A word of safety to all mechanical users

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Whether you are using a rebuild able or a changeable coil system on your mech, check your resistance and know the signs of a short. If your mod gets hot at any time, put it down quickly and allow it to cool then dispose of the battery and fix the short.
I recently experienced my first hard short. I was using an iclear 30 and it nearly melted down a Sony 30 amp battery. It measures at 2.4ohm but shorts on a mod. The mod got hot and the battery so hot it melted the wrapper.
JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE USING PREBUILT FACTORY COILS AND YOUR MEASURING A SAFE RESISTANCE DOES NOT MEA YOU ARE SAFE. KNOW THE SIGNS OF A HARD SHORT AND DO NOT USE BATTERIES THAT HAVE BEEN SHORTED.

​have a safe holiday everyone!
 

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Does that make me stupid? :)

Well, let me answer you with another question: as someone who knows a little something about electricity, would you have a house without circuit breakers?

If you're an electronics engineer, I'm appalled that you should find it an acceptable risk to use a high-amp current source without one, let alone 8.
 

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And this post, my friends, demonstrates why mechs are just plain dumb.

Use an electronic device. Be smart. We're in 2014, it's not the 19th century...
Thanks for your opinion. I'm old school, I like my gear to be reliable. I'll skip all them fancy electronics and take a mech please.
 

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And this post, my friends, demonstrates why mechs are just plain dumb.

Use an electronic device. Be smart. We're in 2014, it's not the 19th century...

Because electronic devices never fail or start fires............

Why leave the house? Might get hit by a car. Don't shower you might slip and die. Any physical hobby is out of the question because it can be inherently dangerous.

You are entitled to your opinion but making blanket statements make you appear ill informed at best.


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Thanks for your opinion. I'm old school, I like my gear to be reliable. I'll skip all them fancy electronics and take a mech please.

Interesting what you say, because I have a good dozen mods here, ranging from cheap eGo's to expensive bottom feeders, and not one of them has failed on me because of the eletronics. The only failures I've had were mechanical (buttons, topper threads... that sort of things) due to shoddy Chinese workmanship. Similarly, I don't know any regulated mod user who's ever seen the electronics in their devices fail. Have you?

On the other hand, I hear of a lot of people melting springs and damaging batteries in mechs...
 

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id just like to point out that one should probably notice the lack of vapor well before getting the battery hot enough to melt heatshrink

I noticed the heat through the mod after pressing the switch less than half a second. Frying a 30 amp cell in that time is a complete dead short. That atomizer went straight in the trash. Funny enough I've never had any trouble with my builds, only this commercial coil. I'm just writing to warn other vapers that just because its premade doesn't mean its safe
 

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And this post, my friends, demonstrates why mechs are just plain dumb.

Use an electronic device. Be smart. We're in 2014, it's not the 19th century...

Genius in our midst?

Likely as many or more users of Regulated Mods have serious issues from time to time. I know, I've helped enough. :glare:

OMG All flashlights should have a Micro processor :blink: :lol:

Personally I find some of these post funny.
I use a Multimeter and/or tester for all my builds - even head swaps in BCC's
Coils do not magically short, Homemade or commercial built! Shorts are caused. Checking and confirming finished work avoids surprises.

Hard to believe a .5 second short would kill an IMR - 5 Seconds maybe, but .5.......Hmmmmm
 
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And this post, my friends, demonstrates why mechs are just plain dumb.

Use an electronic device. Be smart. We're in 2014, it's not the 19th century...

You just called a whole lot of people here dumb. Great way to influence people :thumb:

I believe most battery venting incidents occur with mechanical mods, but most explosions and fires occur with electronic mods. Regulated mod choice has a big bearing on this also.

Vape safe :)
 

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I noticed the heat through the mod after pressing the switch less than half a second. Frying a 30 amp cell in that time is a complete dead short. That atomizer went straight in the trash. Funny enough I've never had any trouble with my builds, only this commercial coil. I'm just writing to warn other vapers that just because its premade doesn't mean its safe

It is a very good lesson inanitydefined and thanks for posting about it. People are always talking about running low resistance set ups and the dangers in doing that. IMO not enough people talk about shorts.

The only time I hard shorted a Li-ion cell was on the bench. It was a MNKE 18650 and I also shorted it for around 1/2 second. It was not long enough for it to get noticeably hot and it did no damage to the cell. I had two of them and they both suffered the same amount of voltage drop under load as they aged.

Was your battery a VTC5?
 

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or the arcing that's happening as the switch makes contanct

The only device I have in which I can see the switch arc is my Reo and only when I have the door off and am looking at the switch contact. It always arcs, but I typically have a 0.4 - 0.5 ohm atty on it. You won't be able to see arcing in a tube mod.

IMO lack of vapor and heat buildup are the key early warning signs to watch for. It has happened to me that a mechanical mod has not fired. I do not then just hit it a second time and I do not hold the switch on longer to see if it will start working. If it could be because of a short, I check that first and then continue to troubleshoot.
 

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Interesting what you say, because I have a good dozen mods here, ranging from cheap eGo's to expensive bottom feeders, and not one of them has failed on me because of the eletronics. The only failures I've had were mechanical (buttons, topper threads... that sort of things) due to shoddy Chinese workmanship. Similarly, I don't know any regulated mod user who's ever seen the electronics in their devices fail. Have you?

On the other hand, I hear of a lot of people melting springs and damaging batteries in mechs...

I think if you really did some research you would find that most of the "exploding battery" stories are related to ego's. I'll take a thermal runaway or a melted spring over an explosion any day. But to each their own I suppose. I use both myself. Regulated devices are great for those higher ohm builds. Mechs are perfect for sub ohming. I'm sure I know your opinion on that already! Lol
 
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