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All I really want to know is, do I buy a bottle of that nicotine from CV? Then, if I want to make a ready made bottle of zero into 0.6mg, how much of that nicotine do I add per 10ml of ready made liquid? If I start looking at calculations and charts I just know I'll get it wrong! I'd rather hear it from someone who knows these things :rolleyes; in other words, I prefer to bow to your superior knowledge! ;)

I did notice that on the CV page for their own concentrates, they don't indicate a percentage! ...I'd sort of assume it's a bit similar to the Mom & Pop for instance whereas one 10ml bottle concentrate makes around 5x10ml bottles of usable liquid.

I'm shy at things like that ...we have an after wedding garden party to go to in September and I'm dreading it! :( I don't even go to my own gallery openings ...it's like hanging your soul on the wall!
It is nice that Bob won something, and even nicer is that he's sending it to me! How thoughtful!
You 'lot' really are a nice bunch :) ....except when Terry and Ron get too many E numbers! :laugh: :facepalm:

Sorry about that Trisha, I logged out before your question popped up.

Terry is right about the calculations. But to be honest, I'd just stick with mixing your 2 different strength juices to make up the one you want. One you get into mixing nicotine solution, you need to take a few precautions - well ventilated room and gloves. 72 mg nic juice isn't highly toxic, but it's best to air on the side of caution. Plus once you start adding nicotine and VG to pre-mixed juices, you're diluting the flavour too. Stick with the easy option is my advice. Places like Nicoticket, maximise the flavouring for each strength of juice they make, once you start altering that, things can start tasting off.

To give you an example :
When I mix Berry Blast, I mix it at 19mg nic strength and use a slightly higher VG percentage. But when I mix Terry's Jungle Juice, I mix it at 20mg nic strength and use a slightly higher PG percentage. Both juices "feel" like their 18mg strength and the PG/VG ratio is maximised for taste on each one. Sounds complicated I know :laugh:

As i said Ian i am in no rush at all for any juices. If you do get round to making some in the future i would suggest making it a tiny bit stronger than the chefs one, although i found it very nice, like trish said it was lacking just that little bit. I wont bother with the hybrid kits then ian, seems like a bit of a pointless exercise to me, and i don`t mind seams at all, especially on the back of black fishnet stockings :facepalm: And that is your fault trish. :lol:

I'll see what flavour percentage they recommend and double it then Terry, I like my juices strong :laugh: No extra charge for flavour shots at Ian's lab ;)

I used to sell fishnet stockings, seriously :D

I'm a bit of an introvert myself, it's just a gathering of London and South East (LSE) vapers, the organiser hires the upstairs of the pub, must have a proper chat with him next time, but normally UKeCigStore have a presence, shame that they weren't there on Saturday, as I wanted to ask them a question re the Kato pre-order.



Your one is on it's way posted a couple of hours ago, and now you've made me spend some more money :laugh: ordered the frappuccino, raspberry raffle (love the real ones), and P&M Vanilla Custard & Whipped Cream to go with the Lew's Brew, but this time I'm trying a 70/30 mix to enhance the flavour, just hope the 1st 2 don't give me too much throat hit.

Sounds like a good night still Bob. When I start talking about coils, wicks and ohms, most people start to glaze over. But to have a captive audience like that, my idea of heaven :D

I thought me and Terry have been very gentlemanly lately trish and we have stayed away from the E numbers lately

and I have cleaned under the bed just in case of emergency's but don't think I will need it as I have learnt my lesson so all is good sounds like everyone is happy at the moment with there vape and long may it continue

I may of got a bit of vapers tongue myself as I keep getting awful tastes but I will vape through it as I know it cant be my coils or wicks as I have them down to a fine art at the moment but everything seems to taste the same

Ron, just vape some juice that you're not over keen on until it passes. Or as E-pipe said, menthol juice, chillies and gallons of water.


Very nice mate, good selection of tips too. Has my drip tip fetish rubbed off on you too :laugh:
 

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Sorry about that Trisha, I logged out before your question popped up.

Terry is right about the calculations. But to be honest, I'd just stick with mixing your 2 different strength juices to make up the one you want. One you get into mixing nicotine solution, you need to take a few precautions - well ventilated room and gloves. 72 mg nic juice isn't highly toxic, but it's best to air on the side of caution. Plus once you start adding nicotine and VG to pre-mixed juices, you're diluting the flavour too. Stick with the easy option is my advice. Places like Nicoticket, maximise the flavouring for each strength of juice they make, once you start altering that, things can start tasting off.

