Any alcohol Free E-liquids? Is there such a thing?

[Bill77094]

I don't drink anymore (me and alcohol don't mix well), and I would prefer to not vape e-liquid that contains alcohol. I'm looking for e-liquids that do not not contain any alcohol in the base or flavorings. Is there even such a thing, since PG is a type of alcohol? Does VG also fall into that category?

Is there a supplier that has a decent range of e-liquids that do not contain any alcohol, flavorings and all?
-Thanks, Bill

 

[Remie]

I don't drink anymore (me and alcohol don't mix well), and I would prefer to not vape e-liquid that contains alcohol. I'm looking for e-liquids that do not not contain any alcohol in the base or flavorings. Is there even such a thing, since PG is a type of alcohol? Does VG also fall into that category?

Is there a supplier that has a decent range of e-liquids that do not contain any alcohol, flavorings and all?
-Thanks, Bill

Someone may correct me but PG is chemically a "double alcohol" and not the same molecular structure as "ethyl alcohol" or "ethanol" which is the intoxicating alcohol we consume. PG is metabolized into pyruvic acid. Pyruvic acid is a natural result of how our bodies process glucose.

I completely understand why you are asking the question - and good for you for asking it! Congrats on your sobriety

You can look for a VG liquid called Eco Pure - cignot.com sells it (I'm not sure what other suppliers carry it) - I don't believe it contains alcohol. There are also other VG e-liquids that may or may not contain alcohol. VG is thicker than PG and alcohol is often used to "thin" a VG liquid.

Alcohol IS sometimes added in small amounts to both PG and VG e-liquids. It's supposed to enhance throat hit and enhance certain flavors.

Some flavorings also contain alcohol.

E-liquid manufacturers and suppliers use different sources and combinations of ingredients to formulate their smoke-juices.

Since alcohol evaporates faster than water at room temperature and evaporates when heated at 172 degrees. It's safe to say that e-liquid is vaporized by the atomizer at a much higher temperature than that. The alcohol (if any) that is inhaled would be evaporated and inconsequential.

I know there are people who will disagree and I respect that. I make these statements based on my particular background. Someone else please post facts to dispute me if you have them?

That said - Ask the suppliers you are interested in purchasing from if they add alcohol to their e-liquids and ask them who they buy their flavor bases from and if the flavor you are interested in was made with product containing alcohol. The flavoring companies themselves list the specific ingredients in their products.

It is your right as the consumer and paying customer to know the ingredients used in what you intend to inhale. If they can not provide the information you need, move on - there are many reputable suppliers right here on these boards.

Another option for you might be looking into DIY. Making your own e-liquids. There is a section on these boards under "Tips and Tricks" called "DIY e-liquid". A lot of people prefer and enjoy making their own smoke-juice. By doing that you have complete control over what you add to your particular recipes.

Do lots of research, ask lots of questions

Good Luck!

 

[Bill77094]

Thank you for your informative reply. I have been sober for almost 5 years. When I received an order of DeKang Liberty liquid, I was surprised to see that the second ingredient listed on the label was ethyl alcohol (water being the first.) I am feeling some anxiety after 19 days of no analogs, the alcohol revelation did not help matters. If the alcohol is indeed "cooked off" by the vaporizing process, that would be great, as I am comfortable with eating things (or vaping) where the alcohol is cooked off before consumption. I will look into cignot.com and the Eco-Pure line of liquids.I'm also going to find some 0mg juice to do some heavy duty vaping with.
Thanks again, I feel a little better just getting the question out there, and I look forward to any further input by other ECF members. -Bill

 

[Remie]

Thank you for your informative reply. I have been sober for almost 5 years. When I received an order of DeKang Liberty liquid, I was surprised to see that the second ingredient listed on the label was ethyl alcohol (water being the first.) I am feeling some anxiety after 19 days of no analogs, the alcohol revelation did not help matters. If the alcohol is indeed "cooked off" by the vaporizing process, that would be great, as I am comfortable with eating things (or vaping) where the alcohol is cooked off before consumption. I will look into cignot.com and the Eco-Pure line of liquids.I'm also going to find some 0mg juice to do some heavy duty vaping with.
Thanks again, I feel a little better just getting the question out there, and I look forward to any further input by other ECF members. -Bill

Glad to help! I really understand your hesitation and sense of anxiety. What milligram e-liquid are you vaping?

