Anti-smoking Drug Suits Filed Against Pfizer

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1,200 lawsuits filed against Pfizer charging that anti-smoking drug, [FONT=Verdana,Sans-serif]Chantix, causes a variety of [/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Sans-serif]psychological problems. Here is the link:

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I think that I will stick to vaping to end my analog addiction.
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[Petrodus]

Seems to me the only smoking cessation on the market today
with a large enthusiastic cheer-leading section is the E-cigarette.

I refer to the E-cigarette as a smoking cessation
regardless what others say and or what is considered to be Politically Correct

 

[spaky]

I always refer to ecigs as a smoking alternative.

 

[Petrodus]

I always refer to ecigs as a smoking alternative.

Smoking alternative is more correct and of course when speaking with others
referring to E-cigarettes as an alternative should be used.

I was just rambling... and should have said I mentally consider E-cigs as a smoking cessation
just because I no longer smoke cigarettes or use any other tobacco products.

Hind sight thing... shouldn't have posted

 

[VeeDubb65]

I always refer to ecigs as a smoking alternative.

I agree, and I think that's a MUCH more apt description.




As far as the law suit, I can't say I approve.

I'm not the world's biggest fan of big pharma, and I am well aware of the TERRIBLE side effects of chantix; but people need to have some personal responsibility. The side effects of chantix were well established LONG before it went on the market, and I seriously doubt anyone has ever gotten a prescription for it without a stern talking-to from their doctor about the risks and side effect, plus an equally clear talk with their pharmacist. I worked at a pharmacy in college, and I know that even at the crappy pharmacy where I was employed, they would NEVER have let a customer walk out the door without speaking DIRECTLY to the pharmacist if they were prescribed anything remotely dangerous.

If the people filing the suits didn't get that kind of clear direction, it's their doctors and pharmacists who are responsible, not Pfizer. It would be like a chainsaw juggler filing a suit against Craftsman.

I find the whole thing despicable.

 

[Petrodus]

Interesting ... just saw a Chantix commercial on TV and the disclaimer
lasted longer than the sales pitch ... Some have suicidal thoughts etc

Take Chantix ... but don't try E-cigarettes because they haven't
been proven to be 100% safe.

 

[Nightseer]

Um-I had never heard of chantix-until the moronic idiot b%#@$ of a doctor treating me for bipolar disorder attempted to toss it into the already not-working volatile mix of toxic chemicals I was taking daily.

/rant on/

Luckily-I read the papers that came with it after my pharmicist looked at me like I lost my mind and asked if I was really going to take that. I still have the prescription. I have a new doc. Who actually pays freaking attention.

Not all doctors have our best interest at heart-so at least in some cases, I can understand why people take it-my doctor called it the "wonder drug of the century" and when I asked about it interacting with the depakote and lithium I was already taking-she told me she may have to raise the dosages to counteract depression...........really??????? I already had serious issues with one of the two (depokote is DANGEROUS), but you're going to add something that makes me want to kill myself more????

.......

Sorry
/rant off/

I agree, and I think that's a MUCH more apt description.




As far as the law suit, I can't say I approve.

I'm not the world's biggest fan of big pharma, and I am well aware of the TERRIBLE side effects of chantix; but people need to have some personal responsibility. The side effects of chantix were well established LONG before it went on the market, and I seriously doubt anyone has ever gotten a prescription for it without a stern talking-to from their doctor about the risks and side effect, plus an equally clear talk with their pharmacist. I worked at a pharmacy in college, and I know that even at the crappy pharmacy where I was employed, they would NEVER have let a customer walk out the door without speaking DIRECTLY to the pharmacist if they were prescribed anything remotely dangerous.

If the people filing the suits didn't get that kind of clear direction, it's their doctors and pharmacists who are responsible, not Pfizer. It would be like a chainsaw juggler filing a suit against Craftsman.

I find the whole thing despicable.

 

[Sdh]

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[VeeDubb65]

Um-I had never heard of chantix-until the moronic idiot b%#@$ of a doctor treating me for bipolar disorder attempted to toss it into the already not-working volatile mix of toxic chemicals I was taking daily.

That's a PERFECT example of what I'm saying. T

hank goodness that you're smart enough and responsible enough, and have a responsible pharmacist.

However, had you not been responsible enough to read the label and talk to your pharmacist, it wouldn't have been Pfizer's fault. It would have been a very small percentage your fault, and almost entirely the fault of your stupidly irresponsible doctor. Pfizer has gone out of their way to include detailed warning labels, HUGE disclaimers in their adds, document the side effects with the FDA and Surgeon General. They've done their job, and haven't tried to hide anything. It's not their fault if some irresponsible idiot doc prescribes it to a bi-polar patient.

On a related note, I would be showing that prescription to the hospital administrators where that doc works. He should have a job.

 

[PlanetScribbles]

I used Champix (the UK equiv.) and it gave me a terrible upset stomach. Cramps and wind.
Not good at all.
On the lawsuits, it's just opportunism to make a barrow load of cash. Nothing more.

