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That seems like something that should be in the juice description. Oh well, it's only 10ml wasted.....

I need to interject here. There is NO cinnamon in Smooth Criminal. I do not mean to discount anything that anyone tastes, but it is just not so. I think the sense of cinnamon being in SC is in line with the occasionally described "peppery-ness" of Ahlusion's juices. Many of the juices have a spike to the flavor that I absolutely adore--this "spike" in flavor is definitely a spiced note--but I would sooner associate an indescribable note with another (slightly) abstract term than one that is sure to draw concrete associations.

I just needed to put it out there that SC has no cinnamon in it, not based on my assumption, but my talks with the maker. But, if you taste cinnamon, I can't tell you your'e wrong for what you taste, just that it is something other than that which is triggering those "cinnamon" signals in your brain.

So there is no need to put something in the description that is not there.
 

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OK, it's my turn to be impressed. I just got an email from Wlad assuring me there is NO cinnamon in Smooth Criminal. :D

Maybe I should have continued reading before I wrote that last post. :laugh: I just saw it and got a little bit, uhh, post-itchy. Sorry.
 
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Oh yeah, Nick...

I really dig you and don't want you to think I am trashing your palate's perception. I implore you to put your SC away and forget about it. When I first got SC I thought something was WAAAAY off about it and assumed it was a bad batch. I put it out of sight for over a month and came back to it one day to find a gorgeously matured juice that tasted very much like it was described to be! When in doubt, let it steep...no...let it evolve! That's it...I think A+ juices evolve with time.
 

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OK, it's my turn to be impressed. I just got an email from Wlad assuring me there is NO cinnamon in Smooth Criminal. :D

Update..maybe I have lost my mind. I went on to work on my wishlist and see if my Canyon Sun review looked ok, and "OPEN SESAME!"...got my order in.

Pink Label 30ml
Canyon Sun 30ml
BVC 30ml
SleighRide 30ml

I can't believe it took me a 3rd order before I got the 30ml of SleighRide, I really enjoy that one alot when I am going in between flavors.

Anywho..Wlad, Alley..if I am not crazy, and you flipped the switch for my order to make it tonight, a sincere and heart-felt thanks. I will more than like be MIA a great deal for a couple days, aside from the occasional catch up read. I hope everyone has a fantastic weekend!

A+ customer service legend continues to grow. Glad I read it all before responding. GT was going to say e-mail Wlad. Turns out you didn't need to.;):mail:
I don't get any cinnamon out of SC and I blend cinnamon with another not so good tob juice (other vendor). By acciident at first. Now it is the only thing my wife will vape. I vape the SC in a T2 at ego level power. To me there is a slight bite on the end of a draw. Some call it cinnamon, some pepper. Hope you like it.

CM- I hear a 60ml of Sleighride calling you all the way from Swartz Creek.
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Oh yeah, Nick...

I really dig you and don't want you to think I am trashing your palate's perception. I implore you to put your SC away and forget about it. When I first got SC I thought something was WAAAAY off about it and assumed it was a bad batch. I put it out of sight for over a month and came back to it one day to find a gorgeously matured juice that tasted very much like it was described to be! When in doubt, let it steep...no...let it evolve! That's it...I think A+ juices evolve with time.

I will say, Mimosa Cocktail has evolved nicely over the past few days....and is INCREDIBLY authentic. Will definitely be playing around with the champagne and other fruits now. I'll be diving into Sweet Surrender shortly for the first time..its been over a week now since the cap off steep....and it smells heavenly, so my guess is its going to be good....just may continue to evolve from here! :)
 

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I will say, Mimosa Cocktail has evolved nicely over the past few days....and is INCREDIBLY authentic. Will definitely be playing around with the champagne and other fruits now. I'll be diving into Sweet Surrender shortly for the first time..its been over a week now since the cap off steep....and it smells heavenly, so my guess is its going to be good....just may continue to evolve from here! :)

How long has it been? If you can bare to keep it longer (like another week :laugh:), I am willing to bet that you will say it is even more authentic than now. Didn't you get passion fruit? How is the fruit? Did you get stronger champagne? I want more of that freakin juice!

p.s. If y'all can believe it, I still haven't gotten paid from those paintings! Oy vey, the life of an artist :facepalm:. It should be any day now...
 

