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What happens at 50W that has you concerned? And why do you want to vape it at 50W? Just because a coil is "rated" at a certain power level (usually overstated by the manufacturer too) doesn't mean that's always the best way to get the vape you're looking for. Could be high or lower. And what kind of juice are you using VG/PG wise? That info will help narrow things down.
 

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What happens at 50W that has you concerned? And why do you want to vape it at 50W? Just because a coil is "rated" at a certain power level (usually overstated by the manufacturer too) doesn't mean that's always the best way to get the vape you're looking for. Could be high or lower. And what kind of juice are you using VG/PG wise? That info will help narrow things down.

So i been using all brands and flavors of juice.. But one thing that was stable was 70/30 vg/pg.. I have seen some juices run cooler than others at 50 watts on VW.. So yeah.. Burnt through almost 5 coils now and on my 6th now.. Two of the oem and 3 replacements.. Help?
 

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When you say 2 oem and three replacements, do you mean 2 that came with the tank, and three from an authentic Cleito replacement box? And again, what's happening bad at 50W? Are you getting dry hits? Or not enough vapor production, or what's happening?

If it's dry hits (I'm expecting) it's important to prime the coil well before use. Take a fresh coil and place several drops of juice into it. Then place several additional drops around the juice holes on the coil. This assures the cotton is saturated. Insert the coil, fill the tank, an let it sit for 10 minutes or so. Take a few unpowered hits to again drag more juice into the wick. Then start out at a low wattage, maybe 20W. Probably won't be enough but that's fine. Keep raising the wattage a few watts at a time. As you get above 30W you should start getting vapor production (probably lower, but I'm being conservative). Keep going up by a few watts at a time until you're satisfied with the temperature of the vapor and amount of vapor. It may very well be less than 50W, but everyone has their own "sweet spot". New coils also take a bit of time to break in, which is another reason to increase the power slowly to help assure you don't burn the cotton.

Also, if those replacement coils are not authentic, all the above won't help if they are of inferior quality. Good luck!
 

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When you say 2 oem and three replacements, do you mean 2 that came with the tank, and three from an authentic Cleito replacement box? And again, what's happening bad at 50W? Are you getting dry hits? Or not enough vapor production, or what's happening?

If it's dry hits (I'm expecting) it's important to prime the coil well before use. Take a fresh coil and place several drops of juice into it. Then place several additional drops around the juice holes on the coil. This assures the cotton is saturated. Insert the coil, fill the tank, an let it sit for 10 minutes or so. Take a few unpowered hits to again drag more juice into the wick. Then start out at a low wattage, maybe 20W. Probably won't be enough but that's fine. Keep raising the wattage a few watts at a time. As you get above 30W you should start getting vapor production (probably lower, but I'm being conservative). Keep going up by a few watts at a time until you're satisfied with the temperature of the vapor and amount of vapor. It may very well be less than 50W, but everyone has their own "sweet spot". New coils also take a bit of time to break in, which is another reason to increase the power slowly to help assure you don't burn the cotton.

Also, if those replacement coils are not authentic, all the above won't help if they are of inferior quality. Good luck!

Appreciate you taking the time to answer my dumb question but what if i told u that i did exactly just that with all the coils.. Prime them on the outside and drip on the inside cotton not pooling so as to not get spit back of juice.. Sitting time of 30 minutes before first hit.. Starts with spit back at 30 and 35.. A bit at 40.. Something meaningful at 45 but thats after several hits of spit back and heated spit back.. Hope im making sense.. So after all that vapor at 48~50is watts.. Vaping fine for two days and on the third.. Not dry hits.. But that noticeable funky flavor.. On the fourth day i pull out the coil.. And viola! Burnt clapton.. So i repeat.. Not dry hits ever.. Thank you for taking the time for reading and replying to this..
 

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Athar - just persevere !!!! - Vaping has a learning curve, we have all climbed :)

The Cleito tank, is a large airflow - direct lung style device. So you should be breathing your vape down directly in one long pull, and then exhaling. There is no sharp inhale of fresh air to drive the vapor down to your lungs - like with cigarette smoking

You just breath through the device !!!!

Spitting, gurgling and flooding is simply too much juice getting to the coil

Dry-hits and burnt flavour is not enough juice getting to the coil

Vaping is all about getting the coil saturated, and burning it off with correct amount of power to vape comfortably

So the spitting is probably due to not enough power - so the juice is just boiling rather than vaporising

The dry hit burnt taste is due to poor wicking

A burnt taste is not always a sign you have ruined a coil though !!!!

When the flavour drops off, a dry hit is coming - Tank suffer from low pressure build up - Just unscrew the topcap a couple of turns, and look for a couple of air bubbles to come up through your liquid - screw the cap down and the flavour should have returned immediately

As the coil gets older, a build up of carbon will form around the wire inside the coil, this means the tank has difficulty recovering the low pressure build up inside the tank. So you will have to do the above trick more often.

I hope this helps, it is just finding the right balance of power to wicking for your style of vape
 
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Thanks guys for the input.. Must've gotten a 'bad' or 'fake' batch of coils.. Valuble lesson learned.. No matter what the item.. Always buy from reputable sellers..

This is #1. What's available obviously varies depending where you live, and I don't know the situation for vaping in Bahrain, but a reputable dealer helps as there are plenty of counterfeit items out there. Where it's really bad is batteries. It's so easy to rewrap a cheap battery and pass it off as a more expensive "name brand" that knowing the seller is very important. And of all the things that can go wrong with vaping that are serious it's battery failures.

I do hope you get it worked out as that type of flooding isn't something I remember reading a lot about with the Cleito. Something you could try to clear the coil is take it off the mod, hold a bit of Kleenex around the air holes (airflow open), and blow into the tank. That can sometimes help clear excess juice from the coil head.
 

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This is #1. What's available obviously varies depending where you live, and I don't know the situation for vaping in Bahrain, but a reputable dealer helps as there are plenty of counterfeit items out there. Where it's really bad is batteries. It's so easy to rewrap a cheap battery and pass it off as a more expensive "name brand" that knowing the seller is very important. And of all the things that can go wrong with vaping that are serious it's battery failures.

I do hope you get it worked out as that type of flooding isn't something I remember reading a lot about with the Cleito. Something you could try to clear the coil is take it off the mod, hold a bit of Kleenex around the air holes (airflow open), and blow into the tank. That can sometimes help clear excess juice from the coil head.

Yep the Situation is Vaping is still very young in Bahrain.. So almost everything is being ordered online.. I would like to find a reputable seller for batteries although the Sonys that i bought with the mod are pretty consistent.. But thanks for all your help Eskie.. Respect bruh..
 
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