Anyone notice mood/mental health changes since switching?

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I hear a lot of benefits about not smelling bad, better teeth etc but frankly I never cared about any of that. I got hooked on smoking after going through a stressful period and since then I'd say my mood has gradually gone downhill then stable but I'm generally much less happy than before I started smoking.

I became reliant on cigarettes as the main thing to keep me going and naturally it was a big issue in my life, I knew it's a health hazard but it gave me some relief, so it was a pretty weird cycle.

With e-cigs I'm only on day 2 but finding so far that it might be the ticket, I have barely and desire for normal cigs until an event that triggers my usual need to light-up. But that seems to be diminishing.

So can I expect any improvements in mood if I 'detox' from the chemicals in analogs or is most of it just physical stuff like better breathing etc?
 

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yes all of the above..

almost 60 days in myself and the biggest change is my energy level. I have such a boost in alertness..

breathing much better.. especially after waking up in the morning.. I used to always cough up phlegm and have shortness of breath when I first smoked my first analog of the day.. this is no longer a factor.

and on top of having a bigger appetite.. my taste buds have increased and my sense of smell since I can know smell an analog from a mile away (which is so gross now!)

the effects may not hit you within the first few days.. give it a few weeks and you should be able to notice a substantial change.

good luck and keep vaping!
 

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Read more on ecf and there are alternatives to smoking that can help with that.

I don't want alternatives I want to go back to my pre-smoking state and wondering if I will experience a relief of my mood symptoms. Nothing else really changed in my life other than becoming a PAD+ smoker, I'm hoping I didn't do too much damage.
 

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yes all of the above..

almost 60 days in myself and the biggest change is my energy level. I have such a boost in alertness..

breathing much better.. especially after waking up in the morning.. I used to always cough up phlegm and have shortness of breath when I first smoked my first analog of the day.. this is no longer a factor.

and on top of having a bigger appetite.. my taste buds have increased and my sense of smell since I can know smell an analog from a mile away (which is so gross now!)

the effects may not hit you within the first few days.. give it a few weeks and you should be able to notice a substantial change.

good luck and keep vaping!

Cool beans ;)
 

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I've never been the same once I quit smoking. I started quitting at twenty one. 7 times later I'm 60. All in between? So happens I had a lot of mental health problems. Did it happen because I quit a 6 year smoking habit? They were formative years but still, maybe I've never been the same since I started smoking! But that fact was done and the decades following was finally addressed with antidepressants....which I quit over and over again plus a recreational use of alcohol turned into alcoholism which I couldn't quit effectively until finally over three years ago. My point is, and it only speculation, I am stopping the antidepressants again very slowly to see if now that I snus and snuff and vape WTA e juice if I even need them. They give me brain fog. I'm weary of it. At 60 the brain fog starts up anyway ( I think I read somewhere our brain starts dehydrating....gross) What IF I had never smoked to begin with. Would I have been self medicating with other things? And finally start taking recommended prescriptions? Dunno
 

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We are all different. I was off analogs for 9 months, but I was brain dead. Something was missing. Maybe some receptors learn to use something in analogs after 35 years,... I don't know. I tried some Camel snus. That was a waste.
Bought a pack of analogs, lit one and my brain started firing again, immediately! Suddenly I was getting things done that I had been ignoring for months.
I'm back off of them now but I keep swedish snus around. It helps.
Let us know what your experience is.
I wish you the best.
 

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Tobacco, and by association cigarette smoke, has alkaloids in it that act as monoamine oxidase inhibitors (MAOIs). Your system may well be missing one or more of them, and similar to what happens with the drug form of MAOIs you may be going through withdrawals. Some of us eventually get over the need for them and some of us don't. For those that continue to need them there are snus and WTA liquids. Info on both can be found on the forums.
 

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yea ecigs dont have the MAOI's that combustible's have,the tobacco company's actually add a few to there tobacco to help keep people addicted any cravings you have should be tolerable tho and should totally pass in a few months if you stick with it. many people find that sneaking in a smoke here or there helps with it until they can finally get over it.
 