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How long has it been? If you can bare to keep it longer (like another week :laugh:), I am willing to bet that you will say it is even more authentic than now. Didn't you get passion fruit? How is the fruit? Did you get stronger champagne? I want more of that freakin juice!

p.s. If y'all can believe it, I still haven't gotten paid from those paintings! Oy vey, the life of an artist :facepalm:. It should be any day now...

Born on 10/29....I can definintely tell it has changed considerably even just from the aroma as compared to day 1. I first tried it a few days ago....was getting a slight taste that I wasn't thrilled with, and can't completely describe, but today it is much different. So I bet you are right that it will continue to smooth out from here, it hasn't even been 2 weeks yet. I got the exact version that you did, the passionfruit with stronger champagne. The fruit in this one is mild...almost indescribable at this point, but there. So I am really excited to see where it goes in another week or so! Once I spend more time with it after that, I'll be able to decide exactly what other fruits I want to try this with!

Thanks for the awesome suggestion....as always, you da Mann. :) (that never gets old!) (and I may have even said that before too...so i guess that never gets old either!)
 

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I wish I had kept tabs on how long this stuff took to get to where I championed it. All I can say is you will know.

p.s. I think it was about three weeks.

My motivation for holding onto it as long as possible is because I know I want to try and customize the fruits a bit....so I keep telling myself to leave it alone until its fully matured, so I can make an educated, and the best possible decision as to what other fruits I think will work best. As of now...I am leaning in the raspberry direction. I think a little bit of tartness with this one would be a really nice compliment...but that idea could be premature. So we shall see.... :)
 

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Don't have a non carto tank laying around? I think with the carto you will still get a 'hotter' temp than SC is smoothest at and keep that 'cinnamon' flavor down. I don't know if that is what I am tasting in it when I vape it, slightly smoking but not an obvious cinnamon to me this way. Even in the Kanger T4 it is still very smooth, for me at least.

Krash, I just cleaned out a ce4 clearo and loaded up some SC. 2.4Ω at 3.2v... now we're getting somewhere! I haven't felt the need to vape anything at this low of a wattage, but I'm pickin' up what you're puttin' down here. This "spicy" note is now even more subdued, and I can finally start to navigate my way around the rest of the profile. It's quite complex! (let's just leave it at that for now) Thanks for all your thoughts.

Oh yeah, Nick...

I really dig you and don't want you to think I am trashing your palate's perception. I implore you to put your SC away and forget about it. When I first got SC I thought something was WAAAAY off about it and assumed it was a bad batch. I put it out of sight for over a month and came back to it one day to find a gorgeously matured juice that tasted very much like it was described to be! When in doubt, let it steep...no...let it evolve! That's it...I think A+ juices evolve with time.

All good, Mann. I don't feel trashed. I'm just very perplexed! :confused: I'm determined to get to the bottom of this (and the tank i just filled) tonight! ;) The juice has changed some in the week since I got it, and I will put it away for a while, but not for another hour or two. Krash is onto something with the 'tank and low watts' suggestion. More on this later...... way later. Like mid-december, early-christmas-gift later!

Peace
 

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Krash, I just cleaned out a ce4 clearo and loaded up some SC. 2.4Ω at 3.2v... now we're getting somewhere! I haven't felt the need to vape anything at this low of a wattage, but I'm pickin' up what you're puttin' down here. This "spicy" note is now even more subdued, and I can finally start to navigate my way around the rest of the profile. It's quite complex! (let's just leave it at that for now) Thanks for all your thoughts.



All good, Mann. I don't feel trashed. I'm just very perplexed! :confused: I'm determined to get to the bottom of this (and the tank i just filled) tonight! ;) The juice has changed some in the week since I got it, and I will put it away for a while, but not for another hour or two. Krash is onto something with the 'tank and low watts' suggestion. More on this later...... way later. Like mid-december, early-christmas-gift later!

Peace

That's the ticket. C'mon, you're a bassist, you know the importance of time, or rather, keeping time! ;)
 

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Oh yeah, Nick...

