Automatic vs Manual battery
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Hi and welcome to ecf...
I like the manual button pv so I can control the length of my draw.....
the auto has a sensor that can 'come on' with any sudden movement and are really unpredictable.
the manual batteries are sealed...no way to get juice in them unlike the auto..because of the sensor.
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I like the manual button pv so I can control the length of my draw.....
the auto has a sensor that can 'come on' with any sudden movement and are really unpredictable.
the manual batteries are sealed...no way to get juice in them unlike the auto..because of the sensor.
imo
sas
Auto - more prone to being damaged by juice leaks. Some can turn on accidentally from wind or vibration. Requires a primer drag when not warmed up. Plus - you can hold it between two scissored fingers, and for people who need to vape hands-free a super-mini auto may be lip-holdable and vapable
Manual - Less easily damaged because not dependent on a drag sensor (especially ones that are totally sealed like manual 510 and manual RN4081). Won't be triggered by wind or vibration. You can press the button in .5-1.5 seconds before you start dragging to not waste energy dragging before there is much vapor, then let up the button slightly before the end of your drag Downside is you do have to press a button, If you keep it in a pants pocket you could potentially sit and press the button, and some PCCs do not work with manual batteries (mainly DSE901 PCCs which look like a cigarette pack and have round hard tubes to hold the batteries with no notch cut out for buttons. I use 510 manuals with the VaporMaxx PCC from NoSmokeVA which does have a cut out slot for the button to fit.
Manual - Less easily damaged because not dependent on a drag sensor (especially ones that are totally sealed like manual 510 and manual RN4081). Won't be triggered by wind or vibration. You can press the button in .5-1.5 seconds before you start dragging to not waste energy dragging before there is much vapor, then let up the button slightly before the end of your drag Downside is you do have to press a button, If you keep it in a pants pocket you could potentially sit and press the button, and some PCCs do not work with manual batteries (mainly DSE901 PCCs which look like a cigarette pack and have round hard tubes to hold the batteries with no notch cut out for buttons. I use 510 manuals with the VaporMaxx PCC from NoSmokeVA which does have a cut out slot for the button to fit.
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Welcome.
Auto: More like a cig. Needs a "primer puff" or a longer draw since it has a very slight activation delay.
Button: Instant activation, longer draw.
Auto batts are known for activating with loud music/sounds and wind. This varies by make/model. They also are NOT SEALED. so a leaky atty/carto can let juice get into the battery enclosure itself and then short the works.
Manual (button) batteries are sealed and don't activate with sound/wind. Usually longer cut-off if any.
Regarding the sealed battery thing: I have had conversations with others that had manual batteries malfunction. This can still happen if the button fails (mechanical failure) or if e-juice get into/under the button. Happens more with autos and leaky a atty/carto tho.
Most people get used to the button pressing thing, then won't go back to autos. Some love auto batteries for that cig-like action, and deal with the possible issues. To each their own.
Good Luck
EDIT: P.S. dormouse must type faster. lol.
Auto: More like a cig. Needs a "primer puff" or a longer draw since it has a very slight activation delay.
Button: Instant activation, longer draw.
Auto batts are known for activating with loud music/sounds and wind. This varies by make/model. They also are NOT SEALED. so a leaky atty/carto can let juice get into the battery enclosure itself and then short the works.
Manual (button) batteries are sealed and don't activate with sound/wind. Usually longer cut-off if any.
Regarding the sealed battery thing: I have had conversations with others that had manual batteries malfunction. This can still happen if the button fails (mechanical failure) or if e-juice get into/under the button. Happens more with autos and leaky a atty/carto tho.
Most people get used to the button pressing thing, then won't go back to autos. Some love auto batteries for that cig-like action, and deal with the possible issues. To each their own.
Good Luck
EDIT: P.S. dormouse must type faster. lol.
I started with a manual battery and liked it until I tried an auto. I much prefer the auto battery. A good one doesn't activate by sound or wind, it only activates when you actually draw on it. I ordered my batteries from Litecig Usa. If it has a cut off, I haven't experienced it yet and I habitually take slow, long drags. I've also never had them come on by themselves because of loud sounds (and with a brother who makes me listen to him play drums when he finds a new song he likes, he'd have definitely activated them if they were the sound activated batteries, drums are LOUD! Lol.) As for the primer puff, one drag is all I need. I get a little vapor on the first hit, and lots of vapor by the second hit. I was scared to refill my cartos because of many saying how easy it is to kill an auto battery if you overfill, but I read somewhere up here that as long as you don't see any juice in the center hole of the carto, you should be fine. I almost always see juice in the hole after refilling so I blow out the excess into a tissue until I can see through it and my batteries have been fine so far. The auto battery is much easier for me, I only bring out my manual batteries if I want to try out a new flavor without wasting a cartomizer since I can drip directly on the atomizer. It's all a matter of preference. If you've never tried a manual battery, I'd find a cheap kit if I were you so you can see if they're better for you. Besides, it's always nice to have an assortment of batteries. I know I have back-up around if my autos all decide to die at once. (Perish the thought!)
