Are the usual measures provided by B&M Juice Bars enough?

[Recycled Roadkill]

I could drive from where I live, on surface streets and arrive at the Dallas Presbyterian Hospital in fifteen minutes or less and I'm not going to spell this out but, I'm questioning if the usual protection provided at B&M vape shops which is commonly a silicon jacket placed over a tester.

There's a heck of a lot of vape stores with juice bars in this area, and I for one will no longer be testing juices.

I'm neither fear mongering nor do I consider myself as paranoid. I'll just be much more careful in the future considering what's happening near me.

 

[Topwater Elvis]

In a spray bottle mix 1 part bleach with 10 parts water (1:10) carry it around and spray everything before you touch it, problem solved.

 

[wonner]

I look at it this way.

If just one person accidentally or intentionally exhales into that mouthpiece, the entire tank is contaminated and was just turned into an incubation chamber.

No thanks!

 

[Miata GT]

I usually bring 'taster' dripper with me when I go to shops looking for ejuice. I never use the taster devices because they are generally crap CE4s or the like.

 

[Snugglepooter]

I'm glad that someone has mentioned this. The CDC is not being honest about JUST HOW EASY this disease can be caught.

I am not advocating panic,but rather sensibility.

People are getting sick from being near an EVD patient, not JUST from contact.

Do your own research. The laboratory studies are published and available, I wish I had time to look them back up and post them.

Be careful, folks. Look up "level IV pathogen," guess what you will find on that short list... And look at the precautions they take in the laboratory environment.

 

[Lurch]

I can understand your concerns, especially given the fact that the disease has been identified in your immediate area. But, where do we draw the line?

I guess that is a question that many will be asking in the coming months.

In my previous life, I wrote plans for handling various emergency situations. One of them was preparation for Bird Flu. We had a huge stack of plans prepared, including maintaining continuity of government and services. While researching that situation, I pretty much determined that while you can take precautions, it is impossible to go totally "off the grid" and avoid contact with possible infection agents. Fortunately this disease is not as easily transmitted....

 

[Absintheur]

I have never tasted at a B&M juice bar for the reasons cited above. I have seen folks with cold sores, runny noses, and worse flavor testing on those things and I just don't want to try a juice that badly. I keep a small RDA reserved for tasting, just enough cotton wicking to hold enough juice for a couple hits and extra cotton to change it between flavors if needed, only takes a minute to pull the cotton, dry burn, and add new wick. Personally I can only try a few new flavors at a time before the taste buds get confused so 3-4 is normally my max.

 

[Bored2Tears]

Recycled, I feel for you. I used to live in the DFW area. Hope everyone there stays safe and takes the precautions that are prudent for the situation. I agree you can't live your life in panic or unnecessary paranoia. But willingly sharing a drip tip with folks now seems unwise.

 

[sketchness]

I always bring my own device to drip on. If they won't let me drip, I go elsewhere. The little plastic tanks taste terrible and even if they aren't contaminated witth h1n1\ebola\whatevers next, they are generally disgusting. Often loaded with tank crackers or have been in there for who knows how long.

 

[yzer]

Ebola-Chan has a pink Provari.

 

[Snugglepooter]

You should speak more respectfully of the dying.

This ain't the flu, Polly.

Stupid will get you dead with this disease, so carry on...

 

[wonner]

This thread is getting weird.

I thought we were talking about clearo condoms.

 

[93gc40]

I take my own tips with me, IF I go tasting at the shops. I generally just order/buy small bottles the first time and do at home tasting.

 

[Davey59]

I think you bring up some very reasonable concerns. We all have our own personal threshold for what we consider acceptable risk.

I have not been to juice tasting bar in about 6 weeks. I think the hit and mess method and wasting a few bucks on juice I don't like is probably prudent. Most places do not have any "known" active cases but that is always the way it is, till it isn't. It is also coming up and regular flu season.

 

[MamaRymes]

Do they clean the drip tip before putting the sleeve over it? Do you remove the sleeve or do they? I think, for now, if it was me, I would stick to old favorites and buying small bottles to try new flavors if you're not into rebuilding.

 

[Traijan]

The places I've been to do not clean the tips between users when they are using the condom method. Some places use drip tips made of plastic and than put them in some sort of solution though I'm not sure that is enough to protect the public health

I've seen some shops that ask you to bring your own drip tip if you're going to sample their tanks and I used to feel safe with that method until reading this topic, now I've been thinking about somebody that might just blow into the tank and contaminate the whole thing.

I think I'll just avoid any more sampling for the foreseeable future.

 

[yzer]

I suspect the only way to get Ebola e-juice is from the first vendor who has enough smarts to market a juice called Ebola. Like radiator pluid, it should be quite a hit.

There is an interesting connection between vaping and Ebola. ZMapp was the first post-exposure drug used on Ebola victims and it seems to have worked. That's why plasma from Dr. Kent Brantly is being used as serum for other victims. He is the only known human to have received a full dose of ZMapp. His blood carries the ZMapp antibodies.

Now standby all you proponents of vaping political correctness...

-Research for the drug ZMapp was funded by the Department of Defense (the gubbermint).

-Mapp Pharmaceuticals is based on the left coast, CA to make things worse.

-ZMapp is produced in leaves of genetically engineered tobacco plants. The company Mapp contracted for the tobacco leaf production is Kentucky BioProcessing which is owned by Reynolds American (big tobacco).

Kentucky BioProcessing, acquired by Reynolds American in January, conducts contract research and development for San Diego-based Mapp Biopharmaceutical. In 2007, Mapp, working under contract for the U.S. Department of Defense and other federal agencies, engaged KBP to develop a process to manufacture a compound designed to be a post-exposure treatment for Ebola virus. Tobacco readily picks up genes inserted into it. The Owensboro facility uses that ability to quickly and inexpensively produce large volumes of a compound within weeks.

Ebola virus hit with

 

[wonner]

After reading this thread, I am convinced that we really do need the FDA.

 

[wonkeypickle]

i have learned to just smell the juice. if it smells good, i'll grab a bottle. with my everyday setup running at 150+ watts, any juice out of a clearo is going to taste weaksauce.


then you have the shops that don't care whenever someone doesn't use a rubber mouthpiece. yikes.

 

[GinnyTx]

I do feel for y'all in Dallas too

anything with urine, saliva, feces, vomit and semen carries the virus.

I used to use those mouth condom thingys over their tester, I use my own drip tip now..and reasonably that's not safe either, if someone spit down into the tank, but I figured it be in the juice and heated to a level that would destroy it.

but yeah if it's not clean, and clean practices observed in the shop, I don't recommend you NOT put it in your mouth.