When I ordered my Joye 510, this came with free liquid, so I opted for the menthol. My order went well and I got my starter kit as advertised. But while I am grateful for the free included liquid, it's horrible. It starts to have a bad aftertaste after a while and it tastes cheap. If all I had was this liquid, it probably would have made me give up on vaping. Never, ever ordering e liquid from them. Just parts.