Any point in the MVP2 ?

[angelphyre]

When I got my vv3 for Christmas, I was absolutely sure that that was it for me, that I would never want the MVP2. I just couldn't see myself with a box mod. Well I love my vv3, think it's great, but the more I kept looking at the MVP and seeing others talk about it, I decided I had to have one, just because I wanted it!

So last weekend I ordered one for an early birthday present for myself. I got it this weekend, and I'm in love! Yes they both do everything the same, but I do like the feel of the MVP in my hand! And actually I'm using both as I like to have 2 tanks of juice going at the same time without having to change them out.

Now that I'm happy with my battery(s), it's on to new tanks and juices!

 

[FStopFive]

Hi All. I recently purchased two Innokin iTazte VV 3.0s and I've been wondering if there is any point in purchasing an MVP2. Obviously the battery will far outlast that in the vv, but since I've got two of them...dunno. Is there any other reason why the addition of an MVP2 would be warranted? Thanks for your replies.

Having first purchased a VV 3.0, wondered the same, and then purchased an MVP 2 (probably about 4 months ago), I can say the answer is an emphatic yes.

I don't regret purchasing the VV, but it'd be very easy to once you start using the MVP.

 

[edyle]

Having first purchased a VV 3.0, wondered the same, and then purchased an MVP 2 (probably about 4 months ago), I can say the answer is an emphatic yes.

I don't regret purchasing the VV, but it'd be very easy to once you start using the MVP.

So how is your VV3 going? I am trying to find out whether they continue working as passthroughs long after the battery becomes useless; no answers so far.

 

[FStopFive]

So how is your VV3 going? I am trying to find out whether they continue working as passthroughs long after the battery becomes useless; no answers so far.

Honestly I don't use it all that much anymore. I still use it maybe 3-5 times a week, but so infrequently that I'm only needing to charge it maybe once a week.

As to whether they continue to work on passthrough only, that's a good question. If the battery is completely dead and you plug it in, I don't even think you'd be able to get it to turn on to use it as a passthrough. Granted, this is pure speculation, and I'm not all that smart, so take this for what it's worth.

 

[DanJMag]

So how is your VV3 going? I am trying to find out whether they continue working as passthroughs long after the battery becomes useless; no answers so far.

In PBusardo's review he indicated that the vv does not have a true passthrough, but that if you use it while charging you are actually drawing power from the vv battery, and not directly from the USB power source. As such, I would have to think that if the battery was useless, it would not function in any passthrough capacity. Btw, same goes for the MVP2.

 

[Rossum]

The vaporshark dna seems to use an odd power plug?

Yes, when they introduced the DNA 30 version with that proprietary charging cable, it caused quite a stir among those of us who already own the DNA 20 version with micro-USB. Now they offer your choice of either.

 

[BigCatDaddy]

So how is your VV3 going? I am trying to find out whether they continue working as passthroughs long after the battery becomes useless; no answers so far.

I've got one that was my first batt when I started vaping. Still going strong, so I can't help....so far.

 

[edyle]

Honestly I don't use it all that much anymore. I still use it maybe 3-5 times a week, but so infrequently that I'm only needing to charge it maybe once a week.

As to whether they continue to work on passthrough only, that's a good question. If the battery is completely dead and you plug it in, I don't even think you'd be able to get it to turn on to use it as a passthrough. Granted, this is pure speculation, and I'm not all that smart, so take this for what it's worth.

That's what I am trying to find out, because:
- if you can't use your battery for 5 minutes before it needs rechargeing, it will probably still work passthrough
- if you can't use your battery for 1 minute before it needs rechargeing, it will probably still work passthrough
- what about 5 seconds
- what about 1 second.

The point is, maybe with the VV3, it might still be useable as a passthrough for a long long time after the battery is too unuseable to walk around with; maybe even for years; that's what I want to figure out. Can you imagine not having to buy a battery for years AND get VW?!

I used to vape plugged in mostly, at home, but only have regulated voltage, but not VW on the cord; now I'm using batteries because the mods have VW, and a wider range too - I tend to vape low power, high VG.

 

[Rossum]

In PBusardo's review he indicated that the vv does not have a true passthrough, but that if you use it while charging you are actually drawing power from the vv battery, and not directly from the USB power source.

Right, that's because a standard USB port is rated to provide 500 mA @ 5V. That's 2.5 watts and is not going to provide a very satisfying vape. Are there USB pass-through devices that don't have a battery in them? Yep, but they require special USB power sources that can provide more than a standard port can, while the VV doesn't.

That's what I am trying to find out, because:
- if you can't use your battery for 5 minutes before it needs rechargeing, it will probably still work passthrough
- if you can't use your battery for 1 minute before it needs rechargeing, it will probably still work passthrough
- what about 5 seconds
- what about 1 second.

