are you satisfied with your spare parts? (atomizer) 801,901,RN

[parapo]

i mostly use genuine 901 801 and RN atomizer,and i am not satisfied with my last 2 shipments.

quality seems not to be what it was 2 months ago.
they just don't produce as much vapor anymore....

did you found anything similar or is it just me?

 

[Sun Vaporer]

i mostly use genuine 901 801 and RN atomizer,and i am not satisfied with my last 2 shipments.

quality seems not to be what it was 2 months ago.
they just don't produce as much vapor anymore....

did you found anything similar or is it just me?

Parapo--I can say without a doubt that the RN4072 in the last 2 months has gone downhill to the point that I refuse to buy it. It's failure rate is so high that it might as well be considered disposable IMO. Go with an 801 or Best BE112----Sun

 

[tokarev]

I like the penstyle atomizers from VaporNine. I think they are M201 models. I got 2 of the Rio kits and they have the electronic switches instead of vacuum switches. The atomizers are shorter than RN4072's, but have 4 holes. They have great draw and plenty of vapor. The Rio atomizers work great on my M304 (KISSbox type) PV. I think these may be the same as the atomizers that David Yang is selling at Ecigmall.

TT33

 

[Sun Vaporer]

I like the penstyle atomizers from VaporNine. I think they are M201 models. I got 2 of the Rio kits and they have the electronic switches instead of vacuum switches. The atomizers are shorter than RN4072's, but have 4 holes. They have great draw and plenty of vapor. The Rio atomizers work great on my M304 (KISSbox type) PV. I think these may be the same as the atomizers that David Yang is selling at Ecigmall.

TT33

Tok--If that is the case, then Ben at VaporNine recently changed his manufacture supplier as he was using a RN4072 when I purchased them from him--but that was a couple of months ago--Sun

 

[EDO]

Any one know who manufactures the atomizers that come with the minipipe? The failure rate is very high on these. The people who use RN on these are also claiming high failure rate.

In regards to the Rio being a M201....The M201s aren't compatible with 801s and other Penstyles....threading on the battery is different.

 

[bri1270]

Looks like Wayne at Heaven Gifts won't be stocking the 40xx series any longer. He's also got a disclaimer stating that they do not come with a guarantee.

 

[Stike]

Just got some from Beste-cig 112s they seem to be ok.The batteries were DOA but beci justed e-mailed me and is sending replacements

 

[EDO]

I have a feeling the mic switches get turned on...on the airplane...probably due to the noise and kill the battery. I ordered some stuff from Beci....I hope they arrive OK. I wish these mic switch batteries had a master on/off switch on them...that would solve all the problems with them.

 

[Stike]

I have a feeling the mic switches get turned on...on the airplane...probably due to the noise and kill the battery. I ordered some stuff from Beci....I hope they arrive OK. I wish these mic switch batteries had a master on/off switch on them...that would solve all the problems with them.

It's strangethe batteries were blinking and every time i touch them the turn on.The switch is the problem I charged one over night and when I draw the light fades on and off,but I do get some vapor they are deff. bad or broken hope your's and my new ones are ok

 

[parapo]

i'm not talking about a failure rate,
i mean producing less vapor from day one.

 

[fjames]

I don't know about quality, but the compatibility is making me crazy.

I use pen style exclusively. I recently purchased a starter 801 kit plus parts from two sellers. In both cases the atomizer in kit was different than spares. I also get spare carts when buying any pen - the carts from one of these only fit the original atomizer, not the spares.

On one of these kits, the spare atomizers were shorter than the kit one. Less than two weeks later a friend purchased same thing from same place, and the kit atomizer was the short one, the spares being longer. Sigh ...

Length isn't an issue really, it just shows a different manufacturing run, but the diameter was subtly different in one case, enough that the carts didn't fit.

Just the other day I got another set of atomizers from a different supplier. These had the same wick design as the original kit one from one of the above (where the spares didn't match the kit.) I call it the "Pikes Peak" design - you know what I mean if you've seen one - and I'm guessing I'll have to re-learn how to load carts just for these.

The draws and timing are different all over the place as well. There's simply no consistency with any of this stuff, so if you found something you like, you can't have any expectation of getting more it seems. No way to predict what you'll end up with, no way to make buying decisions except to hope one way or another you'll be able to piece it all together when the time comes.

I appreciate that manufacturers are attempting to improve their product, but I wish sellers would learn their products and then convey to buyers just what they have. Or at least make sure the damn carts fit.

 

[EDO]

Fjames just go with your m201s and do the trick I told you to make the mic switches less sensitive. I really think that the mseries are the best out there...m201, m401, and the m402. And as you know those aren't compatible with anything, so you won't have compatibility issues.lol

 

[fjames]

And as you know those aren't compatible with anything, so you won't have compatibility issues.lol

that made me laugh, I never thought of looking at it like that. Now that I got the sensitivity fixed I'm probably going to pick up some more spare parts.

 

[mukky]

Parapo--I can say without a doubt that the RN4072 in the last 2 months has gone downhill to the point that I refuse to buy it. It's failure rate is so high that it might as well be considered disposable IMO. Go with an 801 or Best BE112----Sun

Sun you seem to be quite knowledgeable when it comes to these things, so how do you know if you are getting an RN or a 801 atomizer when you buy it. I know some sites say 801 or whatever but other sites like puresmoker and the smokesafe just say penstyle atomizer, so how would I know if its a 801 or RN before I buy it, and how do you know which one it is after you buy it by just looking at it?

