Bad cartomizer? Is this to be expected?

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gital

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I have been vaping for about 2 months now and have 2 510 auto kits and an ego kit. All has been great for the most part but the other day one of my cartomizers quite literally smoked 2 batteries. I had only been using the cart since the day before. Either way I certainly know now that if you go puff puff and smell burnt plastic dont put that cart on another battery. What I really am looking for is how common is this. The supplier I bought the ego from doesnt even sell batteries for the unit and given 2 prior battery failures from the ego kit I certainly will not be buying another full kit.
 

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I had an experience, about three weeks ago, when I screwed a carto onto each of my two eGos, and the lights on both batteries blinked 20 times. Both eGos recharged fine after that and have worked okay ever since. I don't recall if I quit using that carto or not. Both batteries should not have needed to be recharged before that happened. One probably had a couple more hours and the other should have had several more hours before needing to be recharged.

Probably dumb questions, but have you tried to recharge the batteries? Have you waited for a while and tried to recharge them?

GoodProphets.com and Cignot.com have single eGo batteries (900mAh at GP)(900mAh and 1000mAh at Cignot) available at low prices. Liberty-Flights.com might have some single batteries...not sure. And I'm sure there are many other suppliers who have individual eGo batteries available. I would also check madvapes.com, litecigusa.net, puresmoker.com, and vaporheads.com, to name a few.
 

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Well im hoping that the supplier I bought everything from will replace the batts the carto fried they already replaced one of the ego batts aswell as the defective one they replaced the first one with. But no I wouldnt even try to put either of those batteries on a charger. With the ego that got cooked I was outside and just smelled something funny but when i put the carto on my 510 auto back in the house smoke literally billowed out of the led end of the battery. It took nearly 2 hours for the smell to clear out of my office. I have also opened the ego and can see where the circuit board is cooked it was already pulling apart all the time so i figured why not.
 

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Well im hoping that the supplier I bought everything from will replace the batts the carto fried they already replaced one of the ego batts aswell as the defective one they replaced the first one with. But no I wouldnt even try to put either of those batteries on a charger. With the ego that got cooked I was outside and just smelled something funny but when i put the carto on my 510 auto back in the house smoke literally billowed out of the led end of the battery. It took nearly 2 hours for the smell to clear out of my office. I have also opened the ego and can see where the circuit board is cooked it was already pulling apart all the time so i figured why not.

Ah, that didn't happen to my batteries. No smoke or burning smell. Just the light blinked 20 times, so I recharged them. I don't know...must be some problem with the atomizer shorting out the batteries. That's too bad, and I hope they'll replace your batteries.
 

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Do you know what brand carto's they were? myfreedomsmokes I think has the best price currently for ego batteries $11.xx for standard 650's with coupon code ghost.

Gital would be better off buying a higher mAh battery for just a few more dollars. The battery will last a lot longer before needing to be recharged (for example, instead of 4 to 8 hours for the 650mAh, a 1000mAh battery will last 12 to 16 hours, depending on how often it's used). For me, this is the most important factor, and I think it's probably the most important factor to everyone.
 

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Gital would be better off buying a higher mAh battery for just a few more dollars. The battery will last a lot longer before needing to be recharged (for example, instead of 4 to 8 hours for the 650mAh, a 1000mAh battery will last 12 to 16 hours, depending on how often it's used). For me, this is the most important factor, and I think it's probably the most important factor to everyone.

They have the 1000mAh battery too I think that comes out to around $16 or 17 after coupon code.
 

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Any suggestions on a 1000mah battery that is compatible with all my 510 gear?

I will be honest here overall I have had good luck with 1 vendor I say overall because I have had 2 batteries fail, plus 2 more get killed by a bad carto,they forgot to ship something once, and one of my chargers failed. This all within the last 2 months or less. The trick though is that they have made everything right and until they say "NO we will not take responsibility for the carto we sold you killing 2 batteries" then they will continue to get all my business.

Even with repeated problems (though the only major issues to be honest is the battery failures) good customer service and standing behind what you sell is far more important to me than than a flawless experience. That being said I have already released another $150 order with them for juice and yet another PV device (I will not name it since I think they are the only ones that sell it and I am here for info not to smear anyones good name)

Main point being I would really rather not switch to a new vendor but I am open to suggestions to better equipment I keep upgrading and giving my stuff away.
 

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Hi, gital! Just my opinion, but it sounds like you're putting up with way too much BS from this vendor. Sure, their customer service may be great, but they keep sending you crap. That doesn't make for a good experience in my book. I'm going to suggest you try MadVapes, LiteCigUSA, and LibertyFlights. I've dealt with all of these vendors and all have sent me top notch equipment that they stand behind. I ordered 10 Mega cartomizers from LiteCigUSA and the very first one I tried was DOA. I emailed Shawn, and he sent me a replacement the very next day, no questions asked, no need to return the DOA cartomizer first. THAT is great customer service and that is the only piece of defective hardware I've had so far.
 