 

[Nightseer]

That's a PERFECT example of what I'm saying. T

hank goodness that you're smart enough and responsible enough, and have a responsible pharmacist.

However, had you not been responsible enough to read the label and talk to your pharmacist, it wouldn't have been Pfizer's fault. It would have been a very small percentage your fault, and almost entirely the fault of your stupidly irresponsible doctor. Pfizer has gone out of their way to include detailed warning labels, HUGE disclaimers in their adds, document the side effects with the FDA and Surgeon General. They've done their job, and haven't tried to hide anything. It's not their fault if some irresponsible idiot doc prescribes it to a bi-polar patient.

On a related note, I would be showing that prescription to the hospital administrators where that doc works. He should have a job.

Hm-kinda agree not phizer's fault entirely-but I also know that drug companies give doctors bonuses for prescriptions........at least they used to. And frankly-I believe they NEVER should have released it, because of the side effects. But that can be said of most drugs.

Yeah-I kinda raised caine about the lovely drug coctail I was given (chantix was a sideline to add emphasis at the time) along with my new doctor as I had been screaming about side effects of something else-that was NOT listed on the info, btw-and was ignored (all in my head). While she didn't lose her job, I know she's still there, I saw the admin in the clinic cringe when I mentioned chantix. Here's hoping I was the last psych patient ever almost given this stuff....

 

[MsOceanCity]

My doc, who supports my use of a PV (anything to get me off analogs!), prescribed Chantix to the 4 chain smoking ladies who work in her office. Well, within 5 weeks, all 4 were off the drug and all 4 went right back to smoking! Go figure!

 

[JLeigh]

On the lawsuits, it's just opportunism to make a barrow load of cash. Nothing more.

Yes, that's true. On the other hand, it's practically the only way to get the drug companies to sit up and pay attention. Threaten them financially, and they act. Otherwise, they do nothing.

 

[Sdh]

I used Champix (the UK equiv.) and it gave me a terrible upset stomach. Cramps and wind.
Not good at all.
On the lawsuits, it's just opportunism to make a barrow load of cash. Nothing more.

They have a new lawsuit commercial related to a denture adhesive product. I want to say poligrip. Not sure. So hey there you go! Those lawsuits are going to make some folks rich. Seriously, the ingredients I believe were elevated zinc levels. Not cool!

I have taken Wellbutrin in the past. I almost killed a fellow nurse at work. It brought out the "evil" in me. I can see why folks can kill others and themselves. I was monitoring myself for adverse side effects. I would say wanting to hurt someone else is on the adverse side. Of course I stopped and looked into a more natural approach with no known side effects.

 

[player30]

Yes, that's true. On the other hand, it's practically the only way to get the drug companies to sit up and pay attention. Threaten them financially, and they act. Otherwise, they do nothing.

Drug companies are in business to make money. Most businesses are. ALL DRUGS HAVE SIDE EFFECTS; some worse than others. Chantix has worked for some(my sister in law), and the longer it is on the market, the more possible issues associated with it will arise. I would not take it with all the list of possible side-effects.

That said, class action law suits make me sick. Lawyers are bottom feeding fish. 1200 people are in the suit;how many people have taken it successfully? The only ones who will make money are the attorneys on both sides. We shouldn't ask drug companies to create drugs if we are not willing to take part of the responsibilities. Children treated for cancers are more likely to develop cancer as an adult. Should we let them die as children so that this risk will not appear in their adulthood?

Personal responsibility is the answer.

 

[medman1234]

I tried chantix 3 times.It did work for me but caused terrible,violent nightmare(more like terrors).I had to quit taking it every time.I'm so happy I tried vapeing.1st day=cold turkey.......

 

[KDK]

Any drug can have an adverse side efect for some people. I had a horrible reaction to Wellbutrin myself, where it felt like something was moving around underneath my skin! I thought I was going insane, and had to stop the medication or tear my own skin off to stop it. No medication is safe for everyone. The ones that give a significate number of people problems are the ones that sould be taken off of the market. Why can't the FDA with all their recources figure this out? E-ciigs with no significent problems/OK, Chantix causing people to kill themselves/ not ok - what are they thinking, and do these people realy have the intelligence and education to make such decisions for the general population of this country? I think not, and I will make my own dicisions after doing my own recearch.

 

[VeeDubb65]

...do these people realy have the intelligence and education to make such decisions for the general population of this country? I think not, and I will make my own dicisions after doing my own recearch.

I think it has a lot less to do with intelligence and education, and a lot more to do with motivations.

 

[congaman]

I was prescribed Chatix after having a heart attack. After around 3 weeks i felt the worst depression i've ever felt in my entire life. Also, DO NOT drink alcohol when taking this drug!!! Trust me on this one. Incredable, vivid nightmare dreams are also a sweet little side effect i encountered from this "great" new drug. I would not touch this *^#$ again with a mile long pole!
Just my humble opinion.

 

[KDK]

I think it has a lot less to do with intelligence and education, and a lot more to do with motivations.

You are probably right, but I just would rather think it was due to intelligence or education rather than motivations or morals, as I tend to thnk that people are more responsible for the latter rather than the former.