ASLoki's Startup Guide

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ASULoki

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Hello folks, I just wanted to provide my own experiences making the transition to e-smoking. I hope it is ok that I am mentioning some companies by name, this is only to offer what I believe is the best path specifically to get started. I smoked only for two years prior to vaping, but I have not smoked a single analog for 4 months now and I could not be happier. Here is my best advice on how to get started:
1. EQUIPMENT
a. You are going to want to pick up a starter kit. In my experience hands down the best place to go for startup equipment is ecigsupply.com. They have a 510 starter kit for about $40, and with the coupon “firsttime” I think, you get $5 off. This is a very good deal. The 510 is a good starter, it looks much like an analog, the only problem for heavy users may be battery life.
b. This step is optional, but while you are there, you may want to pick up one more 510 battery (the kit comes with two) and maybe two 510 atomizers. You will probably do this later, and you may as well consolidate the shipping. It is always good to have spares of these, one of your batteries might die, and the atties can break or get gross flavors in them that are difficult to remove. I went straight to dripping, and got a drip-tip (read up on this if you choose), but the cartridges are very reasonable also, you are going to want to fill your own carts or drip in the long run, trust me on that, much cheaper.
c. You probably will want to invest in a portable charging case. I found one for 510’s at electroniccigarettesinc.com (or something like that) for $15 free shipping! This one works pretty well considering the price, and has been very convenient for me on the go.
d. With all this stuff you are probably in the hole about 60-100 bucks, which is not too bad at all. If this is too steep, you could just do the starter kit for $40 which basically busts the myth, in my opinion that the equipment is expensive! You will need to understand that you might have to replace a piece or two once in a blue moon, but this should still be waaaaay cheaper than analogs in the long-term!
2. EJUICE
a. This is the toughest (and initially most expensive) aspect of e-smoking in my opinion. You are going to need to find a flavor you are happy with, the right nicotine concentration, and the proper pg/vg ratio.
b. First you want to find a site that offers reasonably priced sample packs (like wordupecig.com!) or cheap 5mil bottles (like vaporbomb.com!), this way you can experiment on some variables. Try to find a vendor that lets you choose the vg/pg ratio, both the vendors I just mentioned offer this service.
c. Find some flavors that you are comfortable with, either a tobacco that approximates your chosen analog brand, or just some flavors you like. Finding a good flavor can be hard, pick a reputable vendor and try a few different ones. Out of about 20 flavors I have sampled, I only like about 4, maybe I am picky!
d. Nic concentration is tricky, but generally heavy smokers may like 24mg, and light may like 12mg. I settled on 12, this variable will affect the throat-hit and also if too low could mean you are vaping constantly, too much and it could make you sick if you vape a little too often, so start low and work your way up if you think the amount is insufficient I think.
e. Vg/pg is also tricky. I started out on 80pg/20vg and this was too much pg. It was very bad on my throat and it almost felt like my throat closed up! Then I tried 100% vg organic stuff and the flavor was dull, and it tasted and felt, if this makes sense… glyceriney, very thick and no good. I settled on 60pg/40vg.
f. This is important, talk to the vendors. Most of them are small business owners, and they are still establishing themselves. They value customer feedback, and want return business and word of mouth. Ask them questions, get recommendations, and let them know what you like. Chances are they will give you important information about their products, and they will most likely send you some samples. These web businesses are basically in my experiences, very dedicated and helpful individuals.
g. Don’t get discouraged, it may take time to find a juice you like, it may take a few tries to get the nic and pg/vg right. vaping should be a very enjoyable experience, even better than smoking in my opinion.
3. THE TRANSITION TO VAPING
a. You may develop symptoms from quitting analogs, or get sick during the transition. People have a tendency to outright blame vaping for these problems. Lookup quitting symptoms and if you have a health problem, seek a medical professional. I am not saying it is not good to be cautious; just don’t self diagnose and blame vaping without justification.
b. HYDRATE YOURSELF this is the most important thing in my opinion. I always have plenty of water on hand when I vape. I bought a metal water bottle when I started vaping. This will prevent dehydration, health problems, and it can never hurt to drink plenty of water. HYDRATE YOURSELF, preferably with good old fashioned H20!
c. Seek out the advice of the vets on ECF. They may be a bit biased about vaping, but this is because vaping has in most cases really transformed their lives for the better. They have valuable experience and in are generally very supportive, wonderful and helpful people.
d. Add other positive life changes that vaping has made possible. One of the real benefits of vaping for me has been that I have all the fun of smoking, without the health problems. Go smell stuff! I have started to exercise daily, these positive life changes are bonuses to vaping that you are now capable of and should capitalize on. Of course give yourself some time for a transitional period.
Good luck on your transition into vaping! I hope this advice has been helpful.

-ASULoki
 

ShannonA

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Good guide...

only things I see is that I'm not sure a new vaper will be able to tell what pg/vg ratio would suit them. It might be good if you mention pg primarily gives you throat hit and vg primarily gives you vapor (that way they have something to guage which they might want more of in their liquid). I haven't tried other ratios but 70/30 works pretty good for me and seems to be fairly common.

