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Moueix

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I would enjoy discussing the philosophies without heat, politics or canned rhetoric. From my own personal experience, as a Union Steward, my job was to take as much as I could from one miserable ....... to give to a large number of miserable .......s. Hurt the one, didn't much help the many.

As an entrepreneur, last year I distributed $2MM to 140 mostly indigent, largely social service dependent, individuals. These are mostly minorities with long and frankly, severe criminal records who cannot obtain employment in the "usual channels". Many didn't last more than a week. Those who understood and helped me with my need to make my customers happy, did very nicely, thank you. It is dirty, dangerous work but I train them thoroughly before letting them loose, and in 7 years, I do not have a single OSHA incident. I think we used 7 bandaids in that time. It is a rare skill, and those who can cut it, can make a terrific living from despite their beginning status of lack of reliable phone service, stable addresses, frequent interruptions of work due to parole hearings, etc.

Other than the handicaps they come with, and I accept to start, I don't take much BS. It requires discipline and commitment to prevent them from hurting themselves or others. I require this, and if I don't get it, I don't feel bad sending them back to where they came from. Everyone depends on everyone being with the program. Some make, and some don't. What I can tell you though, is my customers, unlike that boss who faced me at union meetings, are happy. My employees who make it are happy. I don't know many people who distribute that kind of renumeration to that strata of the populace, and teach them life skills along with it, who think like I used to think when I was a union steward. Whatever anyone thinks of the philosophies, and I'll grant you that Rand is a wretched extremist, I can only hold up the results of the moderated ideology.
 

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Cadmium Yellow Oil Paint

Imagine how difficult it was for Van Gogh to acquire it. :blink:

Cadmium sulfate/sulfide is still an enigma to conservators, to this day, they are still learning new ways to preserve and revive it.

Now THAT was a book I enjoyed. Van Gogh's letters to his brother. Such a lonely, tortured soul, who painted out of 'gratitude', and simply wanted to give something pleasant, perhaps to another peasant, to hang on the wall. Crazy, homeless, and for the most part, denied ordinary human friendship except from the so-called "dregs of society".......and yet, to me, his heart was so overflowing with love, which his paintings expressed, though he could not.
 
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This is probably a topic that could get ugly, and maybe it is better to leave it. I only mentioned Rand in the context of , I'm going to order when ordering is available because it is in my own interest. My second long winded scribe isn't Tez's fault, but I felt the need to describe to a friend why I wouldn't agree with "taking it out of circulation". So I am sorry for even mentioning Rand. Can we leave it? I will.

I like this thread just the way it is.
 

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If you think Absinthe is good, Ouzo is better. Not the stuff they sell in most places. The real thing.

I'll have to try that as well. I can drink Jaegermeister no problem as well although I've been trying to kick a stomach bug for the past 2 days so I'm not wanting to drink anything alcohol at the moment.
 

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Wow, I step away to get caught up on a little Boardwalk Empire...

Not meaning to prolong any debates or fan any book-burning flames here, but I'd like to weigh in on a previous point. Mo, I've been thinking of what you said about it taking all kinds to make a balanced world -- I think you're absolutely right -- I thank you for that reminder, and it's something that we should all take to heart.

This quarter, I've been leading a group of students through an anthropological investigation of what "human" means. I have to read through stacks of 75 student essays at a time addressing different aspects of this issue, and while I've got my own philosophical and academic standpoints propped up by personal experiences, I am really cheating myself out of a golden opportunity to learn from their very legitimate experiences and views if I cling dogmatically to my personal politics and educational interests. This debate raises, in my mind, what I think is an essential human paradox that I hadn't considered. I tend to view the key to human survival (and therefore the essence of humanity) as lying in our sense of belonging to a group and all of its various trappings, including the fact that we're compelled to look after the weakest, oldest, youngest, feeblest, sickest among us. What other animal does this? However, I'm realizing that our individual identities (in other words "egos") also define us as "human." No other creature goes to such great lengths to assert and express their individuality.

So here's the paradox: to be aware of one's own individuality, and yet to be reliant on others and in part defined in relation to them. Perhaps these notions aren't as contradictory as we might think. "Individual" is meaningless if there isn't a group from which to set itself apart, but individual also benefits from group membership for care and survival. However, the group also benefits when certain individuals stray from group norms and offer innovative or creative solutions to problems. In other words, I'm wondering if this "balance" you speak of, brought about through opposing individual viewpoints, may play a part in keeping us afloat as a whole? Interesting notion.

Switching back to Ahlusion discussion, I thought I'd take Ahlusion's temporary closure as an opportunity to vape up my reserve stash of some former favorites from other companies, and I gotta say, they're just not doing it for me like they used to. Tastes change, and that's another thing for which I'm grateful. And I love the fact that we can continuously fine-tune our flavor profiles to adjust for this inevitability.
 

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Switching back to Ahlusion discussion, I thought I'd take Ahlusion's temporary closure as an opportunity to vape up my reserve stash of some former favorites from other companies, and I gotta say, they're just not doing it for me like they used to. Tastes change, and that's another thing for which I'm grateful. And I love the fact that we can continuously fine-tune our flavor profiles to adjust for this inevitability.

