Any plans for a bottom coil tank?

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Just wondering if a bottom coil tank has been proposed? I really like the current tanks; my only complaint is that even though they're 2.4ml, realistically they're 1-1.4ml at best. And you start to lose flavor under 2ml.

Maybe I have the wrong idea about bottom coil tanks, but wouldn't they take care of these things? I hear (and it makes sense) that a bottom coil doesn't vape as warm, but I think the upcoming twist would take care of that. Whenever that may be, anyway.
 

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Just wondering if a bottom coil tank has been proposed? I really like the current tanks; my only complaint is that even though they're 2.4ml, realistically they're 1-1.4ml at best. And you start to lose flavor under 2ml.

Maybe I have the wrong idea about bottom coil tanks, but wouldn't they take care of these things? I hear (and it makes sense) that a bottom coil doesn't vape as warm, but I think the upcoming twist would take care of that. Whenever that may be, anyway.

The Kanger T3 comes in both eGo and vGo versions. The vGo T3 works with the Triton battery. EVC carries them: Kanger T3 vGo (808D-1) Bottom Coil Clearomizer - EVcigarettes.com
 

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By the way JR, bottom coil tanks are little different from top coil, as far as how they operate with decreasing amounts of ejuice. In fact, it is recommended that the T3 be no more than 1/3 from full in order to get the best performance.

It is not so much the flow of ejuice to the coil, as it is the internal pressure giving the best flavor and vapor flow.

For myself, I am not a huge fan of bottom coil clearomizers, but like anything esle, YMMV.
 

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I have pretty much come to the conclusion that I do not like bottom coils. I tried the SI version of the T3 and hate it. Very cool and flavorless vape after a few puffs. And it leaks like crazy. The Nano was nasty right from the start. And the CE3/Phoenix was ok while it worked. But they are a PITA to fill and they leak after a few uses too. I really wish someone would come out with a bottom coil that performed like a top coil. The thing I don't like about top coil is constantly having to tilt to keep the wicks wet. And the bigger capacity top coils are pretty much useless once they get to about a 1/3 juice left. Kinda defeats the purpose of having a bigger capacity.
 

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I have pretty much come to the conclusion that I do not like bottom coils. I tried the SI version of the T3 and hate it. Very cool and flavorless vape after a few puffs. And it leaks like crazy. The Nano was nasty right from the start. And the CE3/Phoenix was ok while it worked. But they are a PITA to fill and they leak after a few uses too. I really wish someone would come out with a bottom coil that performed like a top coil. The thing I don't like about top coil is constantly having to tilt to keep the wicks wet. And the bigger capacity top coils are pretty much useless once they get to about a 1/3 juice left. Kinda defeats the purpose of having a bigger capacity.

Yep, I'm with you on both counts. Truth is that I don't know any clearomizer that performs well at lower ejuice levels. However, keep in mind that this is equally true for cartomizers, you just don't see the reduced level. When I go out I still like cartomizers, but to me, when they hit the lower level of vaping performance or get to that "burnt" taste, they are actually almost 50% of capacity, as a new carto takes about 20 drops of ejuice, but when I refill, they seldom need more than 10 drops.

While I have vaped a Triton tank down to 30% or even less with decent vaping, they certainly work best when topped off.

The few bottom coil clearomizers that I've used universally leak...if not at first, pretty quickly after usage. While hot hits are less frequent, on the other hand cooler, lighter vapor has also been the case. I might pick up a couple of T3 vGo's just for variety, but IMHO the Triton tank is about as an effective a vaping solution as I've seen. To date (and I vape a lot!), not one has leaked a single time. As long as you make a habbit to check the coil seating when topping off/refilling, problems should be pretty rare.

Some folks claim that the Triton wicks best if you trim about 1/4" off them, but I have yet to try it myself. No clearo/carto that I've used is 100% perfect, but these are the best that I've used to date.
 

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I figured a bottom coil clearo would be good for the entire volume. I get tired of topping off and tilting/swirling to keep juice at or near the very top. That was my main reason for inquiring about a bottom coil. I'll stick with what I've got if I'm trading an inconvenience for different headaches.

