Anything to reduce power of 6v option?

[metapuff]

My 6v supert vapes wonderfully with locally bought cr2s
but is way too hot/strong with the rechargeable type
kills the flavor and almost immediately achieves a burnt
flavor with smoke that burns nostrils.
Is there a way to lessen the strength of these batteries?

mod gets really hot real fast and is killing my attys
can only hold button down for half second to keep
from getting too hot

what are the gold washers for? Will they reduce the
power of the batteries?

This is with 901 and 510 attys

 

[metapuff]

It's starting to dawn on me that the 510 and 901's were
not meant to be used at 6v. Is anyone else using a superT
doing so?

Only way for that to work without breaking the bank
is to get a big supply of cr2's from china (single use)

maybe a future model with an adjustable power option.

I can't use my 6v w/801 adapter because i lost it

it would have to be that one right?

 

[forcedfuel50]

I'm sorry to hear you lost your 801. Hopefully it will turn up soon! Both 510 and 901 are not as durable at 6v as the 801 in my opinion. If you go over to the Super six cartomizer thread , http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/super-t-manufacturing/51201-super-six-cartomizer-2.html , i believe zofryer said he is able to get about a month out of a 901 at 6v and he also has a suggestion for another 901 that seems pretty durable.

David

 

[VaporX]

are your rechargeable 3V or 3.7?

if they are 3v let them sit a bit just after charging may help.

on a side note im pretty sure 510 are 3V stock even lower than 901/801 so may get burnt faster

 

[breakfastchef]

My 6v supert vapes wonderfully with locally bought cr2s but is way too hot/strong with the rechargeable type
kills the flavor and almost immediately achieves a burnt
flavor with smoke that burns nostrils.

Burnt taste with the burning nostrils is usually a sign that your atomizer is running too dry. Keep it moist. I find that penstyle atomizers work well at 6 volts, particularly the BE112.

Even if the device could run at 5 volts, you can still pop an atty in a short period of time.

Mod gets really hot real fast and is killing my attys can only hold button down for half second to keep
from getting too hot.

If this is your first high-voltage device, you are still in your 'learning curve'. Regardless of atomizer, they will get hot at this voltage. If you hit the device more than 4-5 times in a row, it will get quite hot and should be allowed to cool before using it again. Different atomizers may get hotter quicker.

what are the gold washers for?

The washers are used to adjust the button throw; how far you need to push it before the atomizer fires. Add washers under the screw on the button to move the screw head closer to the battery which will shorten the throw. Remove a screw will increase the throw.

 

[KonaNeil]

EastMall just came out with 6v specific atomizers. They have them for 901 and 510 as well as for 801. They even warn not to use them at 3.7 or 7.4.

I hope I'm not out of line in mentioning another vendor since the product serves SS owners and Super T doesn't sell attys.

 

[breakfastchef]

Only way for that to work without breaking the bank is to get a big supply of cr2's from china (single use)

Single use batteries are going to get pretty expensive.

One thought, on a freshly charged pair of CR2's, try several depresses of the button during a draw. This will allow the vapor to cool a bit during the draw (i.e. press and depress the button 2-4 times during a six second draw), and may help some with the heating up of the atomizer. Do this for maybe 15-30 minutes until the battery voltage drops a little. Then you could probably operate the Super-T normally.

 

[breakfastchef]

Real good point, Kona. Matching the atomizer resistance to the voltage is a good solution. Forum member nerf has a thread here on ECF where he is offering custom resistance atomizers from China. Maybe a 4 or 4.3 ohm atomizer would work better for the OP.

EastMall just came out with 6v specific atomizers. They have them for 901 and 510 as well as for 801. They even warn not to use them at 3.7 or 7.4.

I hope I'm not out of line in mentioning another vendor since the product serves SS owners and Super T doesn't sell attys.

 

[metapuff]

Wow. Thanks for that tip. works great!

 

[metapuff]

EastMall just came out with 6v specific atomizers. They have them for 901 and 510 as well as for 801. They even warn not to use them at 3.7 or 7.4.

I hope I'm not out of line in mentioning another vendor since the product serves SS owners and Super T doesn't sell attys.

I'll give that a try too. thanks!

 

[YoMike]

If you vape @ 6V with an atty made for 6V
isn't it going to be the same as
vaping @ 3.7V with an atty made for 3.7V?
Just seems to me that the heating element can only get so hot no matter which one of the above you use.

 

[forcedfuel50]

If you vape @ 6V with an atty made for 6V
isn't it going to be the same as
vaping @ 3.7V with an atty made for 3.7V?
Just seems to me that the heating element can only get so hot no matter which one of the above you use.