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They have the 1000mAh battery too I think that comes out to around $16 or 17 after coupon code.

They have the 900mAh battery for $26.95 regular price before any discount. Their 650mAh starter kit is $89.95. Prices are too high and are cheaper at other sites. Cignot has the 900 and 1000mAh batteries for $24.00 each, with no discount, and $5 shipping if orders are less than $59.01.

Goodprophets has the 900mAh battery for $21.99 less 5% discount (coupon code TVCfriend). I'm waiting for my mail lady to bring me two of those. She's late today!
 

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They have the 1000mAh battery too I think that comes out to around $16 or 17 after coupon code.

I only know that Cignot has the 1000mAh batteries. That's where I got mine and have had no problems. There are probably other suppliers who have them, but I can't remember or don't know at the moment.
 

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I think the main issue here has been lost and I may be partly to blame for this. The real question is if it is common for a carto (Bauway 2.5 ohm) to kill and I mean were talkin FRY batteries. If this is the case I am not really sure I want to use cartos at all.

No, I don't think it's common. I've been around here every day reading threads for the last 6½ weeks and have never seen anyone post about that issue. I only know it happened to me once but didn't harm my 1000mAh eGo batteries. That carto was probably a Boge 510 hard cap bought from litecigusa.net. These suppliers receive the products from China and have no way to test every single carto or any other items before shipping them to customers. It's just one of those things that happened, and I really don't think it's common. Without knowing all the facts of exactly what happened (and you may not know all the facts, either), I don't know the reason why that happened to you. (Even if I knew all the facts, I'll bet I still wouldn't know...ha).
 

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I think the main issue here has been lost and I may be partly to blame for this. The real question is if it is common for a carto (Bauway 2.5 ohm) to kill and I mean were talkin FRY batteries. If this is the case I am not really sure I want to use cartos at all.

I've seen a few cases of low res atomizers killing batteries, but not smoking type kill, and I don't think I've ever seen a report of a cartomizer frying one like you describe. Chargers occasionally, cartomizers, no. "Normally" if a something is going to go wrong with a cartomizer it simply makes a popping noise, the coil probably, and then stops working. Granted they're 808s rather than 510s, but I've been through dozens of cartos at 2.x ohms without one ever even dying on me, let alone killing a battery, and I used kr8 equipment at the time which runs at a slightly higher voltage than the 510 models. Personally I think you may have gotten hold of that one in a million "something is really borked" cartos. You might take a look inside that particular carto and then check out another one, see if there is any obvious difference between the two.
 

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Good call the bad one has filler in the center and no sign of the red wire. As far as being the 1 in a million thats what I want to hear. I like my magic smoke and as we all know nobody sells replacement magic smoke so once its gone your electronics cant work anymore.

I've seen a few cases of low res atomizers killing batteries, but not smoking type kill, and I don't think I've ever seen a report of a cartomizer frying one like you describe. Chargers occasionally, cartomizers, no. "Normally" if a something is going to go wrong with a cartomizer it simply makes a popping noise, the coil probably, and then stops working. Granted they're 808s rather than 510s, but I've been through dozens of cartos at 2.x ohms without one ever even dying on me, let alone killing a battery, and I used kr8 equipment at the time which runs at a slightly higher voltage than the 510 models. Personally I think you may have gotten hold of that one in a million "something is really borked" cartos. You might take a look inside that particular carto and then check out another one, see if there is any obvious difference between the two.
 

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Good call the bad one has filler in the center and no sign of the red wire. As far as being the 1 in a million thats what I want to hear. I like my magic smoke and as we all know nobody sells replacement magic smoke so once its gone your electronics cant work anymore.

Sounds like the wire may be bunched up somewhere and touching something really bad, unless it disintegrated in the resulting meltdown. I can't imagine anything else causing this since it was two separate batteries back to back. If it was a single charger for both batteries keep an eye on that as well though, just to be safe. Chargers can do some really weird things. I had one that would charge the batteries just fine at first, but within a day or two the batteries would blink at me and not fire when I put a carto on them, they also wouldn't charge anymore. After three different batteries going belly up in the exact same way, the vendor and I finally figured out that it had to be the charger since that kind of failure rate for batteries is pretty much unheard of.

Rule of thumb around here; if you attach part A to part B and it smokes, melts, or just stops working when it was fine a second ago, throw part A away. Never attach part A to anything else, especially when part A costs a fraction of part B. You're certainly not the first person to retry a defective part on another battery, and probably won't be the last. :)

I've only had the magic smoke get out once...in my computer...fried motherboard + surge protector guarantee = new computer.

Lol glad that your surge protector guarantee provided you with another computer. That's why I refuse to use the USB port on mine for my batteries. The computer would cost a heck of a lot more in time and frustration than the price of a wall charger.
 
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