Any experienced users want to help me go from smoking to vaping the right way? (product help)

[addictedschizo]

Ok. Yesterday I ran out of cigarettes. Decided to quit. A day passed and after a sweaty sleepless night enraged and entranced by a new found little devil on my shoulder by every little noise and movement in bed my wife was making (her fault I can't sleep ya know ? s/c) I drive to town at 3 am to buy some and then wound up buying a dozen cartons online to insure myself from that hell again.

I have tried meds and they make me suicidal or just otherwise extremly f'd up. Meds add a multiplier to the mental withdrawal symptoms for me. Patches,gum suck. I think its more to it then the drug I think the rapid delivery of inhalation is the key to it which is why this is prob the best option. I have tried various e-cigs before (its been many years) and I liked them for a short while but I don't know if it was the tech then or what but they lost flavor, atomizers lost power or quickly became too weak & became wholly unreliable.

I have heard vape tech has improved (portable cig tech not something stationary like volcano which is great imo but I need portability)
and seeing as how as I just spent a lot on my addiction I'm looking to spend some more into trying a less destructive form again and would like it to work out because this is pretty much my last stitch effort into an alternative.


I'm a chain smoker a pack a day promised or 2 if I don't sleep, have been since childhood. Marlboro menthols,reds,cloves any of those three I like. I'm 25 now and have been noticing the physical health effects hit me. For example my throat every morning is dead tight and I am hacking until I make a good cup of coffee to open me up. Coffee is like an inhaler to me it just has good synergy so I have half a dozen or more mugs a day. Lymph nodes under armpits are always firing up causing discomfort. I pretty much accepted I don't have the strength to quit but if I can choose a less damaging delivery


I want a product that delivers powerful hits, portability and that can be used constantly. Also helps if the cartridges taste good. I don't like disposables so much. Money is not an issue to buying but I'm aware of upkeep costs and want to keep them lower in the long run.

I'm on my laptop a lot so I got interested in the KGO (riva?) as it has a usb use while charge feature + I have a soft spot for usb powered gadgets. Originally I was looking at blu as it was pretty and well marketed but I say it had social features and figured it was a popularity fad and fame product that would rekindle my old memories of crap atomizers and based on what reviews I read I might be right but don't know as I'm too cautious to buy anything atm.


I'm going on and on but in summary whats the best one with function as the deciding factor? Should I try cartomizers over atomizers (not even sure precisely what those are they are new). And other general vape advice. Thanks

 

[Lex0r]

A great way to start would be having the ultimate desire to make vaping work for you...sounds like you might have a tough time making the transition (normal) but a lot of it is mental preparation. Try a couple of eGo Twist batts, get a usb charger, wall adapter, pack of cartos, and a couple drip tips. Juice is up to you. All of this is available at vaporbeast, which is where I refer all my friends who want to start out and skip past all the crappy cig-a-likes. They have free shipping too. Good luck, keep reading and asking questions.

 

[bnrkwest]

Welcome!!! I think an ego VV battery and if you chain smoke you will be chain vaping, I would recommend a carto tank, just fill and vape away! This is the easiest most reliable set up in my opinion. The little polypro tanks are great because they do not crack with ejuices like polycarb plastic does. You can also try clearomizers but most reliable is a carto tank. you can check out some supplies here: highdesertvapes.com He also has good juices, my fav tobacco is Dueling Banjos, it is fabulous! Have fun!! bnrk

 

[JeremyR]

Do not get the blue or anything cig sized if you can. you will want To refill the juice yourself. A great transition would be a 650 ego or riva its what I started with. The size is small enough. Like a small cigar(swisher). 900 would be longer Lasting. top it with a kanger evod or t3 and its a good smooth small form factor. a carto tank is great However bigger, I never went there because I'd rather not use cartos. But lots of people love em and They are pretty consistent and you don't have to worry about messing with anything because you can't! Eventually you will probably step up to a vamo type device but they are not as portable or pocketable. You will need 2 batteries and 2 attys to be set enough to make it daily.

