Another fake VTC4 is floating around!

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    My thanks to ECR's /u/ican....posttoo for getting a pair of these batteries to me for examination and testing. These were bought from a smoke shop in Oregon, USA and are definitely fakes.

    Here's why:

    - Genuine VTC4's have three "legs" coming down from the top contact. These fakes have four.

    - These fakes have the printing on the outside of an opaque wrap. Genuine VTC4's use a translucent wrap and the text is printed on the metal can. The code square is printed on the wrap though.

    - The printing on the fakes isn't even close in appearance to the printing used on genuine VTC4's.

    - Discharging these fakes at 10A causes their voltage to drop to a useless level almost instantly. Genuine VTC4's can be run for quite a while at 10A.

    These fakes don't match any Samsung, Sony, LG, or Panasonic/Sanyo battery I have. While I don't have a sample of every battery made by those companies I think these fakes are of Chinese manufacture. They are either only rated a couple of amps or they are very low grade higher amp-rated batteries.

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    A troubling feature of these fake batteries is the use of a free-floating top insulating ring. Up until now every rewrapped and fake battery I have seen has used a self-adhesive ring. The counterfeiters are learning and we need to keep ahead of them. We can no longer assume that a battery with a free-floating ring is genuine.

    One of the two fake VTC4's I received seems to have either leaked from the top seal or vented before I received it. There is debris around and under the top contact. The 10A discharge test was done using the other fake.

    If you have bought any of these fakes do not use them. Contact the vendor you purchased them from to arrange for a refund or exchange.

    Please do not send me photos of your batteries asking me to authenticate them! Use the information here and, if needed, the photos in my test report for the VTC4:

    Sony VTC4 2000mAh "use only in packs" 18650 Test Results...identical to other genuine VTC4's
     

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    Thanks for that heads up, Mooch. I just went through my VTC4s to make sure they are all genuine, and they seem like they are.

    Have you ever heard of a battery called EcoGear-FX? 4000mah *giggles* 40a *yeah right* 18650s. I've seen so many people claim they are a good battery for vaping but I am highly suspect. I'll mail you a pair if you wanna give them a whirl in your tester...lol
     

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    Thanks for that heads up, Mooch. I just went through my VTC4s to make sure they are all genuine, and they seem like they are.

    Have you ever heard of a battery called EcoGear-FX? 4000mah *giggles* 40a *yeah right* 18650s. I've seen so many people claim they are a good battery for vaping but I am highly suspect. I'll mail you a pair if you wanna give them a whirl in your tester...lol

    4000mAh? LOL
    I've never heard of them. Vapers are extoling the virtues of a battery marketed to flashlight owners?

    Their web site only has 3000mAh batteries now so it looks like they might have learned something? Thank you for your offer but with the 6-8 week backlog I have now and with the 4000mAh not being sold anymore I would want to stay with the most requested batteries.
     
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    Gotcha...that's a heck of a backlog. And imagine that...4000mAh AND 35a. LOL

    That's (flashlight) exactly what I will be doing with these batteries. I read a couple reviews where people were stating they were getting 2500-2600mAh out of them, yet still insisted they were top notch, with a definite 35a pulse...lolol
     
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