A stupid question...help!

[moishesmom]

I was gifted with a beautiful box mod, batteries, charger etc. The batteries are Trustfire protected Lithium ion, 900mah, 3.7 volt. The mod is referred to as 3.7 volt & says it requires one 14500 rechargable protected lithium ion battery - the box has a sealed 510 connector.

The unit works beautifully (especially once I figured out you have to CHARGE the batteries) however, I was wondering if there's a battery that has a longer life since I go at it like a chimney. Also, I have a tank/carto set-up on it using Boge 2.. Would a bigger battery give a warmer vape? Any response would be greatly appreciated!

 

[vsummer1]

I have in my hand an 18490 AW IMR 3.7v 1100 mAh. Looks like it is 200 mAh more than the trustfire, so I would say yes to longer lasting on the AW. The numbers of the battery (18490) refer to measurements of the battery itself, so the 490 and 500 are very close in tolerance. I do think AW sells 18500 though as well. My Efest IMR 14500 3.7v Li-Mn are only 700 mAh.

As for a warmer vape, that would mean a lower resistance on the atty or higher volts to produce more watts. So, next time you buy a Boge you may want to try a LR.

 

[moishesmom]

I have in my hand an 18490 AW IMR 3.7v 1100 mAh. Looks like it is 200 mAh more than the trustfire, so I would say yes to longer lasting on the AW. The numbers of the battery (18490) refer to measurements of the battery itself, so the 490 and 500 are very close in tolerance. I do think AW sells 18500 though as well. My Efest IMR 14500 3.7v Li-Mn are only 700 mAh.

As for a warmer vape, that would mean a lower resistance on the atty or higher volts to produce more watts. So, next time you buy a Boge you may want to try a LR.

Thanks for the quick reply...I was hoping that I'd get that kind of reply. (who's AW?) Since I've only used egos in the past, are the batteries you've mentioned protected? As I'm sure you can tell - I don't know zip about this type of set-up. BTW..My Boges are LR 1.7-2.

 

[vsummer1]

AW IMR are the ones Provape recommends with their products, and what I use on my ProVari. This is from the Provape site, I hope it helps:
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AW IMR Batteries: Ecigarette Batteries, ECig Batteries, Battery 18500

AW IMR Battery: 18500/18490

Looking for ecig batteries that are long-lasting and ultra-durable? Look no further than the AW IMR Ecig Batteries! AW's IMR High Drain rechargeable battery chemistry is well suited for high power applications like in the ProVari

AW batteries are well known for being the best.
You simply can't get a better battery than the AW.

• 1100 mAh
• Nominal Working Voltage: 3.7V
• Peak Voltage: 4.2V
• Dimensions: 18D x 49H mm (+/- 0.5mm)
• Weight: 30 (+/- 2) g

Works with battery: 18500 multichargers and the ProVape charger.

 

[vsummer1]

Here is some information from another site I found very useful in explaining things:
Battery - E-Cigarette Wiki


This is the part that might answer your question:
What is the difference if any between the different battery chemistries?
Lithium Ion (Li Ion) requires a protection circuit for safety, whilst Lithium Iron Phosphate (LifePo4) and Lithium Manganese (LiMn or IMR) use safe chemistry. Although these batteries utilize safer chemistry, protection circuits are generally recommended. The safer chemistry will prevent venting with flames in the event of a catastrophic failure, whilst LI Ion batteries contain and oxidizer, which produces its own oxygen to support combustion, should sufficient heat be available at the source.

 

[gimmieshelter31]

Before buying new batteries , consider the width of the battery and whether a fatter one will fit in the space allotted in your box mod.
As vsummer1 stated, the 14500 batteries are 14 millimeters wide and 50 millimeters long . The 18490/18500 are 18 millimeters wide and may not fit in your box. Higher milli-amp hours (mAh) ratings should give a longer time between charges. As stated above lower resistance OR higher voltage will give a warmer vape .The drawback is to lower your resistance would decrease vape time as it requires the battery to drain faster.

As lithium -ion batteries are cycled (charged-drained-recharged), the duration of usable charge shortens. I didn't see where you stated if this kit was given to you new or used. Either way a great gift,but if used you may just need fresh 14500 batteries. If new , you may just need to get a few more to have on hand to charge and replace as needed.