To give you an example :
When I mix Berry Blast, I mix it at 19mg nic strength and use a slightly higher VG percentage. But when I mix Terry's Jungle Juice, I mix it at 20mg nic strength and use a slightly higher PG percentage. Both juices "feel" like their 18mg strength and the PG/VG ratio is maximised for taste on each one. Sounds complicated I know :laugh:



I'll see what flavour percentage they recommend and double it then Terry, I like my juices strong :laugh: No extra charge for flavour shots at Ian's lab ;)

I used to sell fishnet stockings, seriously :D



Sounds like a good night still Bob. When I start talking about coils, wicks and ohms, most people start to glaze over. But to have a captive audience like that, my idea of heaven :D



Ron, just vape some juice that you're not over keen on until it passes. Or as E-pipe said, menthol juice, chillies and gallons of water.


I used to sell fishnet stockings, seriously :D
Very nice mate, good selection of tips too. Has my drip tip fetish rubbed off on you too :laugh:

I think under my bed is clear, ( i bet trish was one of your best customers ) :facepalm:

And yeah i think i may have caught something off you mate :p Just sick of the S/S ones now and need a change, plus they are bloody horrible in winter. :(

I see they are selling wood tips as well now, but they look a bit cheap and nasty to me.

And post, and run off to the bedroom.
 

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I think under my bed is clear, ( i bet trish was one of your best customers ) :facepalm:

And yeah i think i may have caught something off you mate :p Just sick of the S/S ones now and need a change, plus they are bloody horrible in winter. :(

I see they are selling wood tips as well now, but they look a bit cheap and nasty to me.

And post, and run off to the bedroom.

Just don't get to the stage where you match the tip up to the tank colour :laugh:

I know what you mean about the steel tips in winter, bloody freezing ;)

I've decided to run my juices down a bit now, no more juice orders til after my hols.

Back under the bed mate :laugh:
 

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You love that rayon mate don`t you, posted from under the bed.:D

It honestly is amazing mate. Don't think I'll be using cotton again for a while now. Juices taste so much sweeter and bags more flavour. No dry hits ever, even at 15 watts.
 

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Just don't get to the stage where you match the tip up to the tank colour :laugh:

I know what you mean about the steel tips in winter, bloody freezing ;)

I've decided to run my juices down a bit now, no more juice orders til after my hols.

Back under the bed mate :laugh:

Thats why i have bought them ian to match up :laugh: Yeah i over do it on the juice stocks sometimes, although now i am getting to the point where i have just got my favorites, and stick with them.

Are you off in august Ian ? Holy crap trish is back, see you tomorrow.
 

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Thats why i have bought them ian to match up :laugh: Yeah i over do it on the juice stocks sometimes, although now i am getting to the point where i have just got my favorites, and stick with them.

Are you off in august Ian ? Holy crap trish is back, see you tomorrow.

Matching hat and coat :laugh:

I'm off at the end of July mate, so still a month to go.

I've been mixing some of the less desirable juices with some of the better ones. Finally finished off the TH Trip 20 by adding a bit at a time to some Zeus juice in the Vmod. I've only got about 7 or 8 juices left to use up now til I'm just down to the good stuff :D
 

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Matching hat and coat :laugh:

I'm off at the end of July mate, so still a month to go.

I've been mixing some of the less desirable juices with some of the better ones. Finally finished off the TH Trip 20 by adding a bit at a time to some Zeus juice in the Vmod. I've only got about 7 or 8 juices left to use up now til I'm just down to the good stuff :D

I know what you mean about the juices Ian, and have stopped buying them on a whim. I reckon i will just stick with chefs TBH and on the occasion i can get some GVC, will use them. Oh and the odd one or two from LT too, and steamgunk, and vapology as well :laugh:

And of course Not to forget Trouble 1000, who in his own right is a master mixer of fine Quality liquids.:D
 
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Yes trish, Thats the way i read it on the calculator. Ian will be on shortly, so i would just double check first. :)
OK, thanks Terry - just wanted to check it would be the same for ready made and VG with concentrate.

Thanks Tel - both work! :)
I can't ever get those links to FT to work - all I get is a blank page with the address: Shareasale.com

Sorry about that Trisha, I logged out before your question popped up.
No problem :)

Terry is right about the calculations. But to be honest, I'd just stick with mixing your 2 different strength juices to make up the one you want. One you get into mixing nicotine solution, you need to take a few precautions - well ventilated room and gloves. 72 mg nic juice isn't highly toxic, but it's best to air on the side of caution. Plus once you start adding nicotine and VG to pre-mixed juices, you're diluting the flavour too. Stick with the easy option is my advice. Places like Nicoticket, maximise the flavouring for each strength of juice they make, once you start altering that, things can start tasting off.
OK. I only wanted to add the drops of nicotine to the ready made CB and GCD (the nicotine states it's in VG) - I understand it'll slightly dilute the flavour, but it seemed a good way to avoid more PG if I can.