Kanger eVod Kit - Stainless

VAMO Variable Voltage/Wattage Mod KIT- Stainless Steel

Smoktech Winder (Twist) 900mah - Stainless

 

[Steam Turbine]

Get this starter kit
BUT there is a small problem with this kit. The resistance of the atomizer heads is to high... So... go here and buy 5 spare 1.5 ohms heads... youll need some eventually anyways.

And then browse some juices here. I suggest that you start with either 18 or 24 mg nicotine since you are a heavy smoker and 50/50 pg/vg ration. Get more than one flavor! Flavor will make or break your experience. Hopefully you fing one that you like right off the bat. But if you dont. keep trying some, there IS something for you out there.

That should set you up with a cheap but very solid starter kit.

Watch this video to know how to use this thing. Skip to 12 minutes if you wanna jump right into the action and don't bother about the recoiling section at the end... But hey! watch the whole thing, its Pbusardo! A vaping legend lol

Welcome to the wonderful world of vaping.

 

[Steam Turbine]

Oh!!! and whatever you do...


Stay away from blu starter kit bullcrap

 

[JeremyR]

I started with a kit and juice from liberty flights. They do have a very large Selection of juices. I started with Churchill and quit right away. The gold and silver, hotel, Virginia, and ry2 I can recommend. They also have a clove. These are good juices from hangsen one of the best mass produced juices. They have 5 ml testers. The shipping and cs is fast. Thy have 30 ml sizes and various blends if you want pg or
Vg.

E Liquid - Original - E Liquid 5ML - VG - Tobaccos

The smooth tobacco is my absolute favorite. Amazing nutty tobacco.
E Liquid - USA Premium Blend - E Liquid 5ML - USA - Tobacco

Click the 20% off tab before you shop

 

[InTheShade]

Oh!!! and whatever you do...


Stay away from blu starter kit bullcrap

A lot of people started with blu and continue to stay off the stinkies with it - it's not all bad. I think there are some members on ECF that still use blu on a daily basis. Just because it doesn't work for you (or you think it a rip-off) doesn't mean it's bad for everyone.

BUT - I agree a good Ego spinner 2 battery kit with 2 EVODs is hard to beat, just wanted to throw it out there - the best starter kit is the one that keeps you from smoking.

I started vaping with this kit from My vapor store http://www.myvaporstore.com/Vision_Spinner_Joye_Ego_C_Twist_Combo_p/vvs-c.htm it's a little more expensive than you can get at fasttech, but they are US based and you'll get it in a few days.

There's nothing wrong with fasttech, their prices are cheap, but the kit linked is not variable voltage - and you'll probably be looking to upgrade within a matter of a few weeks. The spinners are a solid start, and even if you decide to upgrade to something like a Vamo in the future, your spinners will make an excellent backup.

 

[Steam Turbine]

There's nothing wrong with fasttech, their prices are cheap, but the kit linked is not variable voltage - and you'll probably be looking to upgrade within a matter of a few weeks. The spinners are a solid start, and even if you decide to upgrade to something like a Vamo in the future, your spinners will make an excellent backup.

Your right to say that a spinner is superior. But at 20$ for 2 batteries and 2 evods... its a damn go deal. Just shove some low rez heads in there and its a damn good vape. Ok its not a sub ohm rba vape but.... damn good for that compact of a format.

As for the blu... I cannot understand how anyone can stand them. Poor throat hit poor flavors. Crappy batteries. Crappy pcc... I mean no disrespect for anyone who uses them but I cannot help myself when I hear about it, I have to yell from the top of my lungs: DON'T!!!!!!!!!

 

[InTheShade]

You're right Steam Turbine, it's a great deal, and I meant no disrespect either, I happen to agree with you about Blu, but I also know a *lot* of people use them as their only vape delivery device.

It's all good...

 

[Steam Turbine]

You're right Steam Turbine, it's a great deal, and I meant no disrespect either, I happen to agree with you about Blu, but I also know a *lot* of people use them as their only vape delivery device.

It's all good...

Whatever keeps us off of cigarettes is what matters.