 

[moishesmom]

Summer & Shelter - The 2 of you are fantastic! Thank you sooo much. The mod is brand new (really pretty wood job) along with a Trustfire charger (2 battery capacity) & the batteries were packaged & new. The batteries are Trustfire TF 14500 3.7V Li-ion. I guess I could take the mod with me; there's a battery plus or batteries & more (forgot their name) to see if a larger battery would fit but I'm scared to death of having something blow up on me.

Life was so simple with an ego 1000.....all these numbers & ratios are mind-blowing to me. Oh - the battery description also states 14mm across & 52.5mm tall.

 

[gimmieshelter31]

Well there is a little wiggle room on length . Some batteries in each size specification will very in length due to the protective ones having a small circuit board under the wrapper(usually on the negative end) that provides the protection. 2-3 millimeter longer usually is ok due to the leeway of the spring .If your box mod calls for 14500's I think it best to stay with those .

If your mod is unregulated (it probably is unregulated) it is probably not a good idea to use IMR type batteries. It is very important not to over-discharge lithium batteries . Protected batteries ,when functioning properly do not allow over discharge.

To help with some of your confusion , look at your box mod as a 900 mAh ego with a different form factor .The ego is similiar,just a different dress on ,lol. Instead of putting the whole unit on the charger, you just replace the battery and keep on vaping. No need to have multiple egos,just need spare batteries.
You can probably tell when you are getting to the end of the battery charge as the vapor starts getting noticeably weaker. Put another battery in at that time.

Again I don't recommend IMR batteries in your box mod . I'm concerned ,due your newness to mods and current lack of thorough understanding of lithium battery differences stick with protected and for now, stick to the size recommended for your particular mod.

Get to know your mod. Read what you can about lithium batteries. Learn what mAh is,and how resistance plus voltage affect vape output.
Ask questions and learn . Don't feel overwhelmed. We all start at the beginning of whatever our interest is. After you have lived with and enjoyed your box mod for awhile ,you may realize there are more features that interest you. Longer battery life, regulated output,variable voltage . variable wattage. There is plenty of time for all that . Again,enjoy your mod. Get to know it . Ask any questions you need to.Post them here or feel free to PM me . I'll help however I can. Most of all....vape.

 

[moishesmom]

Well there is a little wiggle room on length . Some batteries in each size specification will very in length due to the protective ones having a small circuit board under the wrapper(usually on the negative end) that provides the protection. 2-3 millimeter longer usually is ok due to the leeway of the spring .If your box mod calls for 14500's I think it best to stay with those .

If your mod is unregulated (it probably is unregulated) it is probably not a good idea to use IMR type batteries. It is very important not to over-discharge lithium batteries . Protected batteries ,when functioning properly do not allow over discharge.

To help with some of your confusion , look at your box mod as a 900 mAh ego with a different form factor .The ego is similiar,just a different dress on ,lol. Instead of putting the whole unit on the charger, you just replace the battery and keep on vaping. No need to have multiple egos,just need spare batteries.
You can probably tell when you are getting to the end of the battery charge as the vapor starts getting noticeably weaker. Put another battery in at that time.

Again I don't recommend IMR batteries in your box mod . I'm concerned ,due your newness to mods and current lack of thorough understanding of lithium battery differences stick with protected and for now, stick to the size recommended for your particular mod.

Get to know your mod. Read what you can about lithium batteries. Learn what mAh is,and how resistance plus voltage affect vape output.
Ask questions and learn . Don't feel overwhelmed. We all start at the beginning of whatever our interest is. After you have lived with and enjoyed your box mod for awhile ,you may realize there are more features that interest you. Longer battery life, regulated output,variable voltage . variable wattage. There is plenty of time for all that . Again,enjoy your mod. Get to know it . Ask any questions you need to.Post them here or feel free to PM me . I'll help however I can. Most of all....vape.

Shelter....YOU'RE WONDERFUL! You've answered everything which had me so concerned. I will stick with the battery you suggested & just pick up a few more of them. I honestly don't feel that I'll ever be in the Provari league even tho I would prefer a warmer vape, I am aware that if I go into a lower resistance cart, there's goes the battery time, so that's a no win situation for me.

Shelter, thank you for all the time you took to help, you have no idea how grateful I am!!

 

[gimmieshelter31]

moishesmom,
I'm glad I could help you even if only a little . Having a enough charged batteries available is all you really need to go to lower voltage. Try a little lower carto and see how it works for you. Not a big deal to change out a battery unless you suffer from arthritis .If so, I could see why you would want to minimize battery changes. If the warmer vapor is much more satisfying, it may well be worth the more frequent battery switches.