I'd treat the nicotine as I do the lead I use in my work: I use a 24% lead napthanate drier that I mix with medium every day, also black oil, plus lead based whites, cobalt, cadmium, chromium plus a few other heavy metal based pigments. They're the traditional painting materials used for centuries and I like to keep things authentic as much as possible. I keep my hands clean and the room ventilated when pouring or mixing these substances, and wash everything carefully with painters soap afterward.

Still, if you think I'd be better by adding the PG/VG ones from Spiritus to the VG max ones from Nicoticket, I'll try it that way first.

Another reason I wanted to try the CV's VG liquid though is because I get far less problems using theirs than I do the other supplier I've used a lot of, and seeing I have quite a number of concentrates now, thought I'd try making a few with their VG instead of the other one. Only thing is, the other one supplies it already to use with 0.6mg nicotine, and with the CV one, I'll need to add the nicotine.

I'm keen to keep to CV's VG if I can because something Clark at Nicoticket mentioned set me thinking about something that's crossed my mind before: are all VG's (and PG's) made equally? No. although I'm sure most of the suppliers we use make stuff with top quality, there's bound to be variations such as those we find with pharmaceutical drugs where some are better than others: generic versions for instance.

To give you an example :
When I mix Berry Blast, I mix it at 19mg nic strength and use a slightly higher VG percentage. But when I mix Terry's Jungle Juice, I mix it at 20mg nic strength and use a slightly higher PG percentage. Both juices "feel" like their 18mg strength and the PG/VG ratio is maximised for taste on each one. Sounds complicated I know :laugh:

I'll see what flavour percentage they recommend and double it then Terry, I like my juices strong :laugh: No extra charge for flavour shots at Ian's lab ;)

I used to sell fishnet stockings, seriously :D
Right - more to it than meets the eye! But, I just wanted to try some of those concentrates. I'm not bothered if I get the nicotine part lower than intended, and can always add a little more concentrate if it needs it. So, would I be OK to try using the CV VG and nicotine to try out some of the concentrates?

Fishnet stockings! Wow! :ohmy: :laugh:

I think under my bed is clear, ( i bet trish was one of your best customers ) :facepalm:
Tell you what Terry, Trishas legs never needed such OTT enhancements as fishnet stockings! They did just fine without! :p :laugh:
 

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I know what you mean about the juices Ian, and have stopped buying them on a whim. I reckon i will just stick with chefs TBH and on the occasion i can get some GVC, will use them. Oh and the odd one or two from LT too, and steamgunk, and vapology as well :laugh:

You forgot to add my name to the list :laugh:

Must admit though, I'll do the same in the future. Steamgunk and Vapology have never let me down so far, add Nicoticket and Zeus juice to the list and that's all I need, as well as my DIY stuff :D
 

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OK, thanks Terry - just wanted to check it would be the same for ready made and VG with concentrate.

I can't ever get those links to FT to work - all I get is a blank page with the address: Shareasale.com

No problem :)

OK. I only wanted to add the drops of nicotine to the ready made CB and GCD (the nicotine states it's in VG) - I understand it'll slightly dilute the flavour, but it seemed a good way to avoid more PG if I can.

I'd treat the nicotine as I do the lead I use in my work: I use a 24% lead napthanate drier that I mix with medium every day, also black oil, plus lead based whites, cobalt, cadmium, chromium plus a few other heavy metal based pigments. They're the traditional painting materials used for centuries and I like to keep things authentic as much as possible. I keep my hands clean and the room ventilated when pouring or mixing these substances, and wash everything carefully with painters soap afterward.

Still, if you think I'd be better by adding the PG/VG ones from Spiritus to the VG max ones from Nicoticket, I'll try it that way first.

Another reason I wanted to try the CV's VG liquid though is because I get far less problems using theirs than I do the other supplier I've used a lot of, and seeing I have quite a number of concentrates now, thought I'd try making a few with their VG instead of the other one. Only thing is, the other one supplies it already to use with 0.6mg nicotine, and with the CV one, I'll need to add the nicotine.

