Looks like he pulled the plug on the VV's. The link is gone. I think everyone knew it was coming.
Anyone notice the VV's are gone?
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Maybe I'll put mine on eBay. Sell it for $500 or so like they do with the Billet Box.
The stacked battery chip format was way long in the tooth. Rob said he didn't want to continue offering VV devices with chips that can go bad, and is beyond his control.
He's replacing it with a Grand that will fit an 18650 + Kick. You'll be able to operate it without the kick as a mechanical as well by putting in some sort of spacer.
That's what I remember. It was stated somewhere waaaayyyyy back in the last woodvil thread.
Now, Im not a VV/Regulated vaper anymore, but this is a MUCH better solution IMO. I mean, Im sure plenty of vapers like me who gave up on regulated vaping a long time ago, still keep a kick in the vape gear, just in case.
Yep, that's what I remember too. There was another hint as well. He was always adding grands, mini's,lp's and recently SL's but for weeks there was only the copper vein in the VV's and when the last of those sold, off comes the link.
That and the 18mm drop-in regulator format isn't going anywhere anytime soon. If Evolv doesn't eventually upgrade to a Kick 3, I'm sure some other manufacturer will come out with a drop in module that does more than 15 Watts. This makes the upcoming Grand/Kick model user upgradeable. Also means if the chip breaks, it's not Rob's fault or problem.
Not surprised at this I was cleaning out links a couple weeks ago and clicked on the buzz pro link to see if they were still around.
They are but I wondered if they ever sell any these days. Especially with that wonky connector that leaves a 1/4 inch gap with every RBA
They are but I wondered if they ever sell any these days. Especially with that wonky connector that leaves a 1/4 inch gap with every RBA
Not surprised at this I was cleaning out links a couple weeks ago and clicked on the buzz pro link to see if they were still around.
They are but I wondered if they ever sell any these days. Especially with that wonky connector that leaves a 1/4 inch gap with every RBA
You're forgetting everyone does not use rbas. There are still tons of people who use cartos.
I've been very happy with my Kick 2 and look forward to a drop in Grand. I vape 1.1 ohm on my Woodvil and 2 ohm in my Kicked Grand at 10 Watts. THe math doesn't up but the vapes are very similar using the same juice.That and the 18mm drop-in regulator format isn't going anywhere anytime soon. If Evolv doesn't eventually upgrade to a Kick 3, I'm sure some other manufacturer will come out with a drop in module that does more than 15 Watts. This makes the upcoming Grand/Kick model user upgradeable. Also means if the chip breaks, it's not Rob's fault or problem.
Better solution? No.
The point of a VV mod - to me - is the flexibility to change the voltage to suit the device on the Reo. And that's easy to do with a VV Grand in less than a second. It's a royal PITA to do with a kick, which requires removal - and a screwdriver - and reinsertion , and then testing to see if you got the result you want. Not what you wanted? "requires removal - and a screwdriver - and..." all over again.
Tell me how that's an improvement over the simple thumbwheel in a VV Grand.
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It's an improvement because, if the current VV grand fails, it's back to the spa for a rehab. With the new design, you can keep a spare kick on hand, and if it fails, just replace it with the backup. Or vape it in full mech mode with the spacer.
Old model=1 week without, new design=5 minutes without.
Just sayin'
Old model=1 week without, new design=5 minutes without.
Just sayin'
Better solution? No.
The point of a VV mod - to me - is the flexibility to change the voltage to suit the device on the Reo. And that's easy to do with a VV Grand in less than a second. It's a royal PITA to do with a kick, which requires removal - and a screwdriver - and reinsertion , and then testing to see if you got the result you want. Not what you wanted? "requires removal - and a screwdriver - and..." all over again.
Tell me how that's an improvement over the simple thumbwheel in a VV Grand.
Keep in mind we have yet to see what Rob comes up with. Not worth getting your panties in a bunch over, it's not like he has a reputation for disappointment or not improving on anything now does he?
Better solution? No.
The point of a VV mod - to me - is the flexibility to change the voltage to suit the device on the Reo. And that's easy to do with a VV Grand in less than a second. It's a royal PITA to do with a kick, which requires removal - and a screwdriver - and reinsertion , and then testing to see if you got the result you want. Not what you wanted? "requires removal - and a screwdriver - and..." all over again.
Tell me how that's an improvement over the simple thumbwheel in a VV Grand.
Its an improvement because:
-You know what voltage you're vaping at
-You can change to a specific voltage easier
-You no longer need to deal with the regimen of keeping your stacking batteries numbered and in sets together
-And most of all, the mod itself is mechanical, YOU add the regulated pieces. Odds are, IF anything is going to break, its not going to be the mod. Which means you can still vape while you replace some parts. If you break something in the mod, you might need to send it in for reps.
Is it the IDEAL VV solution? No. I don't think there IS a good VV/VW solution on the market, its part of the reason why I stopped using them. If I had to name an ideal device with regulation, it'd be either the Provari or the Hana Modz V3(or a couple other extremely well built DNA30 based devices)
But, and of course, just my opinion, for the Reo mod, I think this makes the whole setup a more reliable and more user friendly device. You no longer need to have a specific device that is only VV, like now. Theoretically, one could purchase one device that will allow you to run a kick and vape regulated, or user the spacer/adaptor in place of the kick, and run a subohm mech setup.
The Omni-Reo.
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