Hi and welcome to ecf...
I like the manual button pv so I can control the length of my draw.....
the auto has a sensor that can 'come on' with any sudden movement and are really unpredictable.
the manual batteries are sealed...no way to get juice in them unlike the auto..because of the sensor.
imo
sas
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...g-electronic-cigarette-primer.html#post505870
If you like dripping, you need manual batteries. Auto's get killed this way. Juice will find it's way down to the sensor in auto's and short it. I don't care for auto batteries simply because I have to draw harder on them then manuals. My cheeks will eventually start hurting...LOL.
I've heard there are older type autos with a smaller hole that would make it hard to draw, but apparently I've got the newer type with a larger hole in the center of the battery. The draw is very smooth. I don't have to draw any harder with the autos I'm currently using than I do with my manuals.
Manual all the way! Started with a Blu...terrible. If a little juice leaked thorough the cart, the battery degraded. Overpriced and deceptive. GO for the Riva520, or a 3.7v device for a good upgrade.
I use auto batteries only when I am driving or doing something that requires concentration. I will use manual batteries the rest of the time. I like the manual batteries much better because I can control the experience more easily.
I find my m402 auto draws easier than my 510 manual when I use an atty and drip tip on the 510. If I use a carto they draw about the same. I'm sure it depends on the quality of the battery (I saw someone say blu and I've not head much good about them). My daughter has a magma auto and she loves it, she also has the manual... she doesn't really seem to have a preference between the two.
Edit: my m402 doesn't cut me off until the atty gets hot...same as my 510 manual.
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Autos only for me. I've never had any of the problems people claim happens to autos.
Tried manuals. Too much like juggling, could never get a decent hit twice in a row, couldn't hold it like a real cig or just hang it out the corner of my mouth, button activates anywhere at any time.
I really think it's a personal thing, like boxers or briefs -- no objective reason to prefer one over the other, but people can become passionate about their choice.
Tried manuals. Too much like juggling, could never get a decent hit twice in a row, couldn't hold it like a real cig or just hang it out the corner of my mouth, button activates anywhere at any time.
I really think it's a personal thing, like boxers or briefs -- no objective reason to prefer one over the other, but people can become passionate about their choice.
I think it all depends on you and exactly which model you end up using. (Except, if you're going to drip, then it must be a manual battery.)
My first PV is a dse801. I have both automatic and manual batteries for it but really like the automatic better. I've never had any issues with it once I learned how to use it (relearn how to puff).
My second PV is a Gogo which only has manual batteries available. So far I have no problems with it although I have to relearn, again, how to use it.
Welcome to ECF!
My first PV is a dse801. I have both automatic and manual batteries for it but really like the automatic better. I've never had any issues with it once I learned how to use it (relearn how to puff).
My second PV is a Gogo which only has manual batteries available. So far I have no problems with it although I have to relearn, again, how to use it.
Welcome to ECF!
both are good it all depends on you if you are trying to replace ciggs go auto to start more like smoking then in time like everyone you will go to manual less chances of killing the bat when you start dripping no primer puff and in my opinion warmer vapper
I just ordered the 510 manual ones myself. using an NPro now, I like the auto feeling and surley wont mind the manual ones. I ordered them because of what people said about them.
I will use both just as much im sure.
I will use both just as much im sure.
Hello! I'm def having a problem with my manuals. Seems sometimes you have to push the button HARD & then it gets stuck! I wish I could give you a better answer, but I don't want to keep returning them I've had this happen on the regular and XL version. But from what I've heard, the auto's life-spam is shorter.
Wish I had a better answer...that's why I'm here: Trying to find solution.
I've had this happen on the regular and XL version. But from what I've heard, the auto's life-spam is shorter.Wish I had a better answer...that's why I'm here: Trying to find solution.
I have both---as listed above there are pros and cons to both. I use the manual for tobacco and coffee vapes (warmer). I use the auto for mint/icy/menthol vapes (cooler). They both have a place in my vaping life.
I like the new autos much better than manuals. All the old reasons listed by earlier posts for not choosing an auto are old school. The new ones are not activated by sound or wind, whereas manuals can be activated in your pocket or purse. They don't need a primer puff and you don't wear callouses or holes in your finger or thumb pushing a button a 1,000 times a day either. The new cartos don't leak so there isn't any danger of leaking into the battery unless you are extremely careless. The manual buttons can stick and wear out from pushing them so often. The vape is much more relaxed and enjoyable for me with an auto whether it is with my 1300 mah Echo or with my small cig size 220 mah. I really can't think of a good reason to have a manual over a auto myself.
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