Tez, I have been doing the exact same thing! There is no need in purchasing more that will just go right back into the box. I have enough to keep me vaping until our vendor opens back up.
 

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Wow, I step away to get caught up on a little Boardwalk Empire...



My favorite show by a long shot. Last night's episode had a mind-blower of an ending.

As for flavors, I've been switching up alot lately. Saturday was BGB, yesterday was mostly Shadowfax/HHV and today I'm falling in love all over again with Melonade. My Ahlusion order is 'out for delivery' so that means a resupply of CPBT and some Vecchio Blend for steeping duty. I'm wondering where CPBT would fall under the 2012 Best E-Liquids choices? I suppose fruit would be the only option.
 

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I would enjoy discussing the philosophies without heat, politics or canned rhetoric. From my own personal experience, as a Union Steward, my job was to take as much as I could from one miserable ....... to give to a large number of miserable .......s. Hurt the one, didn't much help the many.

As an entrepreneur, last year I distributed $2MM to 140 mostly indigent, largely social service dependent, individuals. These are mostly minorities with long and frankly, severe criminal records who cannot obtain employment in the "usual channels". Many didn't last more than a week. Those who understood and helped me with my need to make my customers happy, did very nicely, thank you. It is dirty, dangerous work but I train them thoroughly before letting them loose, and in 7 years, I do not have a single OSHA incident. I think we used 7 bandaids in that time. It is a rare skill, and those who can cut it, can make a terrific living from despite their beginning status of lack of reliable phone service, stable addresses, frequent interruptions of work due to parole hearings, etc.

Other than the handicaps they come with, and I accept to start, I don't take much BS. It requires discipline and commitment to prevent them from hurting themselves or others. I require this, and if I don't get it, I don't feel bad sending them back to where they came from. Everyone depends on everyone being with the program. Some make, and some don't. What I can tell you though, is my customers, unlike that boss who faced me at union meetings, are happy. My employees who make it are happy. I don't know many people who distribute that kind of renumeration to that strata of the populace, and teach them life skills along with it, who think like I used to think when I was a union steward. Whatever anyone thinks of the philosophies, and I'll grant you that Rand is a wretched extremist, I can only hold up the results of the moderated ideology.

Mo, I think you are all kinds of alright.
 

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Mo, I think you are all kinds of alright.

Except sometimes with Rand, we see a side of us we don't like to see even though it might have an element of truth. But that said, this is (and should be) an e-juice thread. Maybe Ahlusion can release a juice named "Ayn Rand". My prediction is people will either love it or hate it. :D
 

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If anything goes wrong with Ahlusions projections for reopening, you let me know. I ordered 2 60ml's of Pink Label thinking my crews would devour it, and they've hardly touched the first bottle. I can't get them out of the mindset that a battery and tank costs more than a pack of stinkies, even if I spread the cost over a few paychecks and supply them free juice on the job. I'm not having the luck in converting them I had hoped for. Part of it, is that most don't have credit cards for ordering outside of work to resupply. Trying to figure that one out. Anyway, I still have an untouched bottle of 60ml if worse comes to worst.

Thanks Mo!! That is super generous of you...I will keep you posted!

On the juice & the heat topic....I too noticed the exact same. I had juices sit outside this summer, they turned far darker much faster than they normally would. I just don't think that it is good for something to get that hot, when they are not specifically meant to be in temps like that
 

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I think you can only get it in Greece. I has an "special" ingredient. If I said what it was on this forum I would be :censored:. It's not legal in most places. :oops:

I had to go back and look, apparently my info was correct or out of date. It was over 30 years ago I tried it. Either way, it packs a kick and was fantastic.

I'll have to try that as well. I can drink Jaegermeister no problem as well although I've been trying to kick a stomach bug for the past 2 days so I'm not wanting to drink anything alcohol at the moment.
 
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Unfortunately, they have had a series of issues. Latest is they are having problems keeping up with demand so they are holding off taking more orders. The word is they should start-up later this week, maybe Wednesday.

Also sorry to say they do not currently ship outside the US.

I got a question, folks. Just check Ahlusion webshop, I can see only "currently closed". It is 1 PM ET... When are they ready to order? English is not my native language, hope you understand. :D
 

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Except sometimes with Rand, we see a side of us we don't like to see even though it might have an element of truth. But that said, this is (and should be) an e-juice thread. Maybe Ahlusion can release a juice named "Ayn Rand". My prediction is people will either love it or hate it. :D

They have a John Gault blend!

That may have been said already, sorry. My eyes started to glaze over pretty early in this line of conversation. >.>
 

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They have a John Gault blend!

I actually just laughed so hard I snorted!

Tez, I have been doing the exact same thing! There is no need in purchasing more that will just go right back into the box. I have enough to keep me vaping until our vendor opens back up.

Yeah, I'm vaping up some of my reserve stash of BWB RY4 -- I used to consider this the Holy Grail of juices, and it's still great, but I can think of at least 5 Ahlusion juices I'd rather be vaping right now. Sorry BWB RY4 -- It's not you, it's me. I've been seeing someone else.
 
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