Absolute best RDA?! Money not issue if it's worth it!
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I know you said something about price being no object, but honestly I cannot see the value in spending $100 on a chunk of stainless steel for vaping. I have several Igo atomizers and for $100 I can have one set up for every one of my favorite juices. Just one person's opinion, but much like anything else (flashlights, knives, audio, guns, etc) the law of diminishing returns comes into play. Is a $100 atomizer really ten times better than a ten dollar atomizer? I would argue no. Maybe the machining is better, or it has a unique look. Of course there is pride of ownership. But for vaping, well, you'll never convince me that any atomizer is worth more than 25 bucks, no matter how shiny it is, or the logo etched into the side.
Now, having said that, I do own a bottom feed Cyclone for my Reo grand, but there are very limited options due to size constraints, and the difficulty of even finding a decent, 14mm bottom feeder.
For straight top-feed dripping on a tube mod - give me an Igo all day.
I used to think this way and I had 5 igo-w's going at once. Now I have none. Why? Because now I buy authentic high end atomizers. Why ? Well..
I tried the patriot and nimbus clones because they were similar to igo-w's in design. They weren't much different. Then I tried air flow control atomizers like the helios and trident clones.
After realizing there was a difference in vape quality, flavor, and production simply because of the afc options, I was pretty sold on afc. I also discovered that different platforms allowed different builds. For example, the helios has tall posts with 4 holes for easy duals and quads. The trident is very shallow. Different builds with different air flow openings, different juice, and different moods made for infinite options.
Being satisfied with my clones for a while, I then wanted to try an authentic atomizer that really wasn't cloned. I looked at the stillare, quasar, zenith and brass monkee. There may be similar designs which are clones but by now, I knew there were serious differences in chamber size, post position and height, and airflow control options.
I ended up with the stillare. Yes it's an expensive piece of stainless steel but it's not like any other atomizer due to the afc, fit and finish, and chamber size/post placement. I used this for a while before noticing the bigger chamber was hindering flavor.
Then I ended up with a zenith v2. Smaller chamber and delrin insulator made for a warmer , more flavorful vape.
Sorry for the novel. Basically,you have to be a vape enthusiast. If you just want to get your nicotine and that's that, then high end stuff isn't for you. If you are an enthusiast but still don't get it , you may never. To me though, and everything is personal opinion, it's not always about exclusivity and rarity. It's about getting a vape experience that cannot be had with any build in a low end, mass produced atomizer. To prove this even further, I use the same .32 6 wrap of 26 gauge dual coils in every one of my atomizers in rotation (trident v1 clone, stillare v2, and zenith v2) and there is a clear difference in flavor and vapor between all three.
I just got in IGO 4 just to try out dripping. Been using tanks, and my favorite has been my Kayfun Lite + on my Nemesis. Just for the heck of it, I built a .5 ohm double coil, and fired it up on the Nemmy, and it liked to kick my ....! Too strong for me. But the flavor was so much greater than even the Kayfun provides. I think I might like dripping. Going to rebuild to around 1 ohm and try a different juice. When I get this down pretty good, I'll be looking at some of those on your list. It's a little more work, but drippers are flavor machines!
+1 Origen v2 for all the reasons already listed. Super deep well and awesome flavor. I only wish the stock air holes were little larger. I'm more into flavor but sometimes I'd like a bit more airflow for some builds
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Check out reviews & pics of many of the RDA's already mentioned and go from there with your preferences. I've watched several reviews on all of them and own two on the list. For the most part people seem really happy with these. You can't go wrong purchasing one of these as authentic.
- Quasar
- Magma
- Origen V1/V2
-Zenith V2
- Atomic
- Yaeliq (really limited supply AFAIK)
- TOBH ( been readin good things about this one)
- Quasar
- Magma
- Origen V1/V2
-Zenith V2
- Atomic
- Yaeliq (really limited supply AFAIK)
- TOBH ( been readin good things about this one)
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I understand, which is why I stated in my original post that it was one person's opinion.