I know opinions vary, but I personally haven't been a big fan of the Dekang flavors I've tried. I find Dekang really hit or miss - and I usually end up mixing them with other flavors just to use up the sample sizes I ordered when I got my starter kit.

If you have completely stopped smoking and still feel some anxiety or craving with vaping, maybe during the rougher cravings upping the nic milligram of the liquid may help?

There are a lot of people here who use higher mg liquid to alleviate cravings, and a lower mg the rest of the time. It's a matter of trial and error sometimes until you find your comfort zones.

Do you usually stick with tobacco flavored juice? There are some quality USA liquid suppliers here that have some really good tobacco flavors.

I lucked out because I started with 24mg thinking if it was too high I'd get some VG and cut it - but it turned out to be the right mg and I'm still vaping 24mg after a month. It's been an amazingly comfortable process.

If you've been vaping the same liquids for almost three weeks without feeling "triggered", stressed or anxious in that regard, I'd think it's safe to assume that it's not going to jeopardize or compromise your sobriety.

Check around though - you'll figure out what works for you and what you feel the most comfortable with.

Congrats again - 5 years is awesome - not to be all corny, but you're working it and it's working

I know there will be a lot of other replies, this is a great community - I just happen to be having one of those insomniac nights, and grateful I get to sleep tomorrow, err... later lol

 

[kjj]

The idea of "cooking off" the ethanol is nonsense. It is vaporized and you inhale it, just like everything else in the fluid is vaporized and inhaled.

That said, the amount of ethanol in the fluid is tiny. It is generally safe, even for people with serious alcohol problems. BUT, at least one person here, who happens to be a very credible person on these forums, reports that he can feel the ethanol and has to avoid it.

If you are already vaping and haven't had any problems, you are fine. If you aren't already vaping and don't want to test it yourself, you'll need to avoid mixes with ethanol.

 

[lukemacneil]

I've also been sober quite some time, and this was a concern for me. What I settled on in my own head is.. if it doesn't taste like alcohol, and it doesn't change the way I think and act ... I'm not going to stress on it.

There was a while where I was a little bit unreasonable about staying away from all alcohol.. I wouldn't use aftershave or mouthwash.. I wouldn't eat anything that had been prepared with alcohol. Now I'll use aftershave, and they make more non alcohol mouthwashes... and I realized.. I never woke up in a strange place after shaving my face too many times... or felt the uncontrollable urge to get home quickly so I could splash my face with aftershave. Heh.

Anyway. I really like Bannana's Foster e-juice. I just ordered some from Tasty Vapor, but I asked him to leave the rum flavoring out. V4L sent me a sampler pack of mixer drinks.. just boiled those ones out.

To me... no big deal. Maybe to you, it is.

I suppose it's up to you to decide what you are, or aren't comfortable with. If you aren't comfortable with it, Remie's DIY suggestion may be a good idea.

 

[Bill77094]

I sure feel a whole lot better today, the Superbowl festivities had me wound up. Maybe it was the 36mg e-liq I was chain vaping for 2 hours?

I've been able to demonstrate to numerous people the ability of an e-cigarette to help a person (me) to quit smoking. Many of those people are in AA. Some of the them have expressed a real interest in trying out vaping to see if it will help them in quitting. It would just be smoother introduction to vaping for some of them, if alcohol was not a component in the vaping experience. I am not totally rigid about alcohol as I once was, but I would not want to introduce a person in sobriety to vaping without being comfortable in fully disclosing the ingredients of the e-liquid. For some people, the alcohol thing would be deal breaker, and that would be unfortunate since there are alternative juices. I still have to e-mail a few suppliers to see what they have to offer. I'm mostly interested in premixed e-liquid, since I can just pass the supplier's name and price along to my friends who wish to give vaping a try. I also tell people about the ECF, as this is the best place to learn about e-cigarettes, e-liquid, advice of nic strengths, DIY stuff, etc.

Thanks again for your input, it has been a huge help..

 

[lukemacneil]

I am not totally rigid about alcohol as I once was, but I would not want to introduce a person in sobriety to vaping without being comfortable in fully disclosing the ingredients of the e-liquid.

Kudos to you for being responsible.