Atty question

[my2heartboys]

OK, bought the Volcano Inferno package, then ordered 2 cisco attys. Problem is that these attys tend to produce really hot (temperature) vapor and to top all of that off they are a real pain to use and can't tell when they are clean.

Does anybody know what kind of LR atty that would go with this set? I am looking for a traditional atty that a mouth tip would set on. Right now I have one of their stainless steel drip tips sitting on my eCo and it works great with the atty that came with the eCo.

Other than this little problem I love both ecig sets that I have (just wish I could give brand new starter sets of the same type to my friend....unfortunately it is the same old problem $$).

 

[MASSACRE SOxCAL]

Cisco 306s produce warmer vapor than others,If its too warm try ordering GP 510 LR attys from Rob you wont be disappointed.

 

[my2heartboys]

Yep, had shot him an email after posting this. I ended up placing an order for 4 more GP 510 LR attys. As soon as I get those, I will PIF these others....with the warning about the vapor and the difficulty of use.

Anne

 

[dirt2suck]

The GP510 LR atomizers are a bit higher in ohms (which would run cooler and allow to use with 901 carts)

The Joye 306 and 510 LR are so low in ohm (running hot) that you need to use drip tips to perform.

Using the GP510 LR is in a sweet spot of its own, since you can use on almost any battery adn get excellent results.
Vapor and warmth, without burning or having to drip every few hits.

Adding that the eCo runs at 4volts, the GP510 Lr will perform a bit better than on typical batteries.

Hope it all works out

 

[my2heartboys]

How many ohms does the GP LR run? I wouldn't mind trying something a little warmer.....but the 306 has really killed my throat. The warmth actually brought out some of the flavors of my ejuice that I had not been able to taste, but like I said the other was too hot.

Any good suggestions for a happy medium (little warmer but cooler than the 306)?

Anne

 

[ukeman]

Rob, why does GP say that the GP LR is "2.0 ...tests at 2.3 to 2.5" or something like that? i don't get it.

 

[FeistyAlice]

Rob, why does GP say that the GP LR is "2.0 ...tests at 2.3 to 2.5" or something like that? i don't get it.

Ukeman, are you subtracting the internal resistance of the meter from your reading? My inexpensive meter has an average internal resistance of ~4-5. It's hard to pin down so I guesstimate 4. Close enough for me.

Alice

 

[ukeman]

Alice; not my question: i am merely quoting the site.
I do subtract int. resist. (my $5 meter including shipping) mine shows a .7 difference... but i am wondering why or how they post on the site "2.0... tested 2.3 to 2.5 ... check out the order page for GP LR 510.

hmm maybe they mean the atty will show 2.5 to 2.x without subtracting int res.... Rob?

 

[dirt2suck]

Well, I have no clue when it comes to resistance.
I know what it is and how it works, but there is some many variables.

Joye sells and markets the 510 LR at 1.7ohm but they test at 1.9 or 2 ohm.
The GP510 LR is sold as 2.0 but tests higher.

I put 2.0 and tests at 2.5ohm.
trying to show that its resistance is just over Joye LR to show that it a bit higher for more flavor, etc.

The GP510 LR performs the same if not better on an eCo, than a Joye 510 LR performs on an eGo.


When I started selling Joye eGo, they were testing at 3.7volts (batteries and kit batteries)
Everyone was saying they test at 3.3-3.5 volts, but could never agree.
Now something has changed and they test at the 3.3-3.5 volts.

I also have no clue what internal resistance is and what my vm IR is.

 

[tybin]

a think a joy standard atty tests around the same ohms as the gp lr attys...i have a batch that tested 2.1 to 2.3. i think that's good since they are now having debates on wether lower ohm lr attys shorten the life span of ego batteries.

 

[ukeman]

well my meter shows the few LR joye 510 and Cisco LR 306 about the same at 1.5 Ohm (after subtracting the internal resistance of the meter - just hold the red and black pins together and a number will show; that is the internal resistance) .. so the joye LR 510 will read 2.2 (2.2 - .7 = 1.5)

I love my atty for a 3.7 mod at 1.7 to 2.1 Ohm, as 1.4 to 1.6 is too hot for me....
so...
i will definitely check out your GPS510,

 

[ukeman]

a think a joy standard atty tests around the same ohms as the gp lr attys...i have a batch that tested 2.1 to 2.3. i think that's good since they are now having debates on wether lower ohm lr attys shorten the life span of ego batteries.

wow; some sites say joye reg is higher than that...
i wish there were more conventional standard or at least for siting Ohm where you buy.... I guess most just want either LR or Reg. but i am picky.. especially where $$$ for attys comes in.

note: when you read reviews of attys on vendor sites where they say "this regular 510 atty has the most vapor i've ever seen" , it means the Ohm is about 2.2; lower than the 2.5 and up of most reg 510 attys where you get so little vapor on a small 3.7 batt.