On the nic (nicotine in case they don't have the abbreviations down yet) I'd note it's good to have two different strengths. I found 18mg suited me fine but on day 3 or 4 I started having trouble getting satisfaction out of my vaping... I vaped a little of hubby's 24mg and it solved this... after it passed I went back to the 18 and have stayed there so far.

It'd be nice to see this in the FAQ sticky
 
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Just thought I would let you know about is as a choice. When I first got started vaping I went kinda the same roughy you mention. My wife bought a Joye 510, ($40) I ended up using it, but the battery would only last me for a half an hour, so I wanted something that lasted longer, so I bought a Joye 510Mega, these have a bigger battery, and bigger carts. So I could now VAPE up to 2 hours between charges, and up to a half an hour before refilling my carts. I also bought pcc's and car adapters. Bought one full kit for me, and one full kit for the wife. ($299). Then I found this site, and started researching these things. I found out about the ego style batteries, and I felt like I had been ripped off! I spent WAY TOO MUCH MONEY! I wanted blood! Well not really. But after I calmed down I realized that I did spend way too much money, but I never smoked again.
So to give another choice, check out the Riva 510, it comes with two batteries, each battery lasts between 8-12 HOURS, so you don't have to buy the PCC that I bought, and you had to buy as well, plus the Riva by itself is less expensive then the smaller Joye 510! Once I found that out I was hooked, that's when I really wished that I had found this forum before I spent any money, but I didn't.
So without Furthur adu!
Liberty Flights is the site, in the top left hand corner of the site there is a button that says 20% off, click that before you look at Nything. Then on the main page there is the Riva 510, click that, and then scroll down again and you will find the Riva 510 Lite bundle. It is $29.99!!!!! That is for TWO attys, TWO batteries that will last between 8-12 hours each! Plus all of those carts you need.
Electronic Cigarette - Starter Kits - Riva 510
Oh and for juice, check out freedomsmokeusa, I buy a 150ML bottle of juice for $35! Thats about the best deal around. Plus it's pretty good juice, it is one of those that needs to steep though. So I usually order like 4 bottles, and by the time I'm done with the first bottle, the others are just right!
Good luck y'all,
 

ASULoki

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Hey, thanks for the reply. That kit actually looks like a great deal! the only problem I see for people starting out may be that they want something that looks and feels like an analog, particularly for public use. However, I think the longer people vape the less they care about this. I may look into grabbing one of those riva's soon!
I have not tried freedomsmoke usa, I went with what I found regarding the reccomendations on the forum. I will have to try them out. I would say if you haven't tried the flavor, it is best to start with a small bottle. I love vanilla, and I bought a 30mil from vaporbomb, and I didn't like it very much. I finally found a very nice vanilla at aroma ejuice and now I grab 30mil bottles from him. He is local, so I just pick them up, he also lets me sample stuff, just an example of how you should talk to vendors if you can, especially if they are local!
 

ASULoki

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These are both very good points. I figured there is plenty on pg or vg and their characteristics, so my intention was to offer new folks some strategies to go out there and try some different concentrations. However, it is always good in this respect to have a frame of reference. I have not tried 70/30, maybe I will give it a shot next time I order.

This is also a very good point on the nicotine strengths. I have never had a problem with 12mg, but I was not a heavy smoker. I have read material that when you first wake up, your nic levels will be very low and you may need something stronger first thing in the morning. It is also good when cravings like you described hit, to have something a little stronger. Again this is a very good point!
 
Great info! It is sure to help many. I am like you, I have tried a lot of juices and found about four that I like and stick with. I finally settled on 50/50, 12mg juices and I used to smoke Newports. The most amazing thing that I have discovered is what juice does over time. At first when I heard of "steeping" my thought was gimme a break. Then I tried some juices that I had tossed into the "dud" box because they were so nasty when I first received them. Wow, what a difference. Some were outstanding after 2-3 weeks. Now I order well in advance of needing to resupply so my juices can steep. It really makes a huge difference.
 

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Hi there! Great post! I just wanted to chime in and mention a couple of smokin' deals that I've recently found elsewhere on the forums!

For ejuice, Rockstarvapor.com is having a sale and offering 15ml - 5 packs (your choice of flavors, nic strength and ratios) for $20.

And Goodejuice.com is having a clearance sale of their Green Life EGO Dual 1300mah E-Cigarette Tank Kit for $39.99 with an additional $5 discount with the coupon code ECF10. This may be a propietary kit, however the batteries are 510 and 306 compatible.
 

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I did order a couple of these kits from goodejuice (along with some of their ejuice)...just waiting for them to arrive. If nothing else, $35 for a pair of 1300 mah bats is awesome! Just to clarify, the ejuice sale is at rockstarvapor.com...I haven't tried them but anyone who is thinking about it could first do a google search for juice reviews.

Edited to add: Found a couple of reviews for rockstarvapor ejuice...

Rockstar Vapor Reviews

Rockstar Vapor great new juice vendor
 
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