Are you getting your nicotine fix?

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TropicalBob

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Yes.

Not sure why the difference in "feel". Maybe it's the lack of carbon monoxide. I use "extra high" 24mg liquid, and each puff should have half the nicotine of a comparable puff from a real cig. I never get any nic hit, however. That's one reason why I use everything else I can throw at my addiction: real pipes, snus, hard snuff. E-smoking lacks taste, vapor volume and nic hit for me.

Note that the FDA -- I'm convinced it will become involved at some point -- limits nicotine to 4mg for all nicotine-replacement therapies (NRT). That's one reason patches, gum, lozenges, inhalers, all fail. The smoker is left in constant, relentless craving. Not enough nicotine.

Same with e-smoking for me. I puff for a half hour .. and it only makes me want a real cigarette.

I was fascinated by Ruyan's answer to a comment I made elsewhere in this forum about the new KissBox. It said they are "limited by government" or something like that. Huh? What government? What limitation? I read that to mean we will NOT get a nic hit now or in the future.
 

jimldk

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TropicalBob said:
Yes.

Not sure why the difference in "feel". Maybe it's the lack of carbon monoxide. I use "extra high" 24mg liquid, and each puff should have half the nicotine of a comparable puff from a real cig. I never get any nic hit, however. That's one reason why I use everything else I can throw at my addiction: real pipes, snus, hard snuff. E-smoking lacks taste, vapor volume and nic hit for me.

Note that the FDA -- I'm convinced it will become involved at some point -- limits nicotine to 4mg for all nicotine-replacement therapies (NRT). That's one reason patches, gum, lozenges, inhalers, all fail. The smoker is left in constant, relentless craving. Not enough nicotine.

Same with e-smoking for me. I puff for a half hour .. and it only makes me want a real cigarette.

I was fascinated by Ruyan's answer to a comment I made elsewhere in this forum about the new KissBox. It said they are "limited by government" or something like that. Huh? What government? What limitation? I read that to mean we will NOT get a nic hit now or in the future.

I wish you are in Malaysia...So I can show you my samples of liquids which can really make your day...I get my Nic Hit mainly from my e-cigarette...like I said somewhere in this forum...the essence of the flavor used are very essential and plays a role in their penultimate success in the replacement as well as cessation of your real smoking...
 

jimldk

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RatInDaHat said:
well doc, you should start selling some awesome liquid. i'm sure many of us would buy it.

-Dusty-
I wish I know how.....I make some of the raw material on my own and trying to finalised the ingredients and I do mixed with ready made e-liquid and passed it on to my patients(and myself being the primer guinea pig) and my poor fellow bikers to test it out....well, all I can say is No one has died yet..Jeezzus.. :D :lol: :lol: :twisted: ...Sorry, sometimes the Jekyll in me do emerged ..old habits...hahaha :cool: :evil: ....I will take up your suggestions bro when I finalised the LD50 and filed for patency...if I ever come around to it.... ;)
 

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shogun said:
Thank you for your replies. I don't think I am getting ANY nicotine fix out of my mini cig :cry: If I did I think this product would be almost perfect.

I wouldn't form a final opinion based on your experience with the minicig. I haven't tried a mini myself but people tell me they don't work as well as the larger units. Seems the manufacturers were a bit ambitious in trying to ratchet down the size and performance has suffered as a result.
 

shogun

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TropicalBob said:
Shogun: Where do you live that Customs stopped an nJoy?

I live in Iceland. I ordered e-cigs from both Njoy and minicigarette.net at the same time. For some reason the shipment from minicigarette.net slipped through customs while the Njoy shipment was stopped.

I have applied for exemption to get my Njoy but I am not optimistic...
 

EricD

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I am definately getting a nicotine fix. I know this because when i go a day with just using the e-cig, i don't feel stupid the whole time lol. In fact, I feel more energized and I can actually smell my environment (for shame eric, for shame). The nicotine intake is not as substantial or quick as with a cigarette because it doesn't have the elements that cut the lining of your throat to make for quicker intake through the bloodstream, but that is to be expected. However, with extra high density liquid and some extra puffs, I feel its very similar. In fact, the tearing( <--- don't know if i spelled that right) feeling seems to be there when I drip for the first few puffs which is reassuring psychologically. I'm confident I will be completely cigarette free over the next couple of weeks, already cut down significantly and am only smoking because I'm having a really intense week....... and because i'm a smoker lol.
 

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shogun said:
TropicalBob said:
Shogun: Where do you live that Customs stopped an nJoy?

I live in Iceland. I ordered e-cigs from both Njoy and minicigarette.net at the same time. For some reason the shipment from minicigarette.net slipped through customs while the Njoy shipment was stopped.

I have applied for exemption to get my Njoy but I am not optimistic...
I wish I can help..but this might do....If you have any pharmaceutical or medical professionals friends , get them to prescribe a medical explanation( a prescription nonetheless) to allow this Njoy package to go thru...It must be for NICOTINE REPLACEMENT TREATMENT......I hope it helps...Good luck.... :| ;)
 

shogun

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I wish I can help..but this might do....If you have any pharmaceutical or medical professionals friends , get them to prescribe a medical explanation( a prescription nonetheless) to allow this Njoy package to go thru...It must be for NICOTINE REPLACEMENT TREATMENT......I hope it helps...Good luck.... :| ;)
Thanks for the tip. Custom has answered and they say that I can NOT import nicotine. They give the reason that other carefully valuated nicotine products already exist in Iceland (like inhalers and gum) and therefore they cannot allow an individual to import new nicotine product. Of course I am paraphrasing here but this is the gist.

If the cartridges would be labeled as having Zero nicotine I would be able to import my Njoy...

I just can't believe how stupid these laws are. I can buy cigarettes from almost anywhere but I cannot import a much safer product for personal use. I am thinking of writing a complaint to the ministry of health (no kidding).
 

TropicalBob

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You just might be The Eve Incident for Iceland. The first.

Other countries are going to be making similar decisions on the legality of importing, particularly, E-Liquid. Never before in the United States have we been able to acquire such a pure form of nicotine that wasn't an insecticide! Nicotine is deadly poison. Speck for speck, it's deadlier than arsenic and a number of other poisons. For years, it was sold as BlackLeaf 40, an insecticide in the States.

Here's something I found while writing a magazine article about e-smoking: The amount of nicotine needed to kill a grown man is 40mg to 60mg (a regular cigarette has about 1mg). Dr. Loi asked E-Cig how the nicotine in say, a 24mg solution, is measured. It's per 1ml. That's 24mg per 1ml. The smallest bottle sold is a thimble-sized 4ml. Tiny thing. There's 96mg of nicotine in there. That much would put a Suma wrestler six feet under if he drank it.

Do not leave it out where little children might be tempted to try it, or a pet might knock over a vial and slurp the liquid.

I will be surprised if many more governments don't ban importing this nicotine product. I've been hoarding, just in case.
 
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