Are AW IMR high drain batteries a must for a Provari? Which batteries do you use?

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Chimney...you are too cool! Thanks for your help on both subjects!

Getting back to the "high drain IMR batteries." The mAH on these batteries max out at 2250. Other L-ion batteries go as high as 5000. I assume the 5000 will provide a much longer charge. What is the purpose of the IMR batteries in a Provari?

Can I just use the 5000 mAH l-ion batteries in a Provari which I currently use in my Vamo3?



Hey again OP! I'm the same as Ocelot. Considering how much I paid for it I use exactly what Provape recommends.
 

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Thanks! No problem! I'm sure you could use those & they would work but this is taken straight from Provapes website on why the recommend using them...

Batteries - We recommend only using the approved AW brand 18350 and 18490 with extension cap in the ProVari Mini. All of the batteries that we sell on our website have been tested to work with the ProVari Mini and these are the only cells you should use. Using the wrong battery will void your warranty and could damage the unit. Never use magnets on top of your batteries as this is very dangerous and will void all warranties.

There is a big difference between all the different batteries on the market and a lot of testing has been done on these various batteries. The reason we recommend using AW high drain cells is because these cells can output more current providing the ProVari with the power it needs to operate properly. There are a number of batteries that will cause issues including the Trustfire, Ultrafire and other brands. These batteries cannot handle higher current output and the battery will turn off while in use or cause a low battery alert much sooner than it should because the batteries have a high internal resistance. Please make sure you get the proper AW batteries to use in the ProVari Mini to avoid problems.

Hope this helps my friend!
 

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Chimney...you are too cool! Thanks for your help on both subjects!

Getting back to the "high drain IMR batteries." The mAH on these batteries max out at 2250. Other L-ion batteries go as high as 5000. I assume the 5000 will provide a much longer charge. What is the purpose of the IMR batteries in a Provari?

Can I just use the 5000 mAH l-ion batteries in a Provari which I currently use in my Vamo3?

Going by the high mAh ratings that you said your batteries have (5000?), those are likely "protected Li-ION" batteries. These are volatile chemistry batteries, meaning when they become stressed under load they can get hot, therefore they require protective circuits built into the battery. These batteries, if they were unprotected, could explode if hard-shorted or stressed beyond their tolerance.

IMR, or high drain, or safe-chemistry Li-MN batteries are what Provape recommends for the Provari. Being safer chemistry means they are not as volatile as the Li-ION batteries, and do not require built-in protection. They will not explode if stressed, but may still over heat if stressed beyond their tolerance, and vent hot gasses in an event called thermal runaway. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-battery-failure-imr-18650-a.html#post3265928 IMR batteries generally have a lower mAh rating than protected batteries, but are capable of high drain bursts of energy required by boost circuits in regulated mods.

Mechanical mods have little or no protection against a hard-shorted battery, so the protected Li-ION batteries are often used with them. Using a Vape Safe Mod Fuse offers an additional layer of security against a hard-short battery. http://www.thevapesafe.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=19&Itemid=163

Regulated APVs like the Provari have boost circuits in the microprocessor which allow higher voltage to be produced. To be able to do this, it requires a high drain type of battery, which the Li-MN or high drain IMRs are. Also, the microprocessor has built-in protection against atomizer and battery shorts - it will either refuse to fire the atty and give an error message on the LED display, or shut itself down completely to protect the atty, the mod, or the user from harm.

Provape designed the Provari around the red AW IMR button top batteries, and recommends only those. Button top variety to prevent accidentally installing the battery in the wrong way which can cause a hard-short in itself. Attempting to use earth magnets on flat top batteries in the Provari is expressively discouraged and will void the warranty.
 
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They don't sell flatop batteries on the Provape site just the button top so when we got our provari I just ordered the AW button tops off the site, so I assume the recommended battery for the provari is button top and we use just the AW button tops but efest flatops in all my other PV's.
I find flatop batteries work better in other PV's and with the kick than the button tops.
 

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Their site states other batteries can be used, but the AW IMR batteries are what has been tested and approved by Provape for use in the ProVari. They are pretty safe batteries so I had more confidence in them rather than trying to save a couple of bucks and risking it. They are good for over 800 cycles so should last a long, long time. I use the AW IMR batteries in my other mods too.
 

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I haven't tried anything but the recommended batteries - they last a long time, was 15 months before I had to replace my first two and, with one in the Provari and the other charged to take, you have all the power you need for a long day on the go.

Why risk problems, damage and/or voiding your warranty just to save a couple of dollars?
 

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    The way I look at it, all the Provari (or any other mod) does is hold the battery that provides the power needed to vape. So which is more important, the Provari or the battery? When the PV boost the power it is a good idea to use a high drain battery like IMR's.

    Provape suggests the AW IMR battery because it is a "known", batteries from an unknown source ........... "well you never know".

    Personally I won't take the chance, so I stick with the known.
     

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    I have had contact with the folks at Provape about this very subject because of a problem with the circuit board in my Provari coming loose. They said to only use AW brand batts. because the Provari was built around these batts. I was using Efest brand batts. which they stated could be too long and could possibly cause the circuit board to be pushed up into the body causing it to become loose. I compared the two and sure enough, the AW's were slightly, and I mean slightly! shorter than the Efest batts. Is it enough to make a difference? I don't know. But I did switch as they recommended.
     
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