I'm keen to keep to CV's VG if I can because something Clark at Nicoticket mentioned set me thinking about something that's crossed my mind before: are all VG's (and PG's) made equally? No. although I'm sure most of the suppliers we use make stuff with top quality, there's bound to be variations such as those we find with pharmaceutical drugs where some are better than others: generic versions for instance.

Right - more to it than meets the eye! But, I just wanted to try some of those concentrates. I'm not bothered if I get the nicotine part lower than intended, and can always add a little more concentrate if it needs it. So, would I be OK to try using the CV VG and nicotine to try out some of the concentrates?

Fishnet stockings! Wow! :ohmy: :laugh:

Tell you what Terry, Trishas legs never needed such OTT enhancements as fishnet stockings! They did just fine without! :p :laugh:

OMG now you have embarrassed me trish :blush: Have you got any photo`s ? :facepalm:
 
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You forgot to add my name to the list :laugh:

Must admit though, I'll do the same in the future. Steamgunk and Vapology have never let me down so far, add Nicoticket and Zeus juice to the list and that's all I need, as well as my DIY stuff :D

I know mate soz, i will edit. TBH i am vaping some jungle juice right now, bloody lovely mate.:D
 

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I know what you mean about the juices Ian, and have stopped buying them on a whim. I reckon i will just stick with chefs TBH and on the occasion i can get some GVC, will use them. Oh and the odd one or two from LT too, and steamgunk, and vapology as well :laugh:

And of course Not to forget Trouble 1000, who in his own right is a master mixer of fine Quality liquids.:D

Thats better Ian :toast:
 

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OK, thanks Terry - just wanted to check it would be the same for ready made and VG with concentrate.

I can't ever get those links to FT to work - all I get is a blank page with the address: Shareasale.com

No problem :)

OK. I only wanted to add the drops of nicotine to the ready made CB and GCD (the nicotine states it's in VG) - I understand it'll slightly dilute the flavour, but it seemed a good way to avoid more PG if I can.

I'd treat the nicotine as I do the lead I use in my work: I use a 24% lead napthanate drier that I mix with medium every day, also black oil, plus lead based whites, cobalt, cadmium, chromium plus a few other heavy metal based pigments. They're the traditional painting materials used for centuries and I like to keep things authentic as much as possible. I keep my hands clean and the room ventilated when pouring or mixing these substances, and wash everything carefully with painters soap afterward.

Still, if you think I'd be better by adding the PG/VG ones from Spiritus to the VG max ones from Nicoticket, I'll try it that way first.

Another reason I wanted to try the CV's VG liquid though is because I get far less problems using theirs than I do the other supplier I've used a lot of, and seeing I have quite a number of concentrates now, thought I'd try making a few with their VG instead of the other one. Only thing is, the other one supplies it already to use with 0.6mg nicotine, and with the CV one, I'll need to add the nicotine.

I'm keen to keep to CV's VG if I can because something Clark at Nicoticket mentioned set me thinking about something that's crossed my mind before: are all VG's (and PG's) made equally? No. although I'm sure most of the suppliers we use make stuff with top quality, there's bound to be variations such as those we find with pharmaceutical drugs where some are better than others: generic versions for instance.

Right - more to it than meets the eye! But, I just wanted to try some of those concentrates. I'm not bothered if I get the nicotine part lower than intended, and can always add a little more concentrate if it needs it. So, would I be OK to try using the CV VG and nicotine to try out some of the concentrates?

Fishnet stockings! Wow! :ohmy: :laugh:

Tell you what Terry, Trishas legs never needed such OTT enhancements as fishnet stockings! They did just fine without! :p :laugh:

I still use the fishnets for straining the juices, but don't tell Terry :laugh:

Sounds like you're pretty clued up with all those paints Trisha. Wasn't trying to put you off the mixing honest, just let you know what could happen, sorry if it came across the wrong way :laugh:

Just start off with small sample sizes to start with 1 or 2ml at a time, once you're happy with the results then step up to larger mixes. I have notices that PG, nic solution and VG can be different from some sources and flavourings do vary wildly.

When I mix a new juice, I do a 2ml sampler first. Let it steep for a few days, taste it, then add any extras. Leave a few days and taste again. Plenty of notes all the way along. Probably best to use syringes for mixing, rather than drops. A drop of VG will be a totally different size, to a drop of nicotine solution. So, I'd recommend using a small graduated syringe, even for small batches. I have syringes from 2ml up to 20ml for different ingredients. Most sites say 20 drops is equal to 1ml, so you can use that as a baseline for calculations :D
 
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