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When I started I was chain vaping 16mg. I have dips in my mood and like to worry about things I can't do anything about, and at the time was getting ...... off at work for no reason, thinking about the past and future in pessimistic ways. More than I want to share about myself, but anyway.. when I started vaping, and simultaneously quit analogs, my mood changed and I actually sat at work all day with a smile on my face and a happy go lucky attitude. I attribute it to finding a new hobby and excessive nicotine. Unfortunately, I have a tolerance now and it doesn't quite work that way, but I think I'm still doing much better. That long time cig habit was a heavy weight on my shoulders and had to be making all of us sick without realizing it.

I also made a mini-me, that helps big time. :)

I hear a lot of benefits about not smelling bad, better teeth etc but frankly I never cared about any of that. I got hooked on smoking after going through a stressful period and since then I'd say my mood has gradually gone downhill then stable but I'm generally much less happy than before I started smoking.

I became reliant on cigarettes as the main thing to keep me going and naturally it was a big issue in my life, I knew it's a health hazard but it gave me some relief, so it was a pretty weird cycle.

With e-cigs I'm only on day 2 but finding so far that it might be the ticket, I have barely and desire for normal cigs until an event that triggers my usual need to light-up. But that seems to be diminishing.

So can I expect any improvements in mood if I 'detox' from the chemicals in analogs or is most of it just physical stuff like better breathing etc?
 
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some sad reports here :(

Not really. It's not really any different than all the other times I tried to quit smoking, and all I did was try to quit smoking!.... It was consuming. When I started vaping it came with a hobby... or maybe an obsession.;) I didn't have cravings for analogs. I just didn't get that extra "something" with the ecig, and it was awhile before it became an issue. Some life stressors and such. We are all different and so is our brain chemistry.
There are a couple of long in depth threads somewhere on the alkaloids and MAOIs. I'll see if I can find you the link. But really, it may not be an issue for you. I wouldn't worry about it until it is. I think the best thing is to try to keep vaping as simple as smoking was, and get on with your life!
 

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One side effect of getting off cigarettes (or removing any number of other neurotoxic chemicals like Fluoride, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Brominated vegetable oils or flours, etc from your diet) is that your brain starts to actually function the way it is designed to work.

This my be good or bad, depending on how dependent on social acceptance and "fitting in" you are. If you are the kind of person who NEEDS to be constantly validated by the people around you, and who needs to fit in, then having a fiully-functioning brain is going to cause a LOT of problems.

You're going to start noticing that the media contradict their own statements from day to day (and sometimes from minute to minute) and they act like this is OK and perfectly normal.

You're going to start noticing that politicians want to pass laws to make things illegal for YOU to do, and then they put specific exemptions in those laws so that THEY can still do those things.

You are going to see people in positions of authority--government, academia, research, law enforcement--stand up in from of cameras or crowds and just flat-out make .... up and lie to the public--like they thing we are brain-damaged 2-yer-olds. And it's not going to be little lies like about the latest boondoggle bill to fund bridges in their district, or why the military REALLY needs to have secret torture bases in Turkey. It's going to be HUGE, GLARING SCREAMING lies, that have the possibility to effect every man, woman and child in the country, and they are going to be lies that anyone with a memory span longer than a goldfish, and the research skills of a 5th grader could figure out...

So, most likely, the PRIMARY symptom and "negative side effect" of a functioning brain is that you are going to not just FEEL more awake and aware, but you are actually going to BE more awake and aware. And because of this, you will most likely start to get REALLY angry with politicians, and you are going to realize that pretty much EVERYONE in your life who is in a position of power or authority is literally lying to you with every breath. You are going to feel outrage that the people in the world who are in positions of power and authority treat the public like they are idiots. And you are going to feel isolated, that most of the people in your life are still walking round like zombies, unable and unwilling to see these things.


But if you don't need other people (most of whom are still operating their brains at half-speed to due to the neurotoxins in their diets) to agree with you to feel good about yourself, then you will find that having fully-functioning brain is good thing.

