Am I missing something?

[el lobo furtivo]

I'd been out of the game for about 3 years. I had an old 510 kit that I was never really satisfied with and it was a hassle to keep charged/filled. About a month ago I bought a 900mah Vision Spinner starter kit with a couple Vivi Nova Mini tanks and a bottle of cinnamon pear juice from ecighcarleston.com. I got it, put everything together with the 2.4 ohm that comes already on the Nova and filled it up. HOLY CRAP! It was everything I'd missed the first time around with the 510's. Easy, low maintenance and the battery lasts forever! So I started buying more stuff; more juice, different flavors from different vendors, more tanks, more Nova heads, etc.

I don't like any of it! I keep going back to the cinnamon pear on the 2.4 ohm head running at ~4.2 volts. Don't get me wrong, it's great and I love it but I feel like I'm missing something. Anything other than the 2.4 ohm tastes either really weak or burnt and anything other than the cinnamon pear tastes weak or disgusting. I see all these posts about higher voltage and different resistances and I feel like I'm missing out on something. And now I've caught the bug everyone catches and I'm eyeing a bigger mod, probably a Provari. But would it be worth it? I don't want to drop $200+ just to go back to my original setup. Plus I've got 10 different juices that I don't like and I wonder if I should save them for the bigger mod in hopes that they'll be better. Aaarrrgh!!!

 

[spider362]

I know how you feel.

I remember when I first started I bought a sample pack of 10 various flavors (don't remember who from) and they all tasted like antifreeze or formaldehyde or wet dog or diesel fuel or kerosene (and none of them had that name on the bottle) or some other awful taste until I got to the Dekang Menthol (I was a Menthol smoker before) and now that's all I vape.

 

[fourthrok]

You are not alone. I vape ONLY menthol. I now make my own and that is ALL I vape. I see people going on and on about this flavor and that flavor, and it doesn't interest me in the slightest. I know what makes me happy and satisfied. It's good enough. If the cinnamon pear is "your" flavor, so be it! Go for it!

I only use 2ohm single coil cartomizers. Usually in a tank, but I do sometimes use EMSCCs (mega singe coil..same ohms). I don't like anything BUT 2ohm single coil. If your 2.4 works for you...and you like that tank system you have, then that is the right thing for you!

As for variable voltage. It has it's place, but not really for people who know what ohms they like, don't change flavors, and know the volts/watts they like. That is something you have to work out for yourself. You don't "have" to spring for a Provari right out of the box. The Spinner seems to be fine for you. If you'd like an APV with replaceable batteries that does the VV and ohm checker and battery level check...then you could try out the VV Gripper and see how you like vaping with the 18650 batteries for a low cost. They are currently around $40 at MV right now. Or you could jump to something like the Vamo...also low cost (I think around $50-$60). Just to see if you actually NEED such a thing. Then if you do decide to get a Provari, you'll know it's something you'll really use and enjoy. (There really isn't any comparison between the Twists and Spinners to the VV of the bigger APVS...it's a different animal, really).

 

[cskent]

I think we've all bought tons of juices that sounded good but didn't live up to our expectations. Unfortunately that's part of the process of finding an all day vape. If you want to try a bunch of juices without buying them head down to Altsmoke in New Philadelphia. They've got a rack of samples for customers to take advantage of. Just bring your own dripping rig and see what you can find. It's also a good chance to meet some local vapers while you're there.

Some juices taste different at higher or lower voltages. So, if you're going to be upgrading to a VV rig I'd hang onto those you don't like and give them a second chance when you get your new setup. If you like the cinnamon pear you might want to order a good supply so you have something that satisfies until you can find others to add to a rotation.

 

[CarbonThief]

I wish I had just bought my Provari a few months earlier before wasting an equivalent amount of money on other 40 and 50 dollar cig a like kits. I can't guarantee it, but I have never heard of anyone disappointed with this thing.

 

[el lobo furtivo]

@cskent: Thanks, I was looking for a local shop! I'll definitely head down there my next day off.

 

[Rickajho]

"Am I missing something?"

Perhaps not.

Keep in mind that this experience is all a very individual matter. For example: I must be crazy - I have never found a carto I like and only use atomizers. But that's practically speaking blasphemy on ecf. And for all those folks you see raving about flavor after flavor after flavor there are the exceptions - those folks with a very narrow range of liquids they like, let alone that they don't find repulsive.

So what to do?