Yes, there is some truth to that, it was being discussed a bit over on the other forums. Vaping on a 6 volt atty with 6 volt power supply will likely not be the same as vaping at 6 volts on a 3.7 volt atty.

 

[grimmer255]

well it depends... I was thinking about this the other day as well. The thing is if you up the voltage that means your upping the amps as well. So my conclusion is more heat. Even if its a 6v attie its still more heat. your still running 6v on that wire. You may not get as much vapor as if your vaping on a thinner wire with 6v, because the current is more controlled with a thicker wire but it will still pack more of a punch than 3.7v vaping and 5v vaping. Its like comparing 90 degrees to 120 degrees.... but with a thick wire your at 110 - 115 degrees at least thats what I think...

 

[forcedfuel50]

well it depends... I was thinking about this the other day as well. The thing is if you up the voltage that means your upping the amps as well. So my conclusion is more heat. Even if its a 6v attie its still more heat. your still running 6v on that wire. You may not get as much vapor as if you would doing on a thinner wire because the current is more controlled but it will still pack more of a punch than 3.7v vaping and 5v vaping.

But consider that if it is a thicker wire, it may carry more amps with less resistance and thus won't get as hot as a thinner wire

 

[grimmer255]

But consider that if it is a thicker wire, it may carry more amps with less resistance and thus won't get as hot as a thinner wire

I agree with you but how atties are set up there will be resistance. but your right though there be less heat but it will be more heat than 3.7v. i shouldn't say more than 5v. but as much. But i really cant give an opinion because I need one to verify for myself lol.

 

[KonaNeil]

I don't know much about batteries but maybe the end result should be expressed in wattage like we do in audio where a lower impedance load (in this case the atomizer rather than a speaker) pulls more wattage from the power source. Also, I would suspect that a higher impedance atomizer will allow a battery to last longer between charges.

 

[Richie G]

well it depends... I was thinking about this the other day as well. The thing is if you up the voltage that means your upping the amps as well. So my conclusion is more heat. Even if its a 6v attie its still more heat. your still running 6v on that wire. You may not get as much vapor as if your vaping on a thinner wire with 6v, because the current is more controlled with a thicker wire but it will still pack more of a punch than 3.7v vaping and 5v vaping. Its like comparing 90 degrees to 120 degrees.... but with a thick wire your at 110 - 115 degrees at least thats what I think...

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Not so, Grim Dog.

In fact, increasing the voltage in a ckt reduces the current (amps) drawn. The misconception here is that batteries contain amperage because they are rated in mah. Higher ratings of mahs speaks to how long a battery will last, that's all.

Current in a ckt, any ckt, is dictated by the resistance.

Kona:

...I don't know much about batteries but maybe the end result should be expressed in wattage...

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I believe you're right, Kona. Especially when we talk about different voltages and HV attys. Power (expressed in watts) is a common denominator and better describes what we're trying to achieve.

 

[doots]

HV attys are the way to go at 6v. east mall or PM Nerf for them..

 

[T to the IMMAY]

My 6v supert vapes wonderfully with locally bought cr2s
but is way too hot/strong with the rechargeable type
kills the flavor and almost immediately achieves a burnt
flavor with smoke that burns nostrils.
Is there a way to lessen the strength of these batteries?

well in my experience so far I have found that the re-chargeable 14500 batts start to loose a bit of kick after about a week or 2 of use. when I first got my Protege I was melting carts alot the first week. but after I used the batts for a week or 2 the power seemed to lessen just a little bit. I was able to use carts after that with no melting

so maybe it will be the same with the CR2s? I have yet to receive my SS so I cant say for sure that the CR2s will "calm down" a little after a week or 2 of use, but I would think they will have a little less power after some use.

my 2cents, T (#13 on the SS list)

 

[RamShot Rowdy]

If I understand Ohms law right, and didn't botch the math, here is what I found. This assumes wattage is equal to heat produced.

3.7 Volts with Standard Atomizer (3.2 Ohm) = 4.28 Watts
5 Volts with Standard Atomizer (3.2 Ohm) = 7.81 Watts
6 Volts with High Voltage Atomizer (4.2 Ohm) = 8.58 Watts
6 Volts with Standard Atomizer (3.2 Ohm) = 11.25 Watts

So if this has any truth to it, then 5V with a regular atomizer would be similar to 6V with a high voltage atomizer, and both are about 1/2 way between a standard e-cig and a 6V with standard atomizer.

I may very well not understand the concept here, welcome any feedback.

David