As Garemlin said, not being able to use the entire volume of the tank defeats the purpose of have a large capacity tank. You'd think it would be easy to be able to use the entire tank without topping off or having to leave extra room at the top.

I don't see what they can't make a bottom coil tank with a sealed bottom like the Triton tank. Instead of the coil threading on top of the post, it could thread into the bottom and make the post long enough to reach the top like it currently does.

I'm not engineer, so maybe I'm over-simplifying it.
 

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I think that clearomizers, or at least some type of ejuice delivery system can still use improvement JR...none of 'em are perfect.

Problem is that you are also figuring in cost. Even some of the more expensive large mod tanks are not without issues. One of the issues with current bottom coil units are that you ahve to be much more careful filling them, as the post is well below the point where you add ejuice and it is easy to slop it into the center post.

One thing that I really appreciate about Triton tanks is that the post is well above the point that you add the ejuice, pretty near impossible to screw up filling them. To me, any clearo that unscrews at the bottom is problematic.
 

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I think that clearomizers, or at least some type of ejuice delivery system can still use improvement JR...none of 'em are perfect.

Problem is that you are also figuring in cost. Even some of the more expensive large mod tanks are not without issues. One of the issues with current bottom coil units are that you ahve to be much more careful filling them, as the post is well below the point where you add ejuice and it is easy to slop it into the center post.

One thing that I really appreciate about Triton tanks is that the post is well above the point that you add the ejuice, pretty near impossible to screw up filling them. To me, any clearo that unscrews at the bottom is problematic.

Aren't the Triton tanks essentially the same as a Kanger T2. And also the Smokeless Image X2. Though the X2 don't have replaceable coils.

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From what I have seen of the Kanger t2, the Kanger has tiny wicks. The wicks in the Triton tanks are at least twice as long.

Yeah the SI X2 have real long wicks too. Just not replaceable coils. I'm surprised they don't put wicks coming out covering all sides. Kinda like an X pattern. Seems like all clearos just have them coming out two sides.

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Not sure. Wicks all around may draw in too much liquid. When I first switched out a coil head, I had enough trouble with the 2 wicks. 4 would be a nightmare. I slowly twist them now as I screw them in, making sure not to get a thread in the part the head screws in. Took some practice, but I got it down.
 

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From what I have seen of the Kanger t2, the Kanger has tiny wicks. The wicks in the Triton tanks are at least twice as long.

google "Kanger T2 long wick" :D

there are TONS of variation from Kanger for this one type of head, trust me. IMO, shorter wicks worked better. Yes, you have to tilt'n swirl, but that's a small price for better taste and less burning.
 

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I haven't had any burning issues, but I'm on a once a week coil replacement program for my tanks. I do have a bunch of the mini tanks I use to test new flavors. They have short wicks, but don't seem to have better taste than the large tanks, but they do seem to heat up fairly quick.
Maybe I'll cut down the wicks on a new coil head and give short wicks a try.
 

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From what I have seen of the Kanger t2, the Kanger has tiny wicks. The wicks in the Triton tanks are at least twice as long.

Also, the T2 coils are interchangeable with the Triton coils, so one could try the shorter T2 wicks. I think that it all comes down to user preference, some will prefer the shorter wicks while others may be happier with the longer ones. Personally, I have no issue with the Triton tank wicks as they are. I have vaped down a Triton tank pretty low without having any issues save a slightly reduced vape once the level drops, but it was easy to keep the coil properly fed. Shorter wicks may indeed have advantages, but the primary disadvantage would be to necessitate refilling at a higher capacity. I may try trimming the wicks modestly just to experiment however.
 
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Yeah, I think the long wicks are a great advantage. No point in even having a big tank, if the tank has to be filled when it gets below half. I have vaped down to where the only juice left is on the saturated wicks. No problems.

I burnt a coil or two when the juice was down to a little less than 1ml remaining. Maybe it was coincidence, maybe it was the volume, or maybe it was the Tiki Juice; Tiki Juice is the only juice I burned a coil with (maybe that's coincidence too?).

Do I potentially sacrifice a coil to find out how far down I can go? That's my current dilemma, I guess. Thanks for making my life more complicated :D
 
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