Basic info on mechanical mods please.

[Davantrac]

Hi I'm looking into buying a mechanical mod. But my question is how do you control it? Basically how do stop it burning your liquid? I've had an innokin and learned how to turn it up and down, voltage,watts etc to get a good vape but that has packed in now faulty button I think and after only about 5 months that's bad. So looking into the mech mods, maybe the kato hammer something like that.
any advice info will be welcome.
cheers.

 

[Despraci]

Hi I'm looking into buying a mechanical mod. But my question is how do you control it? Basically how do stop it burning your liquid? I've had an innokin and learned how to turn it up and down, voltage,watts etc to get a good Vape but that has packed in now faulty button I think and after only about 5 months that's bad. So looking into the mech mods, maybe the kato hammer something like that.
any advice info will be welcome.
cheers.

Honestly if you are asking these questions... You are not ready for a mechanical mod. Learn to build coils on a variable voltage device first. Mech mod wattage is controlled by your coil build and when the fire button is pressed we are crating a dead short from the battery to the coil. So if built incorrectly something goes boom. Until you master coil builds, have an ohm meter, and an understanding of ohms law, you are not ready to move to mech mods.

 

[Susan~S]

I agree with Despraci. There are MANY variable v/w mods out there that will allow you to experiment with coil building safely.

 

[takanopolis]

I agree. A mech mod is made for vapors that have mastered atleast the cookie cutter coil and want to sub ohm lower than their regulated mods will let them. A VV/VW regulated is the way to go until you know what your doing. The chip just might save your life.

 

[doctadrea]

I agree. A mech mod is made for vapors that have mastered atleast the cookie cutter coil and want to sub ohm lower than their regulated mods will let them. A VV/VW regulated is the way to go until you know what your doing. The chip just might save your life.

I agree with the the above posters, except the bold portion. One does not need to sub-ohm to use a mech mod. I'm happily puffing away on mine at 1.3ohms.

 

[Bonkers]

you can get a fuse that is suppose to stop the battery from melt down, but basically you control the wattage by the ohm of the coil ie.. a freshly charged battery @ 4.2v with a 1.5 Ω would give you 11.76 watts. http://www.the12volt.com/ohm/ohmslawcalculators.asp, you would stop it from burning your juice by keeping the coil wet so you would probably want to use something rebuildable

 

[Davantrac]

I do know how to build a coil or the basics of building one but didn't realise there was so much to it. I was hoping, thinking, I could just use ready made bought tanks the same as the ones variable units. Ie stick an iclear 30 on one.

 

[Bonkers]

I do know how to build a coil or the basics of building one but didn't realise there was so much to it. I was hoping, thinking, I could just use ready made bought tanks the same as the ones variable units. Ie stick an iclear 30 on one.

you could use an iclear 30 just be aware of the battery voltage and your watts. hell my first mod was a mechanical and back then there was no rebuildables we used prefabed attys and cartos the biggest drag about a mech was the voltage sag as the battery drained

 

[doctadrea]

You can put a tank on a mech as well. Just remember that the battery will have no auto-shutoff. You'll have to monitor the battery manually so it doesn't drain down too low.
The same basic rules apply. Use a safer chemistry battery with an amp limit appropriate for the ohms of whatever you put on top of it. Use a good charger. The mech mod, if fired accidentally, may keep firing until it goes boom (no auto-shutoff feature) so always lock the switch when you put it in your bag or pocket.

 

[Vaslovik]

I do know how to build a coil or the basics of building one but didn't realise there was so much to it. I was hoping, thinking, I could just use ready made bought tanks the same as the ones variable units. Ie stick an iclear 30 on one.

Don't get a mech. You have much more homework to do. An iClear is hardly a wise or appropriate atty to use on a mech, and you would need an adapter to even get it on one. A clue that it's not meant to be used on a mech. Take your time, learn ohms law, learn about battery safety, and rebuildables. Don't just rush out and get a mech. There's more to it than you currently know.

 

[Davantrac]

Mmm this is starting to look very un inviting now. It's starting to look like too much fussing about. Thanks everyone for the info, I'll start looking for something reliable and controllable.

 

[The Ocelot]

I do know how to build a coil or the basics of building one but didn't realise there was so much to it. I was hoping, thinking, I could just use ready made bought tanks the same as the ones variable units. Ie stick an iclear 30 on one.

Hi

As other have posted, you can use ready made tank on a mechanical, but keep in mind that regulated devices were a step up from mechanicals. With a mechanical the power goes down as the battery discharges, but a regulated device will produce a consistent level of power until the battery can no longer supply the voltage and it will blink to be recharged.

 

[The Ocelot]

Mmm this is starting to look very un inviting now. It's starting to look like too much fussing about. Thanks everyone for the info, I'll start looking for something reliable and controllable.

What is your price range?

 

[Davantrac]

Looking at something like this now.....Ksd Mukey APV double barrel vamo new v5 chip | eBay any comments on this or recommendations of something like this style.

 

[doctadrea]

Hi

As other have posted, you can use ready made tank on a mechanical, but keep in mind that regulated devices were a step up from mechanicals. With a mechanical the power goes down as the battery discharges, but a regulated device will produce a consistent level of power until the battery can no longer supply the voltage and it will blink to be recharged.

 

[Davantrac]

Price is not really a factor, but don't want to spend for the sake of it. I want reliability and simplicity and would like to keep it down in size, so box shape mods or pipe style like the kato hammer I mentioned would have been brilliant.

 

[Nick N]

I have the Vamo v5 and it is a nice device. It can do max 6 volts / 15 watts, and fit most if not all tanks and drippers.

Edit: Your link works now, the only down side I see it that it is chrome, which some say chips or wears off. Try to find a stainless steel one like this:

https://m.fasttech.com/p/1816702

I am surprised no one mentioned using a kick with a mechanical. I have one on the Nemesis and I like it more than the Vamo, although I am limited to 12 watts and no battery/voltage/ohm checking ability on the device...

 

[The Ocelot]

Price is not really a factor, but don't want to spend for the sake of it. I want reliability and simplicity and would like to keep it down in size, so box shape mods or pipe style like the kato hammer I mentioned would have been brilliant.

I suggest you look at Innokin iTaste MVP 2.0. It's a highly regarded box mod.

ETA: I can't give the Vamo a good recommendation. Although it's popular, it has problems with the 510 threading. When looking to buy any device I always tell people to browse the sub-forums to see what sort of problems current owners are posting.

 

[The Ocelot]

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Huh?

ETA: Never mind. I think your point was my statement that regulated devices were a step up from mechanicals. I suppose I should have gone into detail, but it didn't have anything to do with my point. People started building mechanicals because they weren't getting what they wanted from cig-a-likes (some of which were regulated and some weren't), but when better regulated devices came on the market they were a step up - for those who wanted to just vape, rather than build and those who never wanted to build at all. I should have said that the more evolved regulated devices were a step up in making a good vaping experience more accessible.


i haz made pun

 

[Bonkers]

I don't mean to be argumentative but an iclear 30 has 510 threading so you can put it on a mech and I think the lowest Ω head you can get is a 1.8 so I think the op won't blow his face off. it may not serve the op as well as a vv/vw mod. I'm sorry but when I started vaping all you could get was a mech and a 100 people weren't saying don't buy one you don't know what you're doing. but David do learn some ohms law http://www.the12volt.com/ohm/ohmslawcalculators.asp and some battery facts Basic to Advanced Battery Information from Battery University