My opinion will always be that, for me, there will never be a compelling reason to buy a $150 atomizer, ever. I've read THOUSANDS of threads at high end audio forums where people with "golden ears" could actually "hear" a difference between 10 dollar Radio Shack interconnect cables and boutique cables costing in the hundreds or thousands. I call BS. I've read threads where people claim that changing a amplifier power cord made a huge difference in sound. Again, I am skeptical. Regardless, I will never be convinced that spending 1400 bucks on a power cord will make any difference. Similarly, I will never be convinced that a $150 atomizer is worth the money. Maybe you have "golden taste buds".
Call me a terminal novice, I guess.
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The continuity is just sick ! I love mine, and I own a lot of RDA's. Authentic's and clones.
so many great drippers out now! I have an Origen and an Atomic, trying to figure out which will be the next in my collection. i'm thinking either the Stillare or Brass Monkey.... just dunno.
This kind of thing could go on and on. One person says that if it's expensive and high end, it's gotta be worth it where the other person says that the cheaper can work just as well. To each their own. I'm not one to force my opinions on anybody because I hate when it's done to me.
I personally believe there is a difference. I vape about 15mls a day sometimes also. Maybe that has something to do with it....
Got my first RDA too, which also is the igo-w5. LOVE it. By far my favorite delivery device, next to the kayfun lite clone I have from EHpro.
I highly recommend the igo-w5 for anyone starting out.
Money is usually not the biggest problem in a good high end atty, its more availability than anything else.
IMHO, Best RDA for flavor, and best RDA for Vapor doesn't always come in one package. Blend the two together and you will always find something else that will beat one aspect over another. Add to that equation juice capacity, ease of building, aesthetics, etc... and your quest for the best might never satisfy
IMHO, Best RDA for flavor, and best RDA for Vapor doesn't always come in one package. Blend the two together and you will always find something else that will beat one aspect over another. Add to that equation juice capacity, ease of building, aesthetics, etc... and your quest for the best might never satisfy
Another that I like is the Flawless Tugboat, got two, one each on a brass and copper Vanilla, deep juice well, and easy deck to build on, price aint bad either, got for under 80 each.
I'm sure by now you've already figured out exactly what you want and have bought it brother lol, but in case your still soul-searching, I think I can help because we sound exactly alike in our vape. Let me guess; your a strict dual coiler, and want huge vapor fast, without sacrificing too much flavor, you'd like a good looking stainless steel RDA that is very capable and will let you do everything from tiny airflow to massive 1/8th" for sub-ohm/really hot cloud coils, and generally just want something that will keep you staying on top of the game. You don't mind a warm vape, but are usually happier with the vapor when it's cooler with big airflow, and maybe want a dripper that's more than your average tri-post with a metal can over it?
I may be horribly wrong, but in case your like me I'm positive you'll like:
The Tobh Atty~ ($80 authentic, also Tobeco has an excellent clone which is basically identical) Basically my favorite right now, everything about the design of this dripper is meant to produce the most hellacious vape possible. From the top down: It's got finely crafted heat-sinks (that actually dissipate heat and can feel them working), the ceiling of the top cap is a dome to aid in better vapor flow, while at the same time reducing the chamber to an almost small size (making it a great flavor/density machine). It's got black-oxidized screws which stay cleaner, are stronger so they don't strip as easy, aid in conduction, and are meant to take abuse. The center post is raised so that you can insert your coils without bending them inward (the higher leg on one side will go in the raised center post, and the lower leg will go in the lower negative), makes installing coils super tidy and neat. The negative posts are welded, and never move when your tugging hard on your coils and fixing them, also aiding in conductivity. The post holes are huge, they can fit dual 20ga, and the center post (which usually holds 2 wires) is larger than the negatives (which usually hold 1), so they are proportional, and cuts down on unnecessary bending when tightening down. The drip well is really really deep, I often "flood" it on purpose, because the coils and airflow stay perfectly above the "puddle" of juice it creates, almost like an origen style drip well. The floor has a unique machine line design that looks cool, and probably helps with juice flow (maybe, still looks cool lol), and the insulators in the 510 post are "PEEK" medical grade insulators rated up to 480deg. F, so even if you do dry-burn for 1 minute straight while inhaling, you won't get any toxic fumes (all components are rated 480 and up, for cloud chasing/sub-ohming). The AFC sleeve has 6 total 1/16th" holes, 3 on each side, and combined they have massive possible airflow of 3, 1/8th" airflow! It's huge, no need to drill whatsoever, and you can also close them off with the "teeth" (which I removed to do center post builds, because I always have it wide open anyway, I also drilled 2 extra 1/16" holes for a total combined of 1/2" airflow, huge vapor). The top cap easy to remove to look at your build every-time you drip, it's just as easy as removed your drip tip, and you can see what's going on, let alone not having to aim your juice through the drip tip hole. The entire atty is beautifully made, and out of conductive 303 stainless steel, with solid copper contacts. It's threads are so nice you can flick them on your mod and it spins to the bottom. Whoo I typed alot! It's that good though lol.
