Anyone have a clone recipe for BeetleGeuse by Nicoticket?

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jjordan

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I am not sure if I spelled that right but was wondering if anyone had a clone recipe for BeetleGeuse that is made by Nicoticket? I am throwing my hat in the DIY ring and giving it a go, so I am looking at recipes to follow for new juices to try and ones that have positive feedback from fellow DIYers! I am opening my own B&M so I have to learn how to mix juice eventually right, why not try it at home, and if I like any of your recipes I will give you credit in my store if I use it, I will just need your real name which I will get from you via private message. I want to have over 100+ flavors when I open my store later this year early next year so here I sit sifting through the recipes! LOL I swear I will give credit where credit is do the juice will be named so and so's blankity blank juice.
 

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I am not sure if I spelled that right but was wondering if anyone had a clone recipe for BeetleGeuse that is made by Nicoticket? I am throwing my hat in the DIY ring and giving it a go, so I am looking at recipes to follow for new juices to try and ones that have positive feedback from fellow DIYers! I am opening my own B&M so I have to learn how to mix juice eventually right, why not try it at home, and if I like any of your recipes I will give you credit in my store if I use it, I will just need your real name which I will get from you via private message. I want to have over 100+ flavors when I open my store later this year early next year so here I sit sifting through the recipes! LOL I swear I will give credit where credit is do the juice will be named so and so's blankity blank juice.

Give the credit to the artist himself. Not the impersonator. Good luck with your business. Just make sure you understand everything you need to know to become a juice maker. It isn't easy, and there are many risks to you and the public.
 

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Thanks advice well taken! And Kent I know I never could impersonate your juice heck I have never even tried it but I wondered if it was the same formula that my local B&M uses for their "Beetle juice" they just spell it differently, I live on SSI and cannot afford to try every juice out there that looks yummy so I stick with the ones I know are good...yours was voted #1 in fruit flavors on the web so it has to be good so I may just have to break down and spend a few dollars and give it a try to see if it is my ADV that I have been vaping for the last 4 months because buying it in bulk would be so much easier than with the price of gas driving to Beatrice 4 times a month to get a refill of 30ml because that is the biggest size they sell! Unless you wanna be a nice guy and send me a bottle to try ;) Just kidding! But Seriously you can if you want! :D
 

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I'll admit, BG is one of my favorite flavors, and I stuck my head in here to see if someone had a good recipe (though I doubt that would stop me from ordering from Clark - no clone is perfect). However, I think copying someone else's flavor and selling it is really uncool. It would be one thing if you were trying to make it for yourself to vape at home, but you shouldn't be making a profit off of someone else's creativity.

If you want to sell a good fruit blend juice, do some brainstorming, experiment, and come up with your own. Don't rip someone else's off.

Just my :2c:.
 

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don't you get free juice already from your v4l thing you are doing and have a lot from that going on-lol(sort of looked like you were joke- hinting for freebies from Kent here, I could be possibly reading you wrong)? If you never even tried a juice, why would you want to clone it; just because it's voted #1, and you now want to profit from that person's success? Or to have someone clone it for you and you give them "store credit", but you profit from it, and continue to do so if your business is actually a success, you don't think that's sort of, I don't know, "weird"/"wrong"? Wouldn't you rather want to do something original and unique on your own to be proud of to sell, blends and names, I mean that would be pretty cool, right? I'm just trying to figure some stuff out here, you are sort of a "unique one", scratching my head a little after reading some of your stuff, so no offense meant at all. I guess if people post their own personal recipes here on ecf, are they are going to be open target for you to lift and sell these as "your blends" possibly? Again, I may be reading you WAYYYY wrong, so no offense.
 

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I agree to many stores come to places like ECF scoop up recipes and call it a day. Then they wonder why half the people who buy their juice never return. Most don't know how to mix anything but TFA or what additives do or what people actually want. They don't test after long steeps and invest the time which means they have no clue how long to even steep what they sell. There is so much more to juice retailing then putting flavors in a bottle and trying to sell it. Most who are successful at making really good juice have substantial time and money invested in what they make. And there are more crap or average recipes given away than really good recipes. So good luck getting a hundred seriously good juices with zero investment.

Something you also need to think about is the fact that even if you made a hundred juices it's somewhat pointless. People will find the few they like and you will end up selling off the rest at cost to break even. I have seen it time and time again even in some very busy stores around me. And flavors that sat for months before getting discounted sometimes become flavor of the month at some point. So you will need to keep making even the unprofitable flavors. Otherwise your customers will see your selection shrinking and go elsewhere. Which means you either sell everything cheap to win some back or constantly rotate which will also turn many people away. Therefore you need money and LOTS of it if you really want to play the vape game.

I will break it down for you just to get a real start in the juice biz with a hundred flavors. You need at least half a dozen of every flavor in 5-6 strengths. That would equal about 3000+ bottles of juice just to open your doors. And you will need to buy bulk flavor sizes to maximize profit. Even if you buy bulk empty bottles at $.18 a piece that's going to cost around $.50 for every bottle of juice you make. And you will need far more flavoring and bottles on hand to restock your more popular juices quickly. I know guy that actually moves over a thousand bottles of juice per week and he has around $10k worth of juice making supplies on hand at any given time. That does not include the tens of thousands of dollars needed to buy a good assortment of hardware people want so they will actually visit your store.

No offense but I don't see how a guy living on a limited fixed income can pull it off. You will be in serious debt for a long time and if certain laws pass you could lose everything. So if your goal is to be able to make some good juice and make a few bucks there are more realistic ways of going about it. Starting off with reading the basics and coming out with a FEW of your own really good recipes. Better to make a hand full really good flavors of juice people would die to have rather then a hundred average flavors that nobody really wants. Which is the reason people will pay stupid prices for what is considered top shelf juice. Some people will go nuts trying to replicate stuff but at the end of the day most will fork over the cash and buy something they really enjoy.
 

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Dont try to steal someone else's hard work! That's just so not right. Make your own flavors. I can honestly tell you that nothing you make will even be half of what Kent sales at Nicoticket. He puts a lot of time, knowledge, and experience in each bottle. You can't do that considering you are already bypassing the hard work by trying to clone somebody else's work. :facepalm:

If you can't make your own unique recipes then please don't try to start an eliquid business. Nobody wants to buy clone recipes. Clone recipes are what individuals make at home for free. But a really good eliquid we continue to buy from the original maker. :vapor:
 

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The vaping world is a fickle one... On one hand, hardware cloning is practically encouraged for commercial reasons but juice cloning is not...

I'm not encouraging the idea, as I think that copying someone's creative work just demonstrates a lack of creativity on behalf of the copier! If you have the capabilities to clone, you also have the capability to be original!
 
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