 

[Steam Turbine]

By the way addictedschizo. Go on youtube. Look at grimmgreen's and pbusardo's videos. They are great reviewers that can lead you in the right direction. It might be overwhelming at first, there is TONS of stuff out there. But its all fun stuff!

 

[addictedschizo]

Thanks steam turbine. This is a whole new market from what I knew--(clearomizers and such) in its infancy and you went samurai on the bs/terminology for me. Even price shopped it from what I can tell.

I bought x2 of the 1100 5 piece vs the 6 piece 900 as it came to be only $5 more and doubled me on cables/chargers just in case.
Bought the lower resistance parts too. I def want more vape. Give me a light cigarette and I will just smoke enough of them to account a real one


So far so good. Some quick ?'s. How long should I expect those carto parts to last? And on that vape site about how far does 15ml get you? Is the juice on this site good/priced well in particular? Price wise bulk is looking to be the way to go for sure


Also whats the lay rundown on spinners/higer gear? I'm commited to trying this (bought all but juice) but if things work out smoothly I'm interested in an elementary understanding of the finer things w/o getting too technical

 

[OBDave]

Ego is the way to go for a starter, I think. I still don't use the variable voltage (vv), more important to me is lots of spare batteries and spare clearomizers (to me they're the easiest thing out there - just fill a tank up with juice and go). I'm a big fan of Kanger Evod tanks, but I just got a couple glass Protanks because some flavors will crack the plastic tanks (do a search).

I failed to quit with old stuff a few years ago, but with the Ego/Evod setup I've been vaping 3 weeks, cig free 2 weeks, and not looking back at all...good luck!

 

[The Ocelot]

While Fasttech has great prices, for a first kit I strongly suggest getting name brand batteries - which would be Joyetech for eGos (including the "Twist") and Vision for the "Spinner." I don't have a problem buying knock offs, except where batteries are concerned, unless they are back-ups.

You will get tons of recommendations, but what I always tell new vapers is to get 2 good battery devices, a charger, and then spend the rest of the budget on different types of delivery devices (cartos, clearos, tanks, etc.) and juice samples. The batteries are just a power source, so the length of time it holds a charge is important, but beyond that your personal vaping experience is determined more by the juice and how it is vaporized.

You will also probably get suggestions of mods (like the Vamo) right off the bat, but keep in mind that you will have to buy a charger, extra batteries and, if you're smart, a back-up device. Dead batteries aren't the only reason mods stop working, and if for some reason that happens, you'll want to have have back up. If considering a mod, read more about the specific models in the sub-forums.

This is my current pick for new vapers (with more topper devices added and juice, of course): http://www.myvaporstore.com/Vision_Spinner_Joye_Ego_C_Twist_Combo_p/vvs-c.htm

 

[The Ocelot]

Get this starter kit
BUT there is a small problem with this kit. The resistance of the atomizer heads is to high... So... go here and buy 5 spare 1.5 ohms heads... youll need some eventually anyways...

I tend to cringe with advice starting with Get, as opposed to a suggestion, but that's just a personal thing with me.

My comment on this suggestion is the resistance of the replacement heads. Perhaps a variety resistances might be a better recommendation. The kit doesn't appear to be variable voltage and generic eGo are ≈3.7v. 2.6Ω heads (if accurate) would be a little over 5 watts on that battery - a bit cool for some people, but not all - yet 1.5Ω (if accurate) would be over 9 watts, which would fry every juice I vape. People have different preferences.

As far as "youll need some eventually anyways," the only things I have that are 1.5Ω are dripping attys. Yes, this entire post is about me, but I'm legion.

 

[Steam Turbine]

Thanks steam turbine. This is a whole new market from what I knew--(clearomizers and such) in its infancy and you went samurai on the bs/terminology for me. Even price shopped it from what I can tell.

