Hey folks. I'm having a bit of trouble bottom feeding my AVA atty on my Reo. It just came in the mail today. Is anyone doing this successfully ? It seems like when I squonk the juice doesn't really go up (or not enough) and it just comes out the airhole sides. I have a full juice bottle in right now and am kinda disappointed this $40 atty isn't really doing what I hope. I know it takes time to break in but it seems the feeding is the issue...not sure. I have the SR bottom feed version.
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Hello LegioX I wish I could help but I don't have one of them hopefully someone that has one will chime in with some input
Thanks and its ok! My Reo is great this atty is just frustrating lol. Might be time to order some 357s =/
The AVA is different. it doesn't have mesh below/around the coil. just those ceramic cups... When I had mine on my mini, it required a lot more suction to get the juice up to the coil. Of course, that can result in juice in your mouth, but as with all things, you'll get the hang of it...
The other thing about the AVA that's hard to get used to is that it heats up slower. There's a little delay between firing the button and it producing vapor.
Overall - I really hate mine. I think if they come out with a version 2 with something to keep the juice near the coil, it might be the best thing ever. As it is, it's OK for dripping (not stellar because sometimes it won't keep the coil wet even when I just dripped right on it), but I decided it wasn't very useful for my feeders.
The other thing about the AVA that's hard to get used to is that it heats up slower. There's a little delay between firing the button and it producing vapor.
Overall - I really hate mine. I think if they come out with a version 2 with something to keep the juice near the coil, it might be the best thing ever. As it is, it's OK for dripping (not stellar because sometimes it won't keep the coil wet even when I just dripped right on it), but I decided it wasn't very useful for my feeders.
Thanks six,
I can see what you're saying there. There probably should be some mesh around the coil. I may just try direct dripping on it then and try to break it in and see where that takes me. Oh well, I knew it was too good to be true lol.
I'm going to try a HH 357 again. I had poor TH from the long barrel ones so hopefully with a shorty I can get some real TH. Though I think getting juice in my mouth will be a problem again. If only there was a perfect atomizer for every aspect with flawless use! I guess I can keep dreaming haha. Anyways thanks for the insight!
First - there are quite a few people who have reported way better results with the AVA than I've had. The_Sneaker_Hoarder has a lot of good things to say about his, for instance. -- When I do get a couple of good drags off mine, the flavor is outstanding. You might find that you like it after it's broken in... but I sure haven't had a good experience with mine.
I have to admit that I really don't care to use an hh.357 on my REOs. I might change my mind about it when I'm able to follow mwa's advice and get a trippy tip donut so I don't get juice in my mouth any more. The hh.357 is my favorite atty on other devices I own, but not my REOs. At least twice a day, I end up overfeeding just a little bit and it spits.
What I settled on (and love) for my VVW is the ikenvape i06. The flavor is almost as good as the hh.357 and it is way more forgiving for a little overfeeding. I don't think I've ever had the i06 spit juice in my mouth. My Mini almost always has a cisco 306 on it (except on days I'm running a 1.8 ohm boge carto for the extra capacity of using a carto on the mini).
I won't give up hope on it quite yet, after what I spent on it lol. The thing is it seems to do better with direct dripping and thats just a pain. I was reading about the AVA and it seems they do vary widely in performance..
As for the HH 357, I agree with you on the juice spitting. Its almost a joke how you're supposed to pull hard and thats when the juice spits at you. However I saw a couple ways to fix this. One is placing a bridge inside of the drip tip to block the juice spit.
Another I just thought of when I saw a swivel tip drip tip last night. If I angle the tip about 90 degrees then I'm assuming the juice won't be able to reach my mouth. I'll report back with both methods and hopefully I'll be in a better vaping place
As for the Cisco 306 - I think its a great atty for the price but the flavor hasn't impressed me lately and I've had mixed results. Maybe I'm just rusty from all my tank usage.
Oh and I used to LOVE the io6 atty. They lasted me forever and the flavor/vapor/TH was incredible. Lately they have dropped in performance IMHO; some have came primed, impossibly stiff draw, inaccurate ohm ratings. I keep giving them a try but they're never the same as the first few months I was using them.
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I will never buy one, I heard that they work well but most who claim this are top feeders, not bottom feeders.
The fact is that the company who makes them is in business primarily for a different kind of pv... An herbal pv.
I hold nothing against them for that, but it seems their products would be better suited for other applications IMO. I don't want to have to wait for my atty to heat up before vaporization occurs, that takes you back to the "primer puff" of the penstyle days.
For the money you can almost buy a rebuildable that will last you for the foreseeable future
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The fact is that the company who makes them is in business primarily for a different kind of pv... An herbal pv.