The point is, maybe with the VV3, it might still be useable as a passthrough for a long long time after the battery is too unuseable to walk around with; maybe even for years; that's what I want to figure out. Can you imagine not having to buy a battery for years AND get VW?!

Right. And when it fails entirely, well.. Put it in perspective: You most likely paid less for it than a carton of 'traditional cigarettes' would have cost you.

 

[Ninjo]

Personally, the ohm checker sells it all by itself.

 

[KY92]

Can't give much comparison since I don't have the VV, but you really can't beat the battery life of the MVP. Only having to carry one device all day long, probably 3-4 days if you switch back and forth should be a big plus! It has also saved me on many occasions from having a dead phone as well

 

[Pkmachinegun]

I love my MVP. It's my daily vape with a pt2 (soon to be R91) and it's perfect for me.


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[markn86]

I have Mvp v1 and really dont see the need to have vw imo

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[Momster]

FWIW, the VV V3.0 also has the capability to check the resistance of your topper. If you hold both buttons, the first thing displayed is the resistance of the atty attached. The differences between the V3.0 and the MVP 2.0 are the form factor and greater battery capacity of the MVP.

 

[edyle]

Right, that's because a standard USB port is rated to provide 500 mA @ 5V. That's 2.5 watts and is not going to provide a very satisfying vape. Are there USB pass-through devices that don't have a battery in them? Yep, but they require special USB power sources that can provide more than a standard port can, while the VV doesn't.


Right. And when it fails entirely, well.. Put it in perspective: You most likely paid less for it than a carton of 'traditional cigarettes' would have cost you.

1: actually a mini passthrough certainly does not *require* a special usb power source at all, but with lower power usb ports your power is limited to that lower power; it so happens I tend to vape low power, high VG, so works perfectly fine for me.

2: Let me try this as an example:
I kinda expect a vv3 battery to last me about 3 months, as a battery.
If it still works as passthrough for only another month or less after that, then I wouldn't be interested in getting one.
If it still works as passthrough for another year after that... ok, now I'm interested.

 

[Rossum]

1: actually a mini passthrough certainly does not *require* a special usb power source at all, but with lower power usb ports your power is limited to that lower power; it so happens I tend to vape low power, high VG, so works perfectly fine for me.

If you can get a satisfying vape at 2.5 watts, great, but I don't think I can. I tend to vape between 7 and 13 watts.

2: Let me try this as an example:
I kinda expect a vv3 battery to last me about 3 months, as a battery.

Why are your expectations so low? The battery should last a few hundred charge cycles, by which time it might have lost 20-30% of its capacity. If you're going to give it more than one full cycle a day, you should probably get something with a higher-capacity battery, like an MVP.

If it still works as passthrough for only another month or less after that, then I wouldn't be interested in getting one.
If it still works as passthrough for another year after that... ok, now I'm interested.

If you don't cycle it hard, a lithium-ion battery should lose no more than about 20% of its capacity per year.

In principle, there's no reason why one shouldn't be able to get a few years out of a device with a non-replaceable battery. Think about it, how long does a phone battery last?

 

[gsaman12]

The MVP v2 also has a output usb slot to charge other electronics off if you dont have a wall outlet nearby. and with its 2600 maH its plenty to vape and charge

 

[edyle]

If you can get a satisfying vape at 2.5 watts, great, but I don't think I can. I tend to vape between 7 and 13 watts.

Quote Originally Posted by edyle View Post
2: Let me try this as an example:
I kinda expect a vv3 battery to last me about 3 months, as a battery.

Why are your expectations so low? The battery should last a few hundred charge cycles, by which time it might have lost 20-30% of its capacity. If you're going to give it more than one full cycle a day, you should probably get something with a higher-capacity battery, like an MVP.


If you don't cycle it hard, a lithium-ion battery should lose no more than about 20% of its capacity per year.

In principle, there's no reason why one shouldn't be able to get a few years out of a device with a non-replaceable battery. Think about it, how long does a phone battery last?

1: why expectations so low;
vv3 seems like a small eGo capacity type battery, and those eGo size batteries have lasted me about that long.

2: i can chain vape alot;
somebody puffing on 24mg occassionally might have an eGo battery working for a few years but vape low to 0mg.

 

[Curly1203]

I had an ego type battery, 1100mah that I have had for about four months. It is "giving up the ghost". So yesterday I was looking for a replacement battery and due to all the talk about the MVP I ordered one on sale. I like the idea of the long lasting battery, I was charging my ego every day and sometimes it would not last for a full day. So we will see how the MVP will work. Kinda excited about getting something new.

Curly

 

[Michelen7]

I really want a polished provari mini but think the mvp 2 will have to do.