Am I doing myself a disservice using my starter eGo?

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I'm still using my basic starter eGo deal that was like $30. I bought a Kangertech t3S tank and I'm kinda mixed on that, it tastes a bit more airy or something. I dunno.

My question is more along the lines of buying really exotic or fancy juices etc. Am I basically wasting my time trying all these crazy flavors using a basic vaporizer? I'm wondering whether its worth upgrading. I am totally happy with the battery life and DO NOT wanna go the drip route. I go out and drink. A lot. Haha. There is no way that system would work for me no matter how much better that it tastes.


So.....opinions?
 

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Nothing wrong with a basic ego. I still use my ego-twists (basic ego with the ability to vary voltage) and Innokin VV/VW 3's (mentioned above) with my mini-protanks and I've been doing this for 8 years.

If you want to explore more below are some blog posts by ECF member Baditude that I highly recommend for someone new to vaping.

1. A Good Starter's Setup for a Beginning Vapor
2. Advancing Up the Vaping Ladder with Egos and Mods
3. Proper terminology - Is it a carto, a tank, or what? A Guide to Juice Attachments.
4. Something Safe for Cinnamon and Citrus Flavors
 

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My opinion is that most peoples opinions are not as good as my opinions.
Seriously though it's about what is best for you. And if what you are doing is working and enjoyable to you then why would you change it?
Then again, if you are discontent with what you are currently using and what liquid you are currently vaping then perhaps it is time to step out of your comfort zone and try something new. Maybe something as simple as a VV/VW device like the iTaste vv3 or spinner or something along those lines. Checking out sample packages of e-liquids may be an option for finding new flavors and new vendors. Trying different kinds of clearos or cartos may be something you could experiment with as well.
But no matter what it all comes down to is what you feel good about trying and what it is that makes the vape right for you.
 

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Your definitely not getting the full potential of of your juices, I would buy any vamo or a zmax mini or reg, they are both really found for under 40 bucks and are great vv devices, if you go carto tanks that's cool, but if you want my opinion spend around 30 bucks on a kayfun Clone of any kind, if you don't want to get into rebuilding you can have a guy at any B&m build it for you probably for free, and you will be in the too echelon of flavor available period for the the cost of 2 broken ego's.
Once your coil is built it will last you over 3-4 months of Heavy use, depending on you wick choice, I'd go with ecowool for a newbie, you'll have to replace that like every 90ml of juice you use.

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I second a kayfun style tank. Great performers in both flavor and vapor. Hcigar kafun 3.1 can be found for about $35 I believe. Kanthal some rolled sterile cotton and some practice after watching rip trippers vid on microcoils/chimney coils. I tried the ehpro kayfun light plus with a bigger air intake....still too tight of a draw for me & the airflow adjustment being on the bottom of the tank is just an awful design flaw if you use it with mechs.
A good topper is where it's at though. If rba's don't interest you I'd look into the nautilus. It puts out good flavor and vape somewhat close to a kayfun style. Good luck in your search.
PS: I can put my kebo russian 91% on my first vision spinner and it performs just as well as my copper nemi...it just looks silly.
 

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My question is more along the lines of buying really exotic or fancy juices etc. Am I basically wasting my time trying all these crazy flavors using a basic vaporizer?
So.....opinions?

Trying different toppers can sometimes change the flavoring, but that is an individual preference.
Juice is juice, and it all depends of your own taste buds, ..which by the way will take a couple of months to fully return.
That means what you like today, you may hate next month ..or vise-versa.
In the mean time, spend your time experimenting .. there are no black and white answers, that work for everyone.
We all had to feel it out, by trying different equipment, and buying lots of "sampler' juices.
Samplers are the cheapest way to try different flavors .. a selection for 5-6 flavors for the same price of one 30ml bottle.
I've been vaping for almost 2 years, and I still use my old twists and spinners, along with some top of the line mods and toppers.
Spending more on juice doesn't make it taste better, but stepping up to a Vamo, etc, will make a big difference in the vape quality.
 

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I bought 6 vamo carto tank setups to get my whole family of Heavy smokers off cigs and I'd definitely recommend any vamo v2 is my favorite, all of which have converted to kf's or the fogger v4, which is a beast BTW. I wish I would have gone that route on the first place, which would have saved a bit of money. That's my two cents. Good luck.

BTW I hate the first juice I fell in love with .... Taste buds will change and juice will taste different depending upon the atty.

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No, not at all, in fact just last week I got a new 1300mah ego-c device because my starter kit ego device (1100mah) is beginning to take longer to charge & needing a daily one.

Though I have a nice Astro clone, I actually prefer the ego devices better, they have a better draw, though this may be in part due to my batteries (AW 18490 1100mah) not having enough fire power. But the real reason I still prefer the ego devices is the way they fit in my hand, very comfortable to hold & not awkward to use.

Every one of us is unique in many ways & we all have our preferences. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the continual use of your starter kit, as long as you're satisfied, that's what counts.

Anything other than analogs.

