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purchased a Ego C twist, its the intermediate I think. one pack a day cigarette smoker. started my ecig Saturday. I only got by mistake 3 bottles low nicotine. 6mg I think it said. All day today a major headache. I think I not getting enough nicotine. I reordered 12 mg. 1st question, do you think this low nicotine e liquid causing the headache 2nd question: I don't understand yet if I supposed to be inhaling. I got the slow draw down, not a problem, but I not sure after reading something on here if I supposed to eventually inhale or if better for nicotine consumption to hold in mouth? and let out of mouth or nose.
thanks, please have patience with me. :glare:
 

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the headache may be from the low nic, or it may be from you getting dehydrated (vaping will dehydrate you - drink more water (not pop or coffee)) or it may be an issue with the pg/vg blend. what brand and pg/vg level did you order?

The nicotine absorption is mainly through the mouth and mucous membrane but most everyone can't get over doing the lung hits.

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I'm a new user too, about 3 months in. I'm kind of a fast-burner and am already experimenting with rebuildable atomizers and today made my first DIY liquid (Banana Nut Bread, 10mg). At this point the best noob to noob advice I can give you is stick with it. If you have to supplement with analogs while you wait for your stronger liquid so be it, but don't give up! I'm no doctor, but your headaches could be related to withdrawals, everyone's experience differs at least slightly. As far as draw/inhaling techniques, experiment and see what is most enjoyable to you. My favored methods have been evolving with the type of gear I am using. The technique for my most satisfying vape differs depending on whether I'm using a tank or a cartomizer or a dripper. Also, keep researching the forums. I have found a wealth of knowledge here, particularly safety information. Don't start playing with removable batteries, building coils, or DIY juices without heavy research first, because with those things, mistakes can hurt you. Again, stick with it, and good luck!
 
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thanks Jim. I am a heavy water drinker, due to thirst after cigarettes. Now that I think about it though with no cigs, not so much. I purchased from altsmoke.com their alt liquid USA low. I am new remember. I know it said 6 mg. I wish I could of more help in order for you to help me. Thanks for your time though. I am 55 now and really want this to work. I have been ok with the ecig as far as nerves not bad or not grouchy, but today is only Tues. only the severe headache today, all day. I have found a whole new world though with you people!!!!!! and am happy to find it.
 

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Dehydration from the pg and vg in the e-liquid. Drink plenty of water to compensate.

Not only are you withdrawing from tobacco smoke, but also all the other chemicals present in cigarettes.

As others have stated above, the nicotine in vapor is absorbed in the mouth and nasal passageways. A mouth inhale using one's cheeks (imagine sucking on a straw in a thick milkshake), holding it there for a second, and then inhaling into the lungs. Exhale through both the mouth and the nose. This will insure you benefit from all of your vapor's flavor, as your sense of smell adjuncts your sense of taste.
 

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Another quick tip, since you already have some seemingly too low nic liquid, next time you order get some stronger than you think you need of a flavor you like and you can boost the 6mg by mixing if you're ok with basic math. Equal parts of 6 and something else will give you the average of the two. For example, if you mix 24 with the 6 (equal amounts) the math works like this:

6 + 24 = 30
30/2 = 15mg/ml

Forgive me if that insults your intelligence, just trying to keep it simple as possible.
 

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My first day vaping I got a little dizzy and didn't feel so good but I was hitting the vape pretty hard all day. I still supplemented my vaping with the occasional cig until I finished my pack, probably about 2 or 3 regular cigs a day. Now it has been over 3 months and only took a couple hits off of a friends cig in that time but it tasted like ....

Maybe you should start off slow and up your nicotine and maybe even an occasional cig until your more comfortable, that worked for me. It also helps if you find some juice flavors that you really like, I started off with some crap juices and until a friend turned me on to the good ones I might have quite vaping.

Good luck and keep at it, you really will feel better and regular cigs will be disgusting after time.
 

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im a newbie and havent bought mine yet, im so confused i looked on ebay and amazon and its kind of a bit too much to take in not sure what i need i normally smoke around 20 full strength cigs a day but really want to try and quit this year, i have tried before as most people probably have and just couldnt do it now ive set my mind to it and seen the ego vapour stick things (sorry dont know the real name for them) i have tried the elites the ones that look like cigarettes but they tasted awful and i just couldnt use them. Anyone able to give me a little heads up as to where to start which vapour machines are best thanks
 

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im a newbie and havent bought mine yet, im so confused i looked on ebay and amazon and its kind of a bit too much to take in not sure what i need i normally smoke around 20 full strength cigs a day but really want to try and quit this year, i have tried before as most people probably have and just couldnt do it now ive set my mind to it and seen the ego vapour stick things (sorry dont know the real name for them) i have tried the elites the ones that look like cigarettes but they tasted awful and i just couldnt use them. Anyone able to give me a little heads up as to where to start which vapour machines are best thanks

I'm pretty new myself, but this kit was highly recommended by folks on this board for newbies. Here is a link to a youtube review of it. I think you can find it for sale online at lots of places for about $40.00. By the time I found this, I had already purchased something very similar at a local vape shop, but I paid more for it. Check it out:

Kanger EVOD Starter Kit Review - YouTube
 

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I second the dehydration/withdrawls suggestion. I am always drinking water now. Stick with it. You got this. My PV didn't leave my hand unless I was sleeping for the first 7 days I quit analogs. Now, I just vape when I want and all of the headaches went away. For me, I had a bad cough for about a month. I was almost convinced it was the vaping until one day, it all magically disappeared. I am no doctor so this advice is just from experiance. Happy vaping and good luck!
 

