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I tried to smoke a cigarette a few years ago, but couldn't get past the first pull before throwing it down.
I most likely would. I still like the smell of them and my husband still smokes.
If I spent 35 years walking into the forest, I'd be silly to think it would take 2 days to walk back to my car. Be glad you're vaping and not smoking...then quit vaping when you think you're ready to. Setting a 6 month goal line might not be the best way to do it. Your body will tell you when it's time.
nearly 4 years on this forum and I've only seen 1 Lego gear box. My hat is officially off to you! 
Heh thanks, n biggie for me though i needed a box so just used what was to hand, glad you liked it 
Chocolate, that's how you give up vaping.
But it has to be Lindt chocolate. [emoji6]
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Thanks again Anna, and the Banana was because i hosted it on imgur and they have a running joke of when people post things they need a Banana for scale. yeah sad lol.That may be the smallest stash I've ever seen on ECF!
Seriously, though, best of luck Grach.
Anna
Mmmm I like the little Death Star ball ones they do soo yummy.
I keep trying to let this thread die because I am shy, you lovely folks keep resurecting it heh
Nicotine is habit-forming, not addictive. If your doctor told you that you were going to die as a result of smoking, you would quit that day without issue. Opiates on the other hand are truly addictive; as they replace the function of endorphin release by the brain... Nicotine causes a natural release. There is an benign adjustment period to the cessation of Nicotine, most of which (I suspect) is purely psychological.
It's all pure semantics, at least from the point of view of millions and millions smokers from around the world who know they can "die as a result of smoking", but cannot quit it.
If my doc told me I was dying from tobacco, I would probably light up RIGHT in the exam room. Because... that was what I did when I was stressed. The father of a friend of mine being told he had jaw cancer from smoking actually DID that exact same thing, and lit up IN the hospital.... The nurse was like, "You can't do that in here!" I totally get where he was coming from. He tried valiantly to quit, but was constantly sneaking cigarettes. He did live several years after treatment, but had his lower jaw totally reconstructed. I understand his reasoning. E-cigs weren't really a thing then or he might have tried them. None of the "approved" quitting cessation aides worked for him.
I'm in recovery from opiates and I can truthfully state that any and all detoxes from that substance were Easier than cigarettes. Seriously. If I didn't have the option to vape, I would just have to play along and do my best until I died, seriously. The whole POINT is that smokers cannot quit, even when facing extreme circumstances. If they could have, they would have done so ALREADY.
It's not semantics. Cigarettes are DEFINITELY addictive, and nicotine is one of those addictive substances, IMO. Maybe not worse than some other parts of cigarettes, but definitely a part, otherwise vaping with nicotine wouldn't be necessary, correct? They may be different mechanisms, as far as opiates sitting in your endorphin receptors and nicotine not doing so.... The nicotine can sit in your receptors and thanks to upregulation in your brain, pow, it gives you more empty receptors the more you smoke.
I think that trying to separate nicotine as a non-addictive substance is a bit ridiculous. It doesn't really matter how your brain DOES THAT, but as long as it IS so doing, even if it's because you are constantly smoking, then you will have addiction problems.
Addiction is the state of dependency on a substance, usually along with some brain changes to go with it, that keep the addiction going in whatever way. I think some persons may be more prone to this than others, but the fact remains: Addiction== the right brain meeting the right drug.
It's pretty simple, from my fave Social work professor, but that definition above is the BEST I have ever heard. Simple, easy, true.
Anna
I'm in recovery from opiates and I can truthfully state that any and all detoxes from that substance were Easier than cigarettes. Seriously. If I didn't have the option to vape, I would just have to play along and do my best until I died, seriously. The whole POINT is that smokers cannot quit, even when facing extreme circumstances. If they could have, they would have done so ALREADY.