The Brass Monkee~ ($80 by Standard Functions, don't get the clones, they suck.) I love this atty because it's well made, hassle free, and soooooo easy to build on. It's got the beautiful dual ("T-post") positive post, so your duals don't have to share one screw, they get their own and make perfectly even connection every time. It's also got the perfect medium sized chamber, and big airflow, making for a big, dense and often warm vape. The flavor on this is noticeable like the Tobh. It's got the same big size airflow as the Tobh stock (I drilled mine so the lined up holes, were turned into one cyclops slot, and it really made it a vapor machine, even though it was already), and silver contacts for great conductivity to that awesome T-post (which can hold dual 22ga btw, and can quad build 24ga easy). It's really quality made, thick as hell so it holds heat great, it's AFC ring is perfect, it's just the right amount of resistance when adjusting, and then when you screw-down the cap, it's locked in place no matter what. It's a builders dream, and a dense, flavorful fog machine.
The Dominator X LE~ (125$ from Qoppa atomizers, is tied with the Tobh for first, honestly probably my ultimate favorite) Make sure you get the limited edition because the original dominator has a "push and shoot" style that doesn't grip thicker than 28ga wire very well, instead it has alan key posts. It's the most intricate, beautifully designed & machined RDA on the planet in my opinion. It's round, angular at the same time, has heat sinks that work, massive 4mm airflow (x2 for dual 8mm total) stock, probably the only RDA I've never drilled because it's overkill. It makes clouds the easiest of any RDA I've ever had, the Tobh can keep up but I have to try harder if that makes sense. It's got a fairly large chamber,but you can turn the airflow down to 2 or 3mm if you want to make up for that in flavor, and the deck has an awesome conical design not used on any other RDA I've seen, it's like an upsided down "U", makes a perfect puddle of juice for your coils when you drip. It's the priciest dripper I've ever bought, but more than worth the money, I have the copper version, and it literally does everything. I haven't need to drill the cap, posts, or alter anything either. It just works exceptionally well, It's got a solid silver center post which goes directly through the positive coil legs, the negative posts have solid copper shafts holding them in place (and you can unscrew them to clean/replace if need be). I honestly think it's the most underrated topper in history, everyone should try it in my opinion, I'd go with this one if your willing to bear the wallet hurt
.I typed way to much brother, hope this helps, I'm almost 100% positive any dual coiling vaper will love any of these 3 RDA's, because they're all so adjustable, and to the extremes as well. If your going for ease and convenience, go with the brass monkee. If your looking for ultimate performance/build quality, go with the Dominator X, if your looking for an awesome balance of the two, the Tobh is your guy, you can't go wrong! Cheers, vape'em if you got'em!
The Stillare isn't bad either, I honestly only own the Infinite clone, but I can't see it being much better by Cartel, I thoroughly trust and appreciate Infinite's quality, they're the only clone company that can compete with the genuines, but I wouldn't mind having a genuine V1 (for the silver instead of gold posts). Super huge airflow, almost as good conductivity as the Dominator which is saying something, amazing looks and build quality, really thick walls/topcap, just a great, simple RDA that'll do exactly what you want it to do. I'd say my only grip with it (as well as others), is if you don't buy their Cartel drip tip, then the "spit back" protector lip ironically builds up juice, and ends up in your mouth if your an aggresive lung-inhaler
. Not a big deal whatsoever, because you can actually fix that with an extra o-ring below the DT, or even better do what I did, and take a 5/16th" drill bit to it, and bore it out. It made for clearer vapor anyway . Good luck, vape on!
