Anyone else just get confused?

[MotherOfCats]

I feel like the more I look and try to learn, the more confused I get. Then I just want to bash my head into a wall and just give up on the whole damn thing. Trying to decide on a better tank than my cheapo ones and I'm literally overwhelmed by it all. Sub-ohm, low resistance, standard resistance, bottom coil, top coil...Will it work with my current battery? Won't it? What is a VV voltage battery and why do I need it? Why won't one tank work but another that looks the same will? There is so much out there and not one website says things the same way as another! Gah!!!!

 

[SleeZy]

I can feel your pain and confusion... So many new stuff recent year.
When i started there wasn't awefully much to choose from. But even then i feelt overwhelmed in the start.
But i quickly gained interest of vaping so i loved reading anything about it.

But yea today... There's sooo much to choose from and i see why that is confusing for a beginner.

What do you vape on currently? Or are you looking to buy your first vape?

 

[Rabbit Slayer]

I found a ton of great info on a few youtube channels...
pbusardo - YouTube
Ruby Roo - YouTube
GrimmGreen - YouTube
three of my top ones

 

[dcfluegel]

I can understand completely where you are coming from - in addition to the technical and safety aspects with vaping, there are a plethora of triggers for teh shiny syndrome - this forum is a great place to ask questions and get answers that should make some bit of sense... take a deep (non cigaretted) breath - I think the key is finding what works for you - for your vaping style, preferences and palate

it seems that products are hitting the market so dang fast now that the information can't quite keep up with the shiny - one of the keys I am finding is to wait a little, and see how things are being reviewed before I start worrying about if I need it (though I could definitely use some practice with the waiting thing...)

 

[edyle]

I feel like the more I look and try to learn, the more confused I get. Then I just want to bash my head into a wall and just give up on the whole damn thing. Trying to decide on a better tank than my cheapo ones and I'm literally overwhelmed by it all. Sub-ohm, low resistance, standard resistance, bottom coil, top coil...Will it work with my current battery? Won't it? What is a VV voltage battery and why do I need it? Why won't one tank work but another that looks the same will? There is so much out there and not one website says things the same way as another! Gah!!!!

Whatever you used to spend before per month on cigarettes
Budget HALF of that per month on vape stuff for 1 year.

Chaulk it up to the price of learning

 

[Lessifer]

I'm going to guess you have an ego type battery, and it's probably one where you can't adjust the voltage. Typically those are set to 3.7v and that's your power. Different resistances will take that power and give you a different type of vape, typically lower resistance gives you more vapor, but you have to stay within what your battery can safely handle. For an ego you want to stay between 1.5 ohm and 2.4 ohm.

If you were to get a VV Variable Voltage battery, you could adjust your power level to get a vape that is more dialed in to what you like, but for a VV ego you'd still want to stay in the same resistance range.

If you tell us what you have, and what you're looking for, we can probably give some suggestions.

There are a LOT of choices out there, luckily you've found this place, and there's always someone here who can help you along.

Welcome to ECF!

 

[Ou2mame]

You have to separate the hardware into classes. Say class 1 is cartridge cigalikes, class 2 is ego threaded tanks like spinner batteries and aspire et-s tanks. Class 3 is box mods like the istick 20w and non subohm tanks like the aspire nautilus mini, class 4 would be sub ohming, with a higher wattage devices like an istick 30w or ipv mini 2 or ipv 4 or any number of high wattage box mods, and a subtank mini running a 0.5 coil, class 5 would be higher wattage devices running a rebuildable subohm tank like the lemo 2 below 0.5 ohm.

So if you had an ipv mini 2, you could use any tank below it. If you had an istick 30w, you could use any tank below that, but it doesn't supply the power to run a 0.2 coil.

I don't know if it makes any sense to think of it like that. The lower the ohm, the more watts you need. A spinner 2 puts out max 10w or so, so you would have to stay with something below the Nautilus mini realistically since those like to be run on the 15w range. So you would be better off with an istick 30 or another higher wattage battery since you can adjust it down and you can also use tanks that require more power.

Basically what I ask people when they are looking for a new device is what do you have now and what don't you like about it and go from there. There are plenty of options and it can be confusing if you don't know what's out there and how one thing affects another.

 

[Rixsta]

I feel like the more I look and try to learn, the more confused I get. Then I just want to bash my head into a wall and just give up on the whole damn thing. Trying to decide on a better tank than my cheapo ones and I'm literally overwhelmed by it all. Sub-ohm, low resistance, standard resistance, bottom coil, top coil...Will it work with my current battery? Won't it? What is a VV voltage battery and why do I need it? Why won't one tank work but another that looks the same will? There is so much out there and not one website says things the same way as another! Gah!!!!

Lets make a starting point so we can help more, it can be overwhelming.

Is it a sub tank that you are after ?
Do you mouth to lung or inhale directly to the lungs, which is what the sub tanks are designed to do?

 

[Rixsta]

Hi， @Ou2mame I do not quite under this sentence. Can you explain it? Thanks so much!

Good read here...

The Vaper`s Guide to Voltage, Watts & Ohms (Plus Discount)

 

[runamok]

I called it an 'info O. D.' I knew very little about vapeing and was using loaner fixed voltage ego's with kanger mini protank. I then got a spinner II variable and put the tank on that. Not much difference since I liked running at the lowest volt. Then I got a Provari and use a Sophia by Leo on it. I like this set up but wouldn't suggest the Sophia to a new comer. They have their quirks. The Provari with either a Kanger 2 or3 protank,or Aspire Nautilus are good dependable set up's. It really comes down to what you want outta vapeing. There's so many different products cause everyone has their own wants & needs from vapeing.
Post up your set up and talk about how you like to vape, and you'll find your way with good advice. Don't stress and stay off the cigs!!! Welcome to the family.

