Avoid Totally Wickeds stuff - Way overpriced!

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LowThudd

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I was just over at totally wicked got there by mistake on some link from a post on this forum.

Lol. An Ego Case is $24.99...!!!

I've seen them at multiple sites at under $10 bucks!

They are a ripoff ...... so noobs stay far, far away from that rip site!
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Yea, it's only worth buying stuff there when it's on special. They do have good prices on close out stuff, but their regular prices are way too high. I wouldn't say stay away as much as shop around. There are some ecig sellers that are MUCH worse than TW, they are actual con artists like Smoking everywhere.
 

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Since a friend introduced me to e-cigs and I decided to make the switch, I've done some shopping around at various manufacturer sites for the e-cig products with the intent to sell them locally, and I can tell you that one angle TW is using versus some of the more "discount-oriented" sites is the option of personalization. It allows you to re-brand the model and call it whatever you want... such as the Titan. The discount sites simply buy the kits and market them under whatever product name is provided by the manufacturer.

There are quantity requirements for this service, however, and it puts the retailer in the position of making a decision... quick sales and lower profits, or slow sales and higher profits. The answer to the decision lies in how much capital a business has to start with, and how soon they need to see returns on their investment. Low capital = quick product turnover, High capital = more turnover time allowed.

Also, product personalization is a time-tested marketing strategy. Folks in retail use the term "value added", for example, to describe things like personalization, extended warranties, etc. Personalization, as a "value added service" from a distributor/manufacturer, creates the perception in the customer's mind that this is a unique product to that retailer, and sets it apart from other products that may well be similar, if not identical in construction.

As far as knock-off clones, that's actually a misconception from what I've been able to learn about the e-cig manufacturers, with only a few exceptions. There are several companies in China who (I'm guessing on this part) either share the patents collectively due to a joint research venture, or have non-exclusive license rights on the patents. They ALL manufacture the same products, and they're all quite close in proximity, considering the size of China itself, and the fact that about 70% of them are all in the same province. Most likely, they're all in the same industrial park. Now, I'll grant you that the quality can, may, and likely WILL vary from manufacturer to manufacturer, but... well... you get the rest of my point, I'm sure.
 

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I do agree that on SOME products Totally Wicked has crazy prices.

BUT, they always have stuff in stock, have EXCELLENT customer service, and sell a QUALITY product, that they warranty, and stand behind.

PLUS, they are one of ONLY TWO direct suppliers for Joye products. You are NOT going to get a knockoff there. TW and Janty are the two.

The prices are for GENUINE Joye stuff, at Joye's prices, just like Janty.

I have found things I prefer, like box mods, and Hello 016 batteries, but if I was going to buy 510, and eGo stuff and cared about warranty and quality TW is where I would buy it from.
 

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As far as knock-off clones, that's actually a misconception from what I've been able to learn about the e-cig manufacturers, with only a few exceptions. There are several companies in China who (I'm guessing on this part) either share the patents collectively due to a joint research venture, or have non-exclusive license rights on the patents. They ALL manufacture the same products, and they're all quite close in proximity, considering the size of China itself, and the fact that about 70% of them are all in the same province. Most likely, they're all in the same industrial park. Now, I'll grant you that the quality can, may, and likely WILL vary from manufacturer to manufacturer, but... well... you get the rest of my point, I'm sure.

Negatory, there are LOTS of knock off products coming out of China. Especially when it comes to Joye products. And they have a much higher failure rate sometimes. Other times the knock offs function fine. It's kinda the luck of the draw. That is one thing TW has going for it, they are genuine Joye products. Joye and Janty products tend to work much better than the knock offs.
 

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PLUS, they are one of ONLY TWO direct suppliers for Joye products. You are NOT going to get a knockoff there. TW and Janty are the two.

The prices are for GENUINE Joye stuff, at Joye's prices, just like Janty.

Cignot and several other suppliers sell genuine joye products also. There are quite a few actually. Like greenhouseone.
 

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TW can have great deals sometimes. Got a second screwdriver body for 39 bucks not long ago for a spare. My buddy got a SDMKII starter kit for 79$ I think it was. You just gotta keep an eye out for their sales. But I think someone that has barley been around this community calling TW a ripoff is a bit much.
 

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As far as knock-off clones, that's actually a misconception from what I've been able to learn about the e-cig manufacturers, with only a few exceptions. There are several companies in China who (I'm guessing on this part) either share the patents collectively due to a joint research venture, or have non-exclusive license rights on the patents. They ALL manufacture the same products, and they're all quite close in proximity, considering the size of China itself, and the fact that about 70% of them are all in the same province. Most likely, they're all in the same industrial park. Now, I'll grant you that the quality can, may, and likely WILL vary from manufacturer to manufacturer, but... well... you get the rest of my point, I'm sure.

Having been to China several times, I've seen the Chinese mindset at work. Their society doesn't reward originality; instead copying what someone else does. There is little or no enforcement of patents or joint ventures between competitors.

A funny example is shoe repair.....they'll be 20 vendors on the street doing the exact same thing instead of finding a section of the business that's not being addressed and fill it. That, more than anything, is why you see clusters of similar businesses. Their concept of business ethics is nothing like ours....nothing.
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I stand corrected, your statement is also confirmed on Joyetech's website. I'd link it, but I've not yet been an active enough member. Simply search yahoo for JOYE Electronic Cigarette and choose the link that takes you to the Joyetech website. From the homepage, find the article titled "Joyetech eGo new products STATEMENT and WARNING".

This tidbit makes one wonder about the authenticity of the 901 and other models.
 

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I stand corrected, your statement is also confirmed on Joyetech's website. I'd link it, but I've not yet been an active enough member. Simply search yahoo for JOYE Electronic Cigarette and choose the link that takes you to the Joyetech website. From the homepage, find the article titled "Joyetech eGo new products STATEMENT and WARNING".

This tidbit makes one wonder about the authenticity of the 901 and other models.

Probably a bit less of an issue, as Joye products are the biggest sellers in the world, so therefore offer the most reward for the effort of creating a knockoff. But to be honest, I must humby state that I do not even know WHO originated the 902, so I couldn't tell a knock off from the real thing. Do you know who originated the 901? I guess I'll have to do some research on that.
 

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I think TW has very good prices when you buy multi packs, yes you lose the warranty and have 48 hr to check your stuff and call but I have never had a failure from them. I use them as back up supplies and make a fair size order so shipping is not as bad. I do love that 5 charger though it's is the perfect size.
 

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Just my two cents....if you don't like TW's prices, don't buy from them !

Simple really.

Difficult to say when they have 5 4081 attys for $21. That is not a high price, and I will be giving them some money for that reason alone. Not a TW fan though, also not a devil worshiper so their logo does nothing for me. j/k lol
 
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