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That's a nice set of atties, in particular the Dominator X. Might have to try hunting one of those down!I'm sure by now you've already figured out exactly what you want and have bought it brother lol, but in case your still soul-searching, I think I can help because we sound exactly alike in our vape. Let me guess; your a strict dual coiler, and want huge vapor fast, without sacrificing too much flavor, you'd like a good looking stainless steel RDA that is very capable and will let you do everything from tiny airflow to massive 1/8th" for sub-ohm/really hot cloud coils, and generally just want something that will keep you staying on top of the game. You don't mind a warm vape, but are usually happier with the vapor when it's cooler with big airflow, and maybe want a dripper that's more than your average tri-post with a metal can over it?
I may be horribly wrong, but in case your like me I'm positive you'll like:
The Tobh Atty~ ($80 authentic, also Tobeco has an excellent clone which is basically identical) Basically my favorite right now, everything about the design of this dripper is meant to produce the most hellacious vape possible. From the top down: It's got finely crafted heat-sinks (that actually dissipate heat and can feel them working), the ceiling of the top cap is a dome to aid in better vapor flow, while at the same time reducing the chamber to an almost small size (making it a great flavor/density machine). It's got black-oxidized screws which stay cleaner, are stronger so they don't strip as easy, aid in conduction, and are meant to take abuse. The center post is raised so that you can insert your coils without bending them inward (the higher leg on one side will go in the raised center post, and the lower leg will go in the lower negative), makes installing coils super tidy and neat. The negative posts are welded, and never move when your tugging hard on your coils and fixing them, also aiding in conductivity. The post holes are huge, they can fit dual 20ga, and the center post (which usually holds 2 wires) is larger than the negatives (which usually hold 1), so they are proportional, and cuts down on unnecessary bending when tightening down. The drip well is really really deep, I often "flood" it on purpose, because the coils and airflow stay perfectly above the "puddle" of juice it creates, almost like an origen style drip well. The floor has a unique machine line design that looks cool, and probably helps with juice flow (maybe, still looks cool lol), and the insulators in the 510 post are "PEEK" medical grade insulators rated up to 480deg. F, so even if you do dry-burn for 1 minute straight while inhaling, you won't get any toxic fumes (all components are rated 480 and up, for cloud chasing/sub-ohming). The AFC sleeve has 6 total 1/16th" holes, 3 on each side, and combined they have massive possible airflow of 3, 1/8th" airflow! It's huge, no need to drill whatsoever, and you can also close them off with the "teeth" (which I removed to do center post builds, because I always have it wide open anyway, I also drilled 2 extra 1/16" holes for a total combined of 1/2" airflow, huge vapor). The top cap easy to remove to look at your build every-time you drip, it's just as easy as removed your drip tip, and you can see what's going on, let alone not having to aim your juice through the drip tip hole. The entire atty is beautifully made, and out of conductive 303 stainless steel, with solid copper contacts. It's threads are so nice you can flick them on your mod and it spins to the bottom. Whoo I typed alot! It's that good though lol.
The Brass Monkee~ ($80 by Standard Functions, don't get the clones, they suck.) I love this atty because it's well made, hassle free, and soooooo easy to build on. It's got the beautiful dual ("T-post") positive post, so your duals don't have to share one screw, they get their own and make perfectly even connection every time. It's also got the perfect medium sized chamber, and big airflow, making for a big, dense and often warm vape. The flavor on this is noticeable like the Tobh. It's got the same big size airflow as the Tobh stock (I drilled mine so the lined up holes, were turned into one cyclops slot, and it really made it a vapor machine, even though it was already), and silver contacts for great conductivity to that awesome T-post (which can hold dual 22ga btw, and can quad build 24ga easy). It's really quality made, thick as hell so it holds heat great, it's AFC ring is perfect, it's just the right amount of resistance when adjusting, and then when you screw-down the cap, it's locked in place no matter what. It's a builders dream, and a dense, flavorful fog machine.
