etc. when mixing up my base while using extreme caution and away from my furry friends!

TIA for your help!!

Wow! You've got a lot of stuff there.

Begin at the beginning.

Grab an empty 10ml bottle.

Put 25 drops of your nic in it.

Get one of your fruit favours. Add about 40 drops.

Like vapour? Fill the rest with vg.

Like flavour?

Half and half, vg & pg.

Shake the bottle. This can be used at once.

Not enough flavour? Add more, drip by drip.

Not enough vapour? More vg..

When you read the forums here you will learn that tobacco flavours take a lot longer to do (in time) and generally much more effort.

You have all the gear - read the forums and enjoy!

 

[Offensetaken]

Thanks for the tips on where to start. I know the tob. vapes will be challenging but that imo will be half the fun.

 

[e-pipeman]

Thanks for the tips on where to start. I know the tob. vapes will be challenging but that imo will be half the fun.

No probs. Good luck!

 

[Offensetaken]

Anyone else care to chime in??

Would really like to know how much tobacco absolute blend to use...??

I mixed a few flavors yesterday.

-Caramel apple turned out yummy
-Smores was good but needs a little work.
-Raspberry Cotton Candy was also good but I'm gonna add a little more raz next batch.

 

[FinallyQuit]

Use that stuff very sparingly! I hear it being diluted in pg, then using the dilution in finished juice.

Search around the terms "TA" or tobacco absolute, you'll return a million results.

Good luck and have fun!

 

[Steven Pye]

The TFA blend is tobacco absolute at 10%- I would take your Tobacco Type Flavor and add it to your base at 4% and add your Tobacco Absolute at 1%-

I would then take this mix and set it aside and let it steep for 1-2 weeks, I think you will be happy with it,

If you are interested in tobacco flavors I would also purchase Flavour Art MTS Vape Wizard and add this at 1% to your mixes also for a grand time.

 

[cocacola31173]

The place I get my juice from offers 236 ml premixed unflavored nic base for 30 dollars. Their flavorings are 15 ml for 3 dollars. I just wonder if this would save me enough money for me to mix this up myself? I don't have a place to really mix all the different components together. and my vendor is Mt Baker Vapor which is really cheap. I just would like to know if its worth the time to mix it this way?

 

[Offensetaken]

Thank you, thank you Steven! I will give that a shot.

Soo about 1% of TA to and tobacco flavor is a good starting point?

Will look into MTS Vale wizard.

 

[Steven Pye]

you are headed towards magic my friend!!!

 

[FinallyQuit]

The place I get my juice from offers 236 ml premixed unflavored nic base for 30 dollars. Their flavorings are 15 ml for 3 dollars. I just wonder if this would save me enough money for me to mix this up myself? I don't have a place to really mix all the different components together. and my vendor is Mt Baker Vapor which is really cheap. I just would like to know if its worth the time to mix it this way?

I don't know if it would save you any money, but it is fun!

 

[DeeDee1234]

I don't know if it would save you any money, but it is fun!

You really don't need that much space. To full on dyi

 

[Myk]

What is your final flavored mg desires? For me 25mg was cutting it too close for comfort to come out to 18mg with some sample recipes.
I'm a newb but I was doing the math and decided on 50mg as my storage cut (from 100mg). After messing around with mixing 100% VG I've decided my next nicotine will be 60mg to directly bottle for storage in the future.

Also if you bottle the storage cut into smaller bottles you won't constantly be taking the big bottle out of the freezer and warming it.

 

[Myk]

I don't know if it would save you any money, but it is fun!

While bottling last night I figured up I spent half my yearly liquid expenses and I have over 5 years of DIY. At savings like that I could have some major screw ups and still come out saving money.

 

[Moogle]

As a beginning DIYer I'd say just go for it. I have had only 1 failure so far and it was me trying to blend flavors with no real idea how it would turn out. I just try recipes I find on this site (10-15ml batches), let it steep 24 hours then try it in a 501 drip atty. If it needs more steeping I leave it alone for a week. Then I take notes, more this, less that, add this. Works pretty well that way. My advise would be get some syringes and pipettes (I'm looking to get some calibrated 1ml glass droppers but plastic pipettes work). Document everything you do as well. I've got enough flavor and PG/VG to last a year and enough Nicotene to last about 3 years. At the prices I paid for it compared with cigs, I'm not worried about dumping 10ml here and there. At any rate, it does get better every batch!

 

[Offensetaken]

What is your final flavored mg desires? For me 25mg was cutting it too close for comfort to come out to 18mg with some sample recipes.
I'm a newb but I was doing the math and decided on 50mg as my storage cut (from 100mg). After messing around with mixing 100% VG I've decided my next nicotine will be 60mg to directly bottle for storage in the future.

Also if you bottle the storage cut into smaller bottles you won't constantly be taking the big bottle out of the freezer and warming it.

I'm wanting my final nic level to right around 18 mg. I mixed up my base at 18 mg and figured adding flavor it may come down to 15% or so depending on amount of flavoring I add.

My next batch or base I will prob mix at 20-22% so I'm closer to 18% mg after flavoring is added.

 

[Offensetaken]

I've read that nic won't freeze if it is in the freezer, it will just stay really cold.

Will this extend the shelf life? Freezer storage better than keeping it in the refrigerator? WL says 12-18 mo. shelf life on nic juice.

 

[subver]

Does plain VG and/or PG freeze? I assume it does not, just like VG/PG/nicotine - just wanna double check!

 

[DeeDee1234]

freezing extends the shelf life, some say indefinitely