You will become more politically aware and active. You will engage people in public more, trying to get them to wake up and shake off the chains of brain-damaging chemicals/

You will start to understand what the schools are REALLY designed to do, and will take more personal, active role in your children's education.

You will become more aware of the rest of your lifestyle choices-food, clothing, housing, travel--and how they effect your health and the health of those around you.

And you are going to WAKE UP and see the world in all it's beauty, wonder, and glory, and think to yourself, "Why the heck can't everyone else see this, and why do they waste so much time plugged into the TV, video games, and the internet"?
 
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Eh. I'm pretty depressed. I'm on anti-depressants but they don't always work.
Normally in the past when I have went cold turkey I went psycho borderline suicidal.
I'm still surprised how easy it was for me to switch from smoking to vaping with no bad mental side effects.
I did have a bad day when my mother thought she lost her job and went and bought a pack but other than that it's been a breeze!

Thinking of lowering my nic down from 12 mg
but we'll see how that goes lol
 

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I've never been the same once I quit smoking. I started quitting at twenty one. 7 times later I'm 60. All in between? So happens I had a lot of mental health problems. Did it happen because I quit a 6 year smoking habit? They were formative years but still, maybe I've never been the same since I started smoking! But that fact was done and the decades following was finally addressed with antidepressants....which I quit over and over again plus a recreational use of alcohol turned into alcoholism which I couldn't quit effectively until finally over three years ago. My point is, and it only speculation, I am stopping the antidepressants again very slowly to see if now that I snus and snuff and vape WTA e juice if I even need them. They give me brain fog. I'm weary of it. At 60 the brain fog starts up anyway ( I think I read somewhere our brain starts dehydrating....gross) What IF I had never smoked to begin with. Would I have been self medicating with other things? And finally start taking recommended prescriptions? Dunno

Did taking anti-depressants help you get back to 'normal' you think?
 

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I hear a lot of benefits about not smelling bad, better teeth etc but frankly I never cared about any of that. I got hooked on smoking after going through a stressful period and since then I'd say my mood has gradually gone downhill then stable but I'm generally much less happy than before I started smoking.

I became reliant on cigarettes as the main thing to keep me going and naturally it was a big issue in my life, I knew it's a health hazard but it gave me some relief, so it was a pretty weird cycle.

With e-cigs I'm only on day 2 but finding so far that it might be the ticket, I have barely and desire for normal cigs until an event that triggers my usual need to light-up. But that seems to be diminishing.

So can I expect any improvements in mood if I 'detox' from the chemicals in analogs or is most of it just physical stuff like better breathing etc?

My energy level and mood began improving early. There's much to be said for not inhaling tons of dangerous chemicals. :)
 

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My energy level and mood began improving early. There's much to be said for not inhaling tons of dangerous chemicals. :)

I'm having a weird relationship with ciggs atm, I still have to have at least one because in my mind it makes me feel 'normal', but I feel like I'm about to get knocked off my feet when I get half way
 

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I'm having a weird relationship with ciggs atm, I still have to have at least one because in my mind it makes me feel 'normal', but I feel like I'm about to get knocked off my feet when I get half way

I wouldn't worry too much about it. If the number of cigs is going down, that's good. In fact, great. Not everybody stops cigs immediately. Definitely not me. The trend has been steady away from cigs but I still break down once in a while. But the time between keeps getting longer.

Had two yesterday. Not sure why. They were awful. Maybe I'm at a point I need reminding just how bad they taste to me now?

Dunno. Not going to get wound up about it long as the gap between "breaking down" keeps growing...
 

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Went from a PAD to 1/2 PAD without vapeing. Went to 3 a day with vaping and those ones I smoke. I hate them. They stink and they taste horrible. Keep telling myself I will quit them once and for all... tomorrow.

Figure I have made improvements so screw it. Plan to exerciser more because I know the other things I got from smoking will not be replaced with vapeing. Got to find that high somewhere else and I used to get it with running. Plan on starting that again...tomorrow :)
 
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