 

[tybin]

there is a long post another thread about resistance and amps and attys. you can do a search starting with: about low resistance and specific batteries. drozd really spells it out. look at post #48 post #31 and #33 are also helpful.

 

[my2heartboys]

UUUUHHHHH, one lost newb here. What is the relation between ohm, vapor temperature, and voltage? Please keep in mind, I am not very technically or electronically minded so please keep the explanation simple.

Anne

 

[dirt2suck]

Basically the lower the ohm rating or reading, the more atomizing or vapor is produced.

Now if you go too low, you will burn liquid and the flavor. Or you could just pop the atomizer and kill it.

Now the higher the voltage you go, the higher ohm rating you would need for the same amount of vapor and production.

Since all atomizers, whether the manufacturer or the style, the different the ohm rating is.
So it is up to the actually user to determine what is best for their preference and enjoyment.

With that being said, different liquids perform differently with different ohms....

and then it goes on and on.


Hope this helps.

 

[ukeman]

i get lost in the technological talk myself.
I find that reading the threads with the PVs of interest to me, and what people are having success with in terms of attys and voltage as far as i need to go.
there's always new things happening, and a lot that has been developed already.
All I need to know is what 3.7v power supply, combined with which attys get the most vapor/taste balance. I like VG in my juice for more vapor and PG/VG ratio seems to be the only other factor.
To cut to the chase, i suggest you just get 510s in the range of best vapor, from 1.5 to 2.0 Ohm, and see which taste you prefer...
In my opinion, i dont see how anyone can use an atty much over 2.1 Ohm and get decent vapor... generally speaking.

 

[dirt2suck]

Not trying to differ,

but that is what I am trying to explain....everybody has different tastes.

I think anything under 2 ohm is pushing it on anything above the 3.3-3.5v of the eGo.
Now stretching it to 2.3 ohm would be a good combo for 4volts as the eCo.

But then again, I was always more for flavor than TH and vapor.
I used to love the 901 and with the ego style, and the different combos as far as atomizer ohm.....you just need to try it out.

The eGo w/ Joye 306 or 510 LR is great, but when I go the the 4v GP eCo, i need to step it down a bit and get a little higher in ohms. Which is where the 2.0-2.5 work out good for me.

 

[tybin]

so what do you like the lr 306 on? do you use a mod for that? i've never tried anything but 510's

 

[ukeman]

totally agree, it's simple no?
Lower voltage with lower Ohms. The higher the voltage, the higher the Ohm. You put in the number that works for you; how much vapor without sacrificing taste (good vs burnt).

Where I and most are confused is the power source: everyone says 3.7v... is that because the battery says 3.7? I assume so.
But as ROb states, different voltages are evident in different "3.7v" pv's.... true voltage... not many are versed in that.
I say an eGo is 3.7 but it is not true 3.7... but that's what it's called.
Perhaps a true 3.7v mod would require a reg atty in the 2.1 and up range for best vape.

LR's are the most popular as most use "3.7"v pv's and want the most vapor.

Yet,
Different LR atty styles, 901, 801, give a cooler vape than the LR 510, 306. But the vapor production is the same: high vapor production.

You can get same high vapor production and a cooler vape with 1.8 LR 510 than a 1.5 Ohm 510.

Not trying to differ,

but that is what I am trying to explain....everybody has different tastes.

I think anything under 2 ohm is pushing it on anything above the 3.3-3.5v of the eGo.
Now stretching it to 2.3 ohm would be a good combo for 4volts as the eCo.

But then again, I was always more for flavor than TH and vapor.
I used to love the 901 and with the ego style, and the different combos as far as atomizer ohm.....you just need to try it out.

The eGo w/ Joye 306 or 510 LR is great, but when I go the the 4v GP eCo, i need to step it down a bit and get a little higher in ohms. Which is where the 2.0-2.5 work out good for me.