Been shopping around for a APV, want a Zen but one man can do so much... So i'll put that money away and pray i'm fast enuff to get one lol. That being said i currently run a twist around 4.4 to 4.6, and like it but want something...flashy. I love the retro look of the joker edge but figure this is the community to ask about it. I no there are pros and cons on them all but is this a good pv? I no these are your opinions so let me have it.