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I went the through as u for a while but was soon dispeased single and dual coil crearos. Ok vapor but seriously muted flavor to no flavor. I stopped I to a local shop and said I need more satifing dence vape. He pulled ah Igow outta his pocket put a clean tip on it and let me delight in the flavor and dence wet vapor. This is what I've been looking for! $14 it has been by side for almost 3 month now and the coil twisted 32 Ga at 1.5 ohm is over 2 month old. I just Chang out the boiled organic cotton every few days. Your starter batteries should push a single coil fine for now. May want to grab vision spinner to be able adjust the voltage and have longer bat life. MVP 2 can be found for 49 on sale and love mine 3 day on a charge. Drippers are ez even in the bar, probably have to redrip about as much as you reorder a beer. Just watch out for the guy next to who thinks he deserves it.more than you and that he thinks he can.probly smoke crack outta it.

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My question is more along the lines of buying really exotic or fancy juices etc. Am I basically wasting my time trying all these crazy flavors using a basic vaporizer?

Well, I'll start with opinions are like ...., everyone has one. That said, I've had one 'premium' juice that just didn't seem to go on my stock pt2 tanks. It might have been the stock wicks, my tastebuds, who knows. However, this was a very delicate organic fruit flavor in 100% VG. Everything else I've tried, oh yes I could taste the difference, but then I can taste the difference between my v3 and my Spinner.

To me, the difference between the 'premium' (So far Virgin Vapor or Namber Juice) juice has a LOT more complexity and detail. But then I can also taste the difference between my Spinner and my v3. However, I've also had over 20 years experience around chefs and bakers so your mileage will most likely vary. But this is with really cheap CE4 clearos. I mean like $2.95 ones, so it isn't the hardware. Note I said difference, not necessarily that one is better/worse than the other.

So yes, even with really low end equipment, it's quite possible to enjoy really complex flavors. What doesn't work well are very subtle ones. However, while the equipment does make a difference, it's not necessarily a bad one.

Myself, I have juices that I sit back and vape and enjoy while concentrating on them and I have juices (well, one so far) that I vape mindlessly while I'm doing other things. But the hardware doesn't seem to make that much difference in whether or not I enjoy either one, most of the time. I know I'm not getting all of the flavor, but that's why I'm reviewing juices using this equipment. Because lots of people don't have the big fancy rigs.
 

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I totally disagree, good vape shops don't even use clearos as testers for juice because they suck. Go and look for your self.

Vamo and kflite plus Clone, 60 bucks. Definitely up jump your juices so much you'll be able to drop a nic level or two!
And BTW the same juice with less nic tastes better as well, that's one of the reasons, additionally , to lower your nic.
If you want just get the kf plus Clone and run it off whatever you have now, feel free to shoot me a PM anytime.
Don't listen to anyone who says that juice coming out of any clearos is equal, even close to any kf style atty.

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I'm still using my basic starter eGo deal that was like $30. I bought a Kangertech t3S tank and I'm kinda mixed on that, it tastes a bit more airy or something. I dunno.

My question is more along the lines of buying really exotic or fancy juices etc. Am I basically wasting my time trying all these crazy flavors using a basic vaporizer? I'm wondering whether its worth upgrading. I am totally happy with the battery life and DO NOT wanna go the drip route. I go out and drink. A lot. Haha. There is no way that system would work for me no matter how much better that it tastes.

The more airy is of course due to the difference in the t3s tank compared to the first juice delivery device on your starter kit.

You said 'using a basic vaporizer', but I think you mean the battery. The vaporizer is the device on top of the battery that vaporizes juice, also known as a atomizer or atty.

The atty is responsible for the majority of your vape performance. As long as the battery delivers enough power and features to run your atty the way you want to run it, that's 90% of the battle taken care of.

You didn't say if your starter batteries have variable voltage and at $30 I suspect they don't. If that's true I suggest you get a inexpensive VV (or variable wattage) battery and stick with that for a while. This will give you the ability to vary the power on the atty and help you dial in the juices you're trying.

Vape on :thumb:
 

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guys a little new here, how long does a standard vap last?

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by standard vape, but if your talking about an ego battery and a standard CE4 clearomizer, it really varies. I have some inferno (Ego) batteries that are still working well after 3 years, but many have their batts die in months from brand new. A topper like a CE4, depending on what liquid you use will need to be replaced in from days to months. If your using something like a CE4 with non replaceable/cleanable heads i'd suggest swtching to something that has them, then you can replace/cean/rebuild them rather than constantly buying new ones.
 

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While some people remain content with a starter eGo battery and cheap clearo for years I think anyone who wants to stack the deck in their favor for making their vaping experience successful would be wise to pick up a VW/VV device with a screen and oHm reader. They allow you to adjust power levels which is important in optimizing the flavor of a variety of juices. The Innokin MVP 2 and its little brother, the VV 3.0, are both reliable, reasonably-priced VW/VV starter devices.

The screen is very helpful as a trouble shooting aid to see if your juice delivery device and battery are performing as they should. Also, if you ever wish to build coils to save money or try out a juice delivery device that needs to be built you have what you need to get started.

Even if you don't wish to drip regularly there isn't an easier, faster way to sample juices. You don't have to build to do this, How To: Dripping Atomizers for Beginners. An inexpensive 510 manufactured dripping atty will work just fine.
 
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