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purchased a Ego C twist, its the intermediate I think. one pack a day cigarette smoker. started my ecig Saturday. I only got by mistake 3 bottles low nicotine. 6mg I think it said. All day today a major headache. I think I not getting enough nicotine. I reordered 12 mg. 1st question, do you think this low nicotine e liquid causing the headache 2nd question: I don't understand yet if I supposed to be inhaling. I got the slow draw down, not a problem, but I not sure after reading something on here if I supposed to eventually inhale or if better for nicotine consumption to hold in mouth? and let out of mouth or nose.
thanks, please have patience with me. :glare:

Pg gave me a headache when I first started out. Along with not drinking enough water.

Now I can tolerate it :)
 

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I started on the 1st with 18 mg which might have been giving me a headache. Switched to 12 mg and life is grand headache wise. Do have a runny nose & sneezing issue that I need to narrow down to pg, vg, or a relentless head cold but I'll get that worked out too. I think your headache will get better when you get your nic sorted out. Hang in there until you get your new supply.

The folks who recommend more water couldn't be more right. It really helps more than you think.
 

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I think the most important thing to remember when you start vaping is when you feel the need to smoke a cigarette then do it and don't get down on yourself for doing so.

Look at how many you don't smoke in the beginning, not how many you do.

I was a PAD (pack a day) Red smoker and started with 36mg e-liquid, 6mg is way too low in the beginning IMO. I would start with a small bottle of 24mg 100% PG and a small bottle of 24mg 100% VG and only vape one or the other to see if one is causing your headaches.

Best of luck on your smoke free journey, let us know how it turns out or if you have more questions.
 
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I think the most important thing to remember when you start vaping is when you feel the need to smoke a cigarette then do it and don't get down on yourself for doing so.

Look at how many you don't smoke in the beginning, not how many you do.

I was a PAD (pack a day) Red smoker and started with 36mg e-liquid, 6mg is way too low in the beginning IMO. I would start with a small bottle of 24mg 100% PG and a small bottle of 24mg 100% VG and only vape one or the other to see if one is causing your headaches.

Best of luck on your smoke free journey, let us know how it turns out or if you have more questions.

You've made some great observations for a newb here and elsewhere. Congratz. I was a half-pack a day myself, between lights and other stronger, and I struggled with finding a flavor that worked and those damned vivi nova's. Like a great remark above…they tasted like wet soggy sneakers to me after the wick's had been exposed to air and the tank unused for a few hours. Cause I found I overheated one or two tanks to the point of flooding too easily, I ended up with a rotation of devices within the first week. That helped tremendously but as you've seen all 510 devices are quirky and demanding. That's why I'm trying to help people get through this acclimation process and gain skills quickly, so they can see how much more rewarding this is than analogs or even fine tobacco.

Now, on to cheap juice for newb's...

To your point, some of us can't immediately handle higher nic levels or feel they need to cut down right away. Soon though most of us go through a phase where we need to go higher to 18 mil or more when we discover it's not enough. Then eventually we gradually come back down again. Regardless, finding the right juice to satisfy during all of this is hard…and with all these changes in flavor and nic preferences can get rather expensive!

I found Johnson Creek makes the juice for the Blu, specifically their 100% VG Tenn. Cured product which while not exactly a Marlboro came close enough to pass as a smoke. But I had to find a mild honey flue to blend and knock down the intensity. I'm flavor sensitive. Point being though, this can save folks some money! That is, using an inexpensive alternate base to bring down either flavor intensity or nic levels. I was also slightly sensitive to PG and had to acclimate to that. These days I use 6% PG for a slight antiseptic effect and to assist with the viscosity of dense juices.

Early on I started mixing down strong flavors with pure VG USP 95.5% (do your research) and ordering good RY4's at 24nic or higher, preferring sources that let me select nic and flavor drop levels. Mixing down as I needed to hit nic and flavor objectives. This gave me a great flexibility and saved both time and money allowing me to vape comfortably with full tanks in various devices. This gave me the sense that I had actually sampled the product. That it wasn't a fluke or temporary result.

Among a great many such sources for selectability are Mount Baker and The Vapor Room, the latter being a great source for their tobacco RY4's. Like I said though, flavor drop and nic level options. And 24mg was a good starting point. Higher might be better for some and mix down from there with VG/PG or other base.

Just an idea some of you may benefit from in time and cash better spent on hardware. Improving on that last part, delivery, getting beyond the eGo and customizing vaporization, as you've discovered, is what gets us to the point of really enjoying vaping in the long run…and surviving this!

Good luck all!

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