It's not semantics. Cigarettes are DEFINITELY addictive, and nicotine is one of those addictive substances, IMO. Maybe not worse than some other parts of cigarettes, but definitely a part, otherwise vaping with nicotine wouldn't be necessary, correct? They may be different mechanisms, as far as opiates sitting in your endorphin receptors and nicotine not doing so.... The nicotine can sit in your receptors and thanks to upregulation in your brain, pow, it gives you more empty receptors the more you smoke.
I think that trying to separate nicotine as a non-addictive substance is a bit ridiculous. It doesn't really matter how your brain DOES THAT, but as long as it IS so doing, even if it's because you are constantly smoking, then you will have addiction problems.
Addiction is the state of dependency on a substance, usually along with some brain changes to go with it, that keep the addiction going in whatever way. I think some persons may be more prone to this than others, but the fact remains: Addiction== the right brain meeting the right drug.
It's pretty simple, from my fave Social work professor, but that definition above is the BEST I have ever heard. Simple, easy, true.
Anna
There a huge difference between can die and will die. I saw this first hand when both my parents were told they had terminal cancer. Of course they knew smoking could kill them, but many are willing to take that risk, apparently.
My advice is to give it the time you, personally, need. Addiction is a difficult thing to overcome.
Your vaping 6mg, but if your vaping "too much" then your still going through a withdrawal phase from smoking.
I vaped for a year, and over that year I needed to vape less and less. It was a natural progression toward not feeling the need to vape so much, I'd leave the house and forget my vape and not miss it etc.
So, naturally I decided I didn't need to vape. One day I threw away all my vape gear thinking it would be more helpful in quitting vaping, and within two weeks I was smoking again. Set myself back something fierce. Had to go through buying vaping gear and getting through withdrawals all over again.
After that I was literally afraid to quit vaping. Terrified really. So I kept vaping until one day I just felt like an addict, and I didn't like that feeling so I quit vaping again, but that time didn't throw my gear away.. lol.
I then quit successfully for 5 months (no smoking and no vaping), but then a craving or desire came up which I caved to and been vaping again since. I feel less addicted, more like I can quit for a while, but lately starting to feel a bit tied again to it, so I'm figuring soon enough I will be quitting again, next time hopefully for good.
It's been a process of learning myself, what helps me and what doesn't as far as quitting goes. So, my advice is, Know thyself, and don't underestimate a long term addiction.
That said, dont throw everything away when you do quit, and keep some zero nicotine e juice with your gear your not throwing away, just in case you have a weak moment.
Slowly decrease the level of nicotine your using over time.. no harsh step downs.. take it slow and easy, don't try quitting until you've gone at least two months without nicotine.
When you do quit, have something on hand to reach for, because you will reach for your vape out of sheer habit, best to put a bottle of water where you usually have your vape, and take a sip instead of a puff. It's replacement therapy for the habit.
Also, have something to do with your hands in the quiet moments, because once you quit vaping your now retraining your mind to do something different. Use one of those fiddle things (forget what they are called) or do a small hobby that uses your hands which you can do sitting down.
That's my advice.
Vaping is easier to stop than smoking.. I say this emphatically.. I couldn't stop smoking. Not even for a day. I couldn't stop smoking even when the doctors told me I had to. I couldn't stop smoking even when I couldn't make it to my mailbox without a couple rest breaks in order to catch my breath. And yes, I tried EVERYTHING to quit.
It wasn't until I finally tried vaping that I was able to stop smoking - and even with vaping I went through SERIOUS withdrawals.. so much so for the first three days I didn't get out of bed, and for two weeks I avoided people, and I had to avoid triggers to smoke for a few months..
I was able in time to quit vaping for 5 months..something I could NEVER do with cigarettes, and I plan on quitting again, hopefully permanently next time..
Vaping isn't like smoking at all, at all. The level of addiction to it isn't there like it is with smoking cigarettes, what makes it more difficult to quit vaping for anyone is the original addiction to cigarettes, the farther we remove ourselves from smoking cigarettes, the easier it becomes for us to quit vaping.
Great advice, and read.
Thank you Anna... oops, sorry. Lol
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