... And Let the Taxation Begin!

[PoliticallyIncorrect]

"I'm always interested in keeping drugs away from kids and generating some money." (Rep. Phil Barnhart)

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2013-09-17/oregon-lawmakers-debate-e-cigarette-taxes

I can already hear it: "Got an extra Provari?"..."Buddy, can you spare a drop of Bob's Bounty?"

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[zoiDman]

This is One of the Reason the FDA will say they need "Standardized Packaging". So States/Feds can Implement Standardized Taxation.

5 Pack of Pre-Filled Cartos = Retail Price + $2.25 of Tax ?

 

[ClippinWings]

This is One of the Reason the FDA will say they need "Standardized Packaging". So States/Feds can Implement Standardized Taxation.

5 Pack of Pre-Filled Cartos = Retail Price + $2.25 of Tax ?

tax will likely be per ml... there's more money to be made.

What scares me is an inaccurate accounting of ml equivalence since many manufacturers(big tobacco) claim 1 Cartridge = 1 pack... if a cart is 1ml(i believe it is) this is a major problem.

lets use me (and California) as an example:

1 pack of cigarettes/day
$0.87/pack tax in California
&6.09/week

So... let's assume that eliquid is taxed at $0.87/ml, remember the claim... '1 Cartridge = 1 pack'

I vape about 3.5 ml/day

$3.04/day
$21.28/week

1 bottle of five pawns Castle Long Reserve would now cost: $64.10, almost doubling it's already high price.... But it's even worse with less expensive juice:

My local vape shop sells boutique juices 30ml/$22... after this theoretical tax.. that same bottle would be $48.10, meaning 55% of the price is tax.

 

[AgentAnia]

A voice of reason amid the insanity:

"If there's a thought that someday we might tax these things as we do cigarettes, it would seem odd that we would disincentivize people from moving away from something that's dangerous to something that's less so," said Rep. Cliff Bentz, R-Ontario.

Thank you, Rep. Bentz!

 

[ClippinWings]

I'm strongly looking at moving my family from So Cal to Oregon... in the next 6 months.

Pro Cigarette legislation like this may prevent that.

 

[zoiDman]

tax will likely be per ml... there's more money to be made.

...

That might be True. But that is Assuming that Liquid e-Liquids will continue as they are now.

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BTW - California does have a .87 Tax on a Pack of Cigarettes. But the Fed also get a 1 Buck per pack also. And, Of Course there is Sales Tax in California for Cigarettes.

 

[2coils]

A voice of reason amid the insanity:



Thank you, Rep. Bentz!

You stole my thunder!!! We need more clear thinking like this Rep Bentz!

 

[zoiDman]

You stole my thunder!!! We need more clear thinking like this Rep Bentz!

Heck, even those who just Think would be an Improvement.

 

[cdsaint66]

No real surprise here, "Protect the children" is the all purpose excuse they use to cover what they really want, which is the tax hike. I'm going to resist commenting on the D/R politics of the matter but it's killing me!

 

[2coils]

I'm going to resist commenting on the D/R politics of the matter but it's killing me!

I had to bite my tongue too!!!!

 

[Petrodus]

I had to bite my tongue too!!!!

Moderators have tapped me on the shoulder ...
more than once !!

 

[handdrive]

Might sound weird but id pay the tax gladly so long as I couldnt find a single pothole on any road in the whole country.

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[ut1205]

I think Oregon was the first one to think of an additional annual tax on hybrid cars because they don't use enough gas. 50 mpg means that they only collect half the gas taxes. What's up with the "Left Coast".

 

[ClippinWings]

I think Oregon was the first one to think of an additional annual tax on hybrid cars because they don't use enough gas. 50 mpg means that they only collect half the gas taxes. What's up with the "Left Coast".

Keep in mind Oregon has no sales tax... so their annual taxes need to compensate to some degree.

 

[bosun]

Michigan. Pack of coffin nails..$1.00 Federal tax plus $2.00 state tax equals $3.00 plus six percent sales tax on the tax equals eighteen cents..grand total $3.18 in tax and you still have to pay sales tax on the actual cost of the cigarettes! They also charge sales tax on the total cost of gasoline plus have their own state tax on a gallon of gas. Reading above I was very surprised on how California has such a low tax on cigarettes! Guess I should move to the Peoples Republic of California (G)!!
And when their expected revenue doesn't meet their projected budget requirements they cut police, funding to schools, and road repair!
Bastiches!

 

[Petrodus]

A number of years ago ...
Someone posted when governments find a way to tax the hell out of e-cigarettes
they will say e-smoking is the greatest thing to come down the pike since sliced bread.