Since you already have a spinner you have vv control. Some people may say otherwise, but IMO the vv experience isn't going to change all that much if you jump on a $200.00+ pv looking for an answer. In other words, is there a chance it will change those liquids you hate into the best vaping experience you ever tasted? Ummm... probably not. You may just have a very narrow taste palette for what you like, or what you find acceptable. Let's look at it this way: If you find you like cinnamon pear at your stated 2.4 ohms and 4.2 volts but you don't like cinnamon pear at different resistance or voltages, then you have hardware that actually does work for you and you know what you are doing regarding selecting a carto or tank setup at the resistance you like and fiddling the voltage to find your sweet spot for a particular liquid. Buying more hardware - at least right now - will probably just leave you feeling more frustrated and disappointed. If anything, buy new cartos or heads in small quantities if you want to try something else.

But you do have one good liquid that is working for you. So that's a good thing. Keep working that good thing! But I would suggest slowing down that buying tons of stuff approach to this. Keep the new liquids orders small and stick with samplers or sample sizes until you find a new liquids vendor you really like. There is no point in buying 30ml+ size bottles of untried liquids, especially if in your experience you are finding them largely "not good" no matter what you try. And even then, don't order 30 samples from the same place at a time. Bcuz, if you find you don't like the first five from vendor X, chances are you won't like the other 25 from vendor X either.

On the up side: Lose the stuff you don't like. Don't forget you can always sell or trade liquids you just don't want in the classifieds.

You aren't alone. There are many people on the board who had a hard time finding liquids they like. Stick with what is working for you, but slow down a bit on the liquids chase to lessen your frustration. Me? For the first year-ish I stuck with two very basic liquids as my all day vapes. But two liquids that I really liked was all I needed to make this work for me.

Good luck. And yes - it does get easier.

 

[grandmato5]

My best advice is don't mess with perfection right now. You have found what you like. Be happy with it for now. There may come a time in the future that you really do feel a need to change what you are using because you aren't as satisfied as you are right now. That would be a great time to try whatever APV is really interesting you.

The Provari is a solid APV that does its job very well BUT its not a necessity to own a Provari to be satisfied with vaping. Your Visions Spinner is variable volt. If you don't like your new juices at different voltages on your spinner you're not likely to like them much better on the Provari. You are just as likely to like at least one or more of those 10 juices a month from now with your spinner when your own taste have changed and/or those juices have steeped. I stopped counting a long time ago but I've probably tasted 300 different vendor juices since I started vaping and there's maybe only 30 of them I would ever order a second time. Not liking those 10 juices you have is nothing unusual in the vaping world.

The good thing is that if you do decide to go with your curiosity and get a Provari you can still use your Provari at 4.2 volts with your 2.4 ohm Vivi's so you're not wasting money really and the Provari is a well built APV with good customer service behind it. Your spinners can still be good backups for you.

 

[el lobo furtivo]

Thanks for all the responses everyone! I only have 10-12 different juices that are sitting and all of those are only 5-10ml bottles. I do have about 60ml of the cinnamon pear though I'll probably stick with the Spinners for now and just invest in extra tanks and heads, maybe a couple backup batteries.

 

[gthompson]

I love my Provari, but it doesn't make my juice taste any different.

 

[glasseye]

El Lobo, I *wish* I was where you are right now. It would be great to be happy with one thing! I can't seem to stick with one flavor no matter what. Today I'm going mellow/nutty with the eGo T and juicy/fruity with the itaste mvp. Like a ping pong ball. It's working though, so I'm good. Cinnamon pear sounds really good...

 

[RosaJ]

You can add menthol drops to the juices and see if it improves the flavor. Check the diy forum for recommended number of drops. My tastebuds change and I have to rotate through different flavors to keep it interesting.

Good luck!

 

[spider362]

I'm a Menthol only vaper but I also wanted to try something that I could use for backup if my Dekang Menthol wasn't available when I needed to order something. So, I had one bottle of Dekang Salem (which was the analog I was smoking) to see if it would do.

Akkkkk... The addition of tobacco just wasn't to my taste any more.

However (and to the point of this post), rather than throw the Salem away, or put it on the shelf and forget about it, I mixed 10% of it with my regular Dekang Menthol and was able to eventually use up the bottle.

My point is, just mix a little of the bad flavors with the good so you don't waste you money by throwing it away.

 

[el lobo furtivo]

@glasseye: the cinnamon pear is amazing! I got it from ecigcharleston if you want to try it.

@spider362: I've been doing that with some of my juice. The only problem I have is that I can never get the Nova tanks completely clean after emptying one so there's always residual flavor in the next batch. I guess I just need to order a bunch of tanks and designate a couple as "mixers"

 

[cskent]

If you're looking for local shops we have a couple more that are within driving distance. Buckeye Vapors in Columbus also has sample juices as well as hardware. Vapor Bomb is a juice only place right in Akron, but they didn't have samples when I was there last. They've since moved and were talking about setting up a vape lounge though so it may be worth stopping by. They're located at 3232 S. Main St., Akron.