I hold nothing against them for that, but it seems their products would be better suited for other applications IMO. I don't want to have to wait for my atty to heat up before vaporization occurs, that takes you back to the "primer puff" of the penstyle days.
For the money you can almost buy a rebuildable that will last you for the foreseeable future
-Sam
I will never buy one, I heard that they work well but most who claim this are top feeders, not bottom feeders.
The fact is that the company who makes them is in business primarily for a different kind of pv... An herbal pv.
I hold nothing against them for that, but it seems their products would be better suited for other applications IMO. I don't want to have to wait for my atty to heat up before vaporization occurs, that takes you back to the "primer puff" of the penstyle days.
For the money you can almost buy a rebuildable that will last you for the foreseeable future
-Sam
Point taken
I am actually very interested in rebuildable atties and am not entirely up to date on them. Do these require extensive knowledge and use of soldering etc. ? I'd appreciate it if you could point me to a place to get some nice info on rebuildable atties? I see some that cost a ton of money...which I'd be willing to pay if these things are consistently amazing and reliable.
Do you have a REO VVW or a 3.7v REO like the Grand/Mini? If you have a 3.7v REO then that's your problem because you're using the SR AVA. I use an LR AVA on my Grand and it's great now after breaking in! The AVA's seem to require more voltage than a normal atomizer to work well, so a 3.0ohm AVA on a 3.7v device will not work well at all.
So I'm rocking an HH 357 shorty right now. I'm running a swivel drip tip tilted as far as it can go, with a 306 bridge stuck at the bottom of the drip tip. Still getting juice spitting at me lol...do I have to break it in more or use seriously less juice? I just squonk for a two-count.
Do you have a REO VVW or a 3.7v REO like the Grand/Mini? If you have a 3.7v REO then that's your problem because you're using the SR AVA. I use an LR AVA on my Grand and it's great now after breaking in! The AVA's seem to require more voltage than a normal atomizer to work well, so a 3.0ohm AVA on a 3.7v device will not work well at all.
I have a VV woodvil. I was using it at max voltage (5.5-6) and getting very cool vapor with the taste being nothing special. I'm messing with my HH 357 now. I'm glad your having success with the AVA. I was getting tons of hissing even 3-4 seconds after I let go of the button. The right amount of juice to feed seemed to be a problem for me.
Yeah, you're getting to much juice- take the atty off and blow it out, then try vaping and see if that wont work...try it first without a squonk, if it's to dry then give it just a slight mash to where you see juice come out of the air holes in at the bottom of the atty and see if that does it. Good luck- I didn't have much luck w/ the HH but then a lot of people here love them and swear by them!!
You may be right! I ordered the Aero 306 bridgeless and its coming tomorrow
I think the problem I had with Ciscos was that the bridge doesn't allow enough juice to get to the coil, especially on the thin plastic drip tips. Whenever I used them I would test them on my Provari to get an ohms reading and direct drip...they frustrated me so much the Cisco never made it to my Reo.I just figured this out by watching a youtube review...they say to remove the mesh around the bridge at the very least, but I haven't tried the aero 306 so I just got that and I'm hoping that its going to rock my world
I find the Aeros to mute the flavor of the juice and they are more apt to be spitty without the bridge. Personally I wont order them again I have several here for emergency use only. tried several other 306 with lousy results but thats just my opinion or so Im told 
I find the Aeros to mute the flavor of the juice and they are more apt to be spitty without the bridge. Personally I wont order them again I have several here for emergency use only. tried several other 306 with lousy results but thats just my opinion or so Im told
Ah ok...well thanks for the heads up lol. I guess I'll see. If anything I'll definitely give the regular cisco 306 another shot. Justice do you dewick or demesh or anything like that?
Thanks for the tip Justice. I'm rocking the aero 306 right now at around 3.6ish on my VVW. I must say its the best vape I've had out of every atomizer of equal or higher price in a long time. I can't really tell when to resquonk because it always sounds kind of gurgly so I just do it when the pulls feel less powerful. So far so good. Hopefully I don't start getting a gunky taste like I usually get but as for now I'm liking it.
my regular cisco 306s come tomorrow so I will do a comparison and it seems I will be happy spending $10 on an atomizer instead of $25 or $40 lol. Also got the 306 stainless steel drip tip..that might improve the flavor over this crummy plastic one
my regular cisco 306s come tomorrow so I will do a comparison and it seems I will be happy spending $10 on an atomizer instead of $25 or $40 lol. Also got the 306 stainless steel drip tip..that might improve the flavor over this crummy plastic one
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