I bought x2 of the 1100 5 piece vs the 6 piece 900 as it came to be only $5 more and doubled me on cables/chargers just in case.
Bought the lower resistance parts too. I def want more vape. Give me a light cigarette and I will just smoke enough of them to account a real one


So far so good. Some quick ?'s. How long should I expect those carto parts to last? And on that vape site about how far does 15ml get you? Is the juice on this site good/priced well in particular? Price wise bulk is looking to be the way to go for sure


Also whats the lay rundown on spinners/higer gear? I'm commited to trying this (bought all but juice) but if things work out smoothly I'm interested in an elementary understanding of the finer things w/o getting too technical

That juice site have the lowest price I ever seen for quality american liquid. 15ml should get you very easily thru a week. and for 5$ a pop get some different flavors. gets some tobacco flavors for sure (which by the way will not taste like a burning cigarette. No juice taste like smokeit will taste like fresh tobacco) but wander off the beaten path a little and try some other flavors... Ask yourself: would I like to eat that? If so, try it. you could be surprised.

As for the spinners, ego twist vamo, provari etc.... They are what is called Variable Voltage devices. Meaning that depending on the electrical resistance of the heating element that is in your device (carto, clearo, tanks and what not) you can adjust the output of your battery to have the coil (heating element) fire hotter or cooler. In simple terms... The higher the ohms (resistance) the higher you want the voltage to be... The lower the ohms the lower the voltage. Thats why I told you to get some 1.5 ohms heads, which in vaping terms, is considered low resistance, whereas 2.6 ohms is rather high.

The batteries you've got are 3.7 volts batteries but will fire a little under that voltage so a 1.5 is a pretty good match for that battery. A 2.6 ohms coil would require more power to heat up at a good vaping tempature...

That's where a variable voltage device comes in handy. You could pump up the voltage of your battery to somewhere around 5 volts and get a good vape out of that 2.6 ohm coil.

Its all about Ohm's Law but instead of using math to calculate it... You can taste it! You wont taste anything if it's to low, and it will taste burned if it's to high.

But with the battery you've bought. You wont have to worry about any of that...

As for the clearomizer you've bought, the Evod. It will last for as long as you don't break it... You will only need to change the heads.... And once again, you will taste it. when it taste like crap (can last you as long as a month) change it. They are very cheap to replace.

Hopefully this wasn't to overwhelming (probably was) but hey! That's the game.... It will all make sence to you very soon.

 

[Steam Turbine]

I tend to cringe with advice starting with Get, as opposed to a suggestion, but that's just a personal thing with me.

My comment on this suggestion is the resistance of the replacement heads. Perhaps a variety resistances might be a better recommendation. The kit doesn't appear to be variable voltage and generic eGo are ≈3.7v. 2.6Ω heads (if accurate) would be a little over 5 watts on that battery - a bit cool for some people, but not all - yet 1.5Ω (if accurate) would be over 9 watts, which would fry every juice I vape.

As far as "youll need some eventually anyways," the only things I have that are 1.5Ω are dripping attys. Yes, this entire post is about me, but I'm legion.

Sorry if I sounded like "I know the ultimate kit that you need" its 3:00 am lol.

your suggestion is right that maby he could get some 1.8 and 2 ohms as well but under load... an ego will not fire at 3.7, not for a long time at least, I never burnt any juices with an simple ego battery.

 

[addictedschizo]

Takes an awful lot to make me cringe. I ignore text and try to live on subtext. Imma grammar liberal. Besides the world is quite suggestive enough for my tastes always trying to suggest a sale with imagery and advert dollars and I much prefer a pro/con this rocks that no rock so much approach.

I did buy the 1.5's just because I figured it would make it more heavy and my experience in the long past has been contrary to that. I also get the defaults in the kit so that covers variation. I suppose I will know soon enough what works best. As for you'll need them anyways thats prob right. I'm guessing they still wear out but honestly I really don't know I'm very green to this scene. Dripping atty? Leaking atoms? Enough of this scary psychics stuff I just want to smoke peaceably in the least damaging format. Diy crowds can be hard people to understand but hey the reviews and advice are always > than the site that has financial motivation in suggesting only the positive.

Thanks everyone. PS ocelots r awesome

 

[Steam Turbine]

I just want to smoke peaceably in the least damaging format.

You won't be smoking anymore! You'll be vaping!