 

[D_Struct]

Looks like Wayne at Heaven Gifts won't be stocking the 40xx series any longer. He's also got a disclaimer stating that they do not come with a guarantee.

How did you come by the info that they won't be carrying the 40xx series any longer? Didn't see it on the site.

Do you know if they plan to cease selling the 4075 atomizers?

If so, I need to load up. All of the 4075 atomizers I've received from them have been top notch.

 

[Fox3]

I'm reaching a point of real frustration with this stuff, primarily the atomizers. Quality control on ALL this stuff simply sucks to be as kind as I can be.

My first PV was an 801, used it for about a month and in that time 3 vaporizers died for me and the same number for some friends who got them too. I purchased a second kit just to get vaporizers (now I know there are other sources but at the time I didn't). Supplier doesn't have any and I think he is out of business now (this may be why). Yesterday the last 801 vaporizer stuck it's little feet up.

Ordered 3 801 vaporizers last month and the order is still sitting there "awaiting fulfillment" and only one comm back about it and I can't see it would take over a week to "look into it". Probably time to talk to PP about it :-(.

Tonight one of my 510 vaporizers gave up the ghost. Resistance went up to around 70K and there were some kind of fiber in the side / bottom of the atomizer which I suspect is the stuff that the coil wraps around.

I ordered another 510 kit simply because it was $2 more than just ordering vaporizers for it. I *desperately* need a source of less expensive vaporizers. I really do like the 510 a lot.

If this keeps up, it will be cheaper going back to analogs as much as I don't want to do, but supporting this kind of QC and customer service is getting real expensive AND old real fast. I'm trying to be patient while this growth phase sorts it out, but I am not sure I can afford it.

Yes, I am certainly frustrated.

And, no, I did not abuse them. Use one a day and clean it out (blow with a piece of toilet paper inserted gently until it comes out clean). Ditto with the 510. I'm regularly vaping but not heavily, I don't think ?!?

Did I mention that I am really frustrated over this?

I ordered a 901 kit and spare atomizer. Same time my friends (the ones will only one working 801 left from all the parts) did too. They got theirs (mine is floating around in shipping limbo) and neither of them got one working 901 out of the deal. I was able to fix 2 of the batteries by tapping them rather firmly on the table but the other two batteries hold a charge for maybe a minute. Gee, I look forward to getting mine (presumably the same batch).

Did I mention that I am really, REALLY, *REALLY* getting frustrated with this mess?

 

[Sun Vaporer]

Fox3--Just a quick question for the notes--are you using VG or PG and what flavors are you using--Thanks for your input------Sun

 

[tokarev]

Tok--If that is the case, then Ben at VaporNine recently changed his manufacture supplier as he was using a RN4072 when I purchased them from him--but that was a couple of months ago--Sun

Sun - I purchased about 1 month ago. Unfortunately, Ben seems to be out of the Rio (penstyle) kits ATM, but the batteries I got with my kits do have electronic switches. They behave like my Pilot batteries in that they will fire if you blow gently on the LED end. They also tend to stick in the "on" mode sometimes, but they don't have the long 2 min. timeout of the 401's. Maybe they're not M201's, but they're not vacuum switched.

Anyway, the OP was complaining about atomizers, not batteries, and the Rio kit atomizers are the some of the best penstyles I've had. Ben's website still lists atomizers, but no Rio kits.

TT33

 

[Sun Vaporer]

Sun - I purchased about 1 month ago. Unfortunately, Ben seems to be out of the Rio (penstyle) kits ATM, but the batteries I got with my kits do have electronic switches. They behave like my Pilot batteries in that they will fire if you blow gently on the LED end. They also tend to stick in the "on" mode sometimes, but they don't have the long 2 min. timeout of the 401's. Maybe they're not M201's, but they're not vacuum switched.

Anyway, the OP was complaining about atomizers, not batteries, and the Rio kit atomizers are the some of the best penstyles I've had. Ben's website still lists atomizers, but no Rio kits.

TT33

Tokarev--Good to know--maybe Ben will chime in sometime and shed a little light!!! He usually is around-----Sun

 

[Fox3]

Fox3--Just a quick question for the notes--are you using VG or PG and what flavors are you using--Thanks for your input------Sun

Hilton (high) from TW (30 mL)
RedBull (med) from TW (3 or 4 droppers full)
Cola (med) from TW (3 or 4 droppers full)
Virginia (high) from Janty (10 mL ?)
Menthol (med) from my original supplier (15 mL).

As for PG or VG, it is whatever they come with, I think it is all PG. Did try some of the VG but that dried me out and so I don't use it other than the one time (one atomizer). Figure that if I want to mix I'll get zero strength and / or unflavored from TW.

The red bull and cola were just a few droppers from my neighbors to try and about half of that is left.

I've pretty much gone through the Hilton and put a dent in the Virginia.

The menthol is nice, but only as a rare occasion for me, almost all of that left.

In the just over a month since I have gotten into this I've used, near as I can tell, about 40mL.

Also the carts that came with the 801 and 2 extra 5 packs, but I think I still have 2 or 3 of those left. Used almost one pack of the RY4 that came with the 501 and 3 of the vanilla (last two are Janty IIRC).

From what I gather talking with folks, that isn't a heavy usage?

Apologies for the rant above but I have quit analogs except when I get paranoid about having everything fail and wondering how long it is going to take to get replacements (and starting to wonder if actually getting what I order is going to happen). I really do like these things and have come to dislike analogs. I like the "smoking process" but really have no desire to quit at this time. PVs are perfect if they were just somewhat more reliable, it would be WONDERFUL .