AW Battery Question

[sandybeach]

The AW IMR batteries come either protected or unprotected.
Unprotected: AW IMR 14500
Protected: AW 14500 750mah 3.7v protected Battery

I thought with the AW IMR Li-mn you don't need to get the protected ones??

 

[slumdog]

The protected are LiIon not LiMn they are not safe... Stick with the orange imr LiMn

 

[grillman65]

I thought all protected batteries were safe, care to explain.

 

[zoiDman]

The protected are LiIon not LiMn they are not safe... Stick with the orange imr LiMn

Why do you say that Protected Li-on are not safe ???

 

[zoiDman]

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I thought with the AW IMR Li-mn you don't need to get the protected ones??

This is true.

AW IMR are made from what is called "Safe Chemistry". So it is not consider necessary to have Protection

 

[Retriever]

If the protection circuit fails in a "protected" battery, it can and will explode. With the IMR batteries, they are considered "safer" for our purposes (using attys, etc.) and can handle high drain applications. If they fail, they will produce mainly excessive heat, but will not explode.

 

[yzer]

Neither IMR or protected ICR (li-ion) are completely safe but I consider both to be safe if used and charged properly.

Some high-drain pvs are made for use with IMR exclusively.

IMRs feature faster drain than ICRs. Per battery size IMR battery capacity is less than than protected ICR.

 

[tj99959]

IMR's are not the only bats that AW carries, just like not all IMR's are AW brand.
No battery is 100% safe, so don't confuse safer with safe.
Protected batteries are safer, safe chemistry batteries are safer
Common sense is safest
Most accidents happen because of improper maintenance or improper usage.

 

[sandybeach]

So of those two batteries, which is better?

 

[Retriever]

So of those two batteries, which is better?

Depends on the device. For vv, I'd go with the AW IMR. What are you using them with?

 

[ITPython]

IMR's are not the only bats that AW carries, just like not all IMR's are AW brand.
No battery is 100% safe, so don't confuse safer with safe.
Protected batteries are safer, safe chemistry batteries are safer
Common sense is safest
Most accidents happen because of improper maintenance or improper usage.

QFT.

To me IMR and protected both have their problems, I personally prefer protected, even for high-drain devices, but that could just be me. In the end it's all about how the battery is going to be used, under what circumstances, and knowing the proper methods to keep them properly, and safely, maintained.

Also brand recognition is very important as well, perhaps more-so with protected cells than unprotected IMR's. But either way I would always choose the better brand over the unknown knock-off ones that have little to no QC.

 

[VapourMonkey]

Would it be a difficult thing for a manufacturer to produce an IMR battery with a protection circuit or would the amp output of the battery be too much for it?

Just thinking that would be best of both worlds, protected safer chemistry.

 

[grillman65]

The AW IMR batteries come either protected or unprotected.
Unprotected: AW IMR 14500
Protected: AW 14500 750mah 3.7v protected Battery

So is my red AW IMR 18490 3.7v 1100mah battery protected or not, it does not say on it. Where can I find the C value info. Should I measure the voltage will my meter before putting on charge.

 

[VapourMonkey]

The AW IMR batteries come either protected or unprotected.
Unprotected: AW IMR 14500
Protected: AW 14500 750mah 3.7v protected Battery

So is my red AW IMR 18490 3.7v 1100mah battery protected or not, it does not say on it. Where can I find the C value info. Should I measure the voltage will my meter before putting on charge.

grillman, the second link is a protected Li-ion battery not an IMR. Your red IMR is not protected, C value is 8
Testing voltage before and after charging is always a good idea.

 

[sandybeach]

Depends on the device. For vv, I'd go with the AW IMR. What are you using them with?

A vv box mod.

 

[zoiDman]

The protected are LiIon not LiMn they are not safe... Stick with the orange imr LiMn

Yeah we know. If the Protection fails so can the Battery.

WSo what is the QQA per 1,000 Battery Failurse? Are we talking 1 in 1,000? 1 in 10,000? 1 in the chances of Winning the Lotto?

I don't like the term "Safe". Just like I don't like the term "Not Safe"

The only dif is I have done Enouf Math to Know the Difference.

Sadistically Speaking that is.

 

[zoiDman]

A vv box mod.

What type of hit do you like?

Are you looking for a 5 volt, Melt Your Face Hit? Or are you looking for something less than 4.5 volts?

Is Battery Duration a Factor?

 

[sandybeach]

What type of hit do you like?
Are you looking for a 5 volt, Melt Your Face Hit? Or are you looking for something less than 4.5 volts?
--I like a tight hit - usually use a 1.25 dual coil carto at 4.25 volts, or 1.5 dual coil at 5 volts. H

Is Battery Duration a Factor?
-- Nope

 

[Nomoreash]

A vv box mod.

If it's a 2 battery configuration that uses smaller batteries like 14500 then IMR would be best. If it uses larger batteries like 18650 it's up to you as both would have a high enough current range to use throughout the voltage range without stressing the batteries.

If the vv device uses one battery with a booster circuit then go IMR.

 

[mke67]

Read this, especially AriM's responses...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/requests-opinions-reviews/255646-aw-vs-trustfire-18350-battery-battle.html