 

[Bunnykiller]

the really hard part about vaping is knowing what you want out of it.... once you figure out that, choosing the hardware is easy...

 

[Alien Traveler]

I feel like the more I look and try to learn, the more confused I get. Then I just want to bash my head into a wall and just give up on the whole damn thing. Trying to decide on a better tank than my cheapo ones and I'm literally overwhelmed by it all. Sub-ohm, low resistance, standard resistance, bottom coil, top coil...Will it work with my current battery? Won't it? What is a VV voltage battery and why do I need it? Why won't one tank work but another that looks the same will? There is so much out there and not one website says things the same way as another! Gah!!!!

In a new thread please explain us what you want to change compared to your current setup (more convenience, more vapor, longer battery life, to make vaping a hobby, all the above). Also, what you do not like with your setup. Right now you have too many too different advises and it is really too difficult to make sense of them.

 

[DingerCPA]

Welcome @MotherOfCats (I am also a Mother of Cat )

There's a decent "Stepping up to the next Vape" discussion (as well as a lot of other good info) here: Baditude's blog | E-Cigarette Forum

Give those a read - it might help with all the overwhelming amount of information that's out here now.

I started vaping seriously about 16 months ago. Started with Spinners and EVOD tanks. I kept dipping my toes in the water after reading what others were using. The available offerings have grown exponentially in the past 6-8 months.

I try to break things down as simply as possible
Form Factor - do you want a "Stick", a "Tube" or a "Box"?
Batteries - do you want to replace them (and recharge) or do you want them internal?
Tanks/Toppers - do you want a volume of liquid (tank) or do you want to add little bits at a time (RDA/Dripper)?
Tanks/Toppers - do you want to replace with a pre-built/stock head or do you want to rebuild?
Tanks/Toppers - do you like a tighter draw (more like a cigarette) or do you want an airy draw?

Once you start honing in on the "simpler" choices, then you have to explore battery capabilities to go with the topper (again, good reads in Baditude's blog articles)

I'm now sitting on a couple of iSticks (30 & 50), a couple of iPV Minis (original and V2) as well as ProTanks, Nautiluses, Kanger Subtanks, a couple of Kayfun clones and a handful of RDAs.

My daily setup is either a Nautilus or a Protank2 on an iStick (best portability for me). When I'm at home, I may be futzing with a build in a kayfun, Subtank, or an RDA.

It's a journey, for sure, if you feel that it has to be. I successfully quit smoking with a Spinner and an EVOD. I have only "upped my game" because I'm curious and I want to try new things. Many others are still running with the same setups with which they started. Try to think about what you want to achieve with your vape, and then it's less confusing

 

[retired1]

I feel like the more I look and try to learn, the more confused I get.

Look at it this way. It's good practice for when you have teenagers in the house. At that point, you'll be comfortable with the constant state of confusion and it won't be so overwhelming.

There is an over abundance of information here. The best advice we can give is to take your time, ask questions, and eventually you'll understand what works best for you. Don't think you need to jump on the latest and greatest thing in order to succeed. Often, the simplest solutions work best for new vapers.

 

[djsvapour]

It can be very confusing..

BUT.. we can help.

What have you got? (battery and tank) and
What do you want to improve?

I bet the members of this forum can recommend anything from a small upgrade to a jump to vaping super-equipment.

 

[Ou2mame]

Hi， @Ou2mame I do not quite under this sentence. Can you explain it? Thanks so much!

The formula is volts x volts / ohm = watts

What that means is, the lower your ohm, the more watts you need to achieve your desired voltage, which correlates to heat. So if you want 450 degrees of heat, at 4 volts, you need more watts to power a lower ohm coil. The lower ohm your coil, the more vapor you will produce. So if you want more vapor you need lower ohm and to run the lower ohm you need more power.

 

[MotherOfCats]

Right now I have 2 Kanger EVOD 1000mAh batteries, two Haus eGo batteries that I got on sale at my work (that was my first starter kit to try and see if I liked vamping). I ditched those tanks buy keep the batteries as backups. I also have a Kanger EVOD 1100 battery. I also have a Vista Nova starter kit from Vista Vapors. I have a couple Smok Tech tanks, a couple Innokin iClear 30 tanks which I don't really care for and a handful of cheap CE4s I've picked up for testing flavors. I love my Smok Tech T-Dux tanks, I've decided I prefer the bottom coil tanks. I am interested in a VV battery, one of the less advanced complicated ones. Maybe a twist. I'm really looking for some good quality tanks as well. I like the small capacity ones because I get bored of juices quickly.


I would like to learn more about VV batteries and the different higher quality tanks. I am also interested in dripping old-school 510 style. RDA/RBAs are far too confusing right now.

 

[DingerCPA]

Check this site out: http://www.liberty-flights.com/batteries/afa.asp?idWebPage=67739&CATID=214 They're having a liquidation sale, and some of these prices are phenomenal.

 

[DingerCPA]

Criminey! The VV is all gone - I swore when I posted that link that it wasn't marked out of stock!!!!! Might find some toppers there.... Juice looks pretty inexpensive, too.

 

[Frenchfry1942]

Like any hobby, it takes me a bit of organized learning. One thing that I did early on was to make a list of terms and products that I did not know when I was just reading the "what's New" posts. Then I just used the search bar or asked, AND, I wrote it down for reference.

For I while I dumped reference posts in my blog so that I could come back to it, but now, more so, copy it to my desktop. When that starts to get full, I just spend time reviewing and moving the better stuff to storage.

Today, I was learning and chatting. I am grateful. I try to have patience with others and I hope they have patience with me. Making fun of others is just a form of bullying.

Vaping is a big world. But, it is a healthy world compared to smoking.