I really dig you and don't want you to think I am trashing your palate's perception. I implore you to put your SC away and forget about it. When I first got SC I thought something was WAAAAY off about it and assumed it was a bad batch. I put it out of sight for over a month and came back to it one day to find a gorgeously matured juice that tasted very much like it was described to be! When in doubt, let it steep...no...let it evolve! That's it...I think A+ juices evolve with time.

Heh. As you know, LET IT STEEP! is pretty much my solution to all juice-related queries/complaints. :2cool:

Daniele25: Back away from that Mimosa!! NOW!! :evil::laugh:
 

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Vivi Novas, s'il vous plaît!

I've got three mechanical mods and probably a lifetime supply of wick and coil for my rebuildables. Ahlusion carries my batteries and juice. I mentioned that if they carried Nova heads, I would be down to one supplier for everything in a feedback email a few weeks back. Wlad said that even though he isn't crazy about them,that they do carry them in the b&m shop. He told me that once they were settled from the move to drop him a note and we could set something up. One stop shopping for all of our supplies :)
 

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Born on 10/29....I can definintely tell it has changed considerably even just from the aroma as compared to day 1. I first tried it a few days ago....was getting a slight taste that I wasn't thrilled with, and can't completely describe, but today it is much different. So I bet you are right that it will continue to smooth out from here, it hasn't even been 2 weeks yet. I got the exact version that you did, the passionfruit with stronger champagne. The fruit in this one is mild...almost indescribable at this point, but there. So I am really excited to see where it goes in another week or so! Once I spend more time with it after that, I'll be able to decide exactly what other fruits I want to try this with!

Thanks for the awesome suggestion....as always, you da Mann. :) (that never gets old!) (and I may have even said that before too...so i guess that never gets old either!)

My mimosa (stronger champagne) was born on 10/29 as well :) The champagne flavor is spot on, not sweet, a bit dry and I really like it. However my passionfruit is more perfume than fruit at this point. I'm going to put it away for another week or two. I'm excited to taste what Mr. Mann does in this one. I used to enjoy adding a good blackberry liqueur to my champagne and would love to see that Ahlusion style.
 

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Krash, I just cleaned out a ce4 clearo and loaded up some SC. 2.4Ω at 3.2v... now we're getting somewhere! I haven't felt the need to vape anything at this low of a wattage, but I'm pickin' up what you're puttin' down here. This "spicy" note is now even more subdued, and I can finally start to navigate my way around the rest of the profile. It's quite complex! (let's just leave it at that for now) Thanks for all your thoughts.



All good, Mann. I don't feel trashed. I'm just very perplexed! :confused: I'm determined to get to the bottom of this (and the tank i just filled) tonight! ;) The juice has changed some in the week since I got it, and I will put it away for a while, but not for another hour or two. Krash is onto something with the 'tank and low watts' suggestion. More on this later...... way later. Like mid-december, early-christmas-gift later!

Peace



That is what I wanted to hear, very happy it is finally working better for you now. Keep me posted on your thoughts as you vape it for a while.
 

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Heh. As you know, LET IT STEEP! is pretty much my solution to all juice-related queries/complaints. :2cool:

Daniele25: Back away from that Mimosa!! NOW!! :evil::laugh:

Hahahaha....oh trust me, and I'd venture to guess I am not the only one, that any time i go to touch a fairly young juice, I think to myself "Eleanor would be so disappointed!"...and I see those eyes glaring at me! LOL

My mimosa (stronger champagne) was born on 10/29 as well :) The champagne flavor is spot on, not sweet, a bit dry and I really like it. However my passionfruit is more perfume than fruit at this point. I'm going to put it away for another week or two. I'm excited to taste what Mr. Mann does in this one. I used to enjoy adding a good blackberry liqueur to my champagne and would love to see that Ahlusion style.

Yep...similar situation for me. When i tried it a couple of days ago for the first time, I was getting a slightly soapy flavor...but could tell the champagne aspect was spot on, so I am sure that was the passionfruit. I am not getting that soapyness as of today....so I bet this is going to get even better from here. And blackberry.....yum!! That is one I hadn't considered!
 
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