The Dominator X LE~ (125$ from Qoppa atomizers, is tied with the Tobh for first, honestly probably my ultimate favorite) Make sure you get the limited edition because the original dominator has a "push and shoot" style that doesn't grip thicker than 28ga wire very well, instead it has alan key posts. It's the most intricate, beautifully designed & machined RDA on the planet in my opinion. It's round, angular at the same time, has heat sinks that work, massive 4mm airflow (x2 for dual 8mm total) stock, probably the only RDA I've never drilled because it's overkill. It makes clouds the easiest of any RDA I've ever had, the Tobh can keep up but I have to try harder if that makes sense. It's got a fairly large chamber,but you can turn the airflow down to 2 or 3mm if you want to make up for that in flavor, and the deck has an awesome conical design not used on any other RDA I've seen, it's like an upsided down "U", makes a perfect puddle of juice for your coils when you drip. It's the priciest dripper I've ever bought, but more than worth the money, I have the copper version, and it literally does everything. I haven't need to drill the cap, posts, or alter anything either. It just works exceptionally well, It's got a solid silver center post which goes directly through the positive coil legs, the negative posts have solid copper shafts holding them in place (and you can unscrew them to clean/replace if need be). I honestly think it's the most underrated topper in history, everyone should try it in my opinion, I'd go with this one if your willing to bear the wallet hurt
I typed way to much brother, hope this helps, I'm almost 100% positive any dual coiling vaper will love any of these 3 RDA's, because they're all so adjustable, and to the extremes as well. If your going for ease and convenience, go with the brass monkee. If your looking for ultimate performance/build quality, go with the Dominator X, if your looking for an awesome balance of the two, the Tobh is your guy, you can't go wrong! Cheers, vape'em if you got'em!
The Stillare isn't bad either, I honestly only own the Infinite clone, but I can't see it being much better by Cartel, I thoroughly trust and appreciate Infinite's quality, they're the only clone company that can compete with the genuines, but I wouldn't mind having a genuine V1 (for the silver instead of gold posts). Super huge airflow, almost as good conductivity as the Dominator which is saying something, amazing looks and build quality, really thick walls/topcap, just a great, simple RDA that'll do exactly what you want it to do. I'd say my only grip with it (as well as others), is if you don't buy their Cartel drip tip, then the "spit back" protector lip ironically builds up juice, and ends up in your mouth if your an aggresive lung-inhaler
Good luck, vape on!
On that Infinite Stillare, does it have brass posts?
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I know you said something about price being no object, but honestly I cannot see the value in spending $100 on a chunk of stainless steel for vaping. I have several Igo atomizers and for $100 I can have one set up for every one of my favorite juices. Just one person's opinion, but much like anything else (flashlights, knives, audio, guns, etc) the law of diminishing returns comes into play. Is a $100 atomizer really ten times better than a ten dollar atomizer? I would argue no. Maybe the machining is better, or it has a unique look. Of course there is pride of ownership. But for vaping, well, you'll never convince me that any atomizer is worth more than 25 bucks, no matter how shiny it is, or the logo etched into the side.
Now, having said that, I do own a bottom feed Cyclone for my Reo grand, but there are very limited options due to size constraints, and the difficulty of even finding a decent, 14mm bottom feeder.
For straight top-feed dripping on a tube mod - give me an Igo all day.
Hey at least its not a chalice!
The quasar had the best flavor out of anything I've tried, I dropped mine in the lake yesterday and I already have another one in the mail today.
That being said I liked it better than Ov2 and plume vail, I just ordered a magma today as well and I to an looking for another latest greatest dripper. BTW the fogger v4 is the best rebuildable tank atty I've used period, better than all my gennys, and I have a large stable.
That being said I liked it better than Ov2 and plume vail, I just ordered a magma today as well and I to an looking for another latest greatest dripper. BTW the fogger v4 is the best rebuildable tank atty I've used period, better than all my gennys, and I have a large stable.
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