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If you get authentic batteries it's usually safe unless you're running mech, where you have to worry more about the safety parameters.

For most regulated mods, just get a battery that is at least 20amps. Good batteries that have been tried and tested are

Sony VTC5 (Green)
LG HG2 (Brown)
Samsung 25r (Blue)

There are other batteries but these are the more common ones that are preferred. I personally recommend the LG HG2 like epic recommends. It's 3000mah supposedly and supplies 20amps.

If your mod has a charging circuit, check reviews it it is safe. Or you can be like me, I use a nitecore charger to charge all my 18650.

Oh and always remember to pair your batteries if you're using a dual box.

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Guys, i just bought a panasonic 18650BE. Is that ok for 0.25 ohm?? I cant find the batt model in steam engine.

if you're using that battery and want to maintain your 25watts, you'll need to build at around 2 ohms or higher.
better just not to use it if u vape at that wattage
 
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Just get the Samsung 25R, can use for anything and best value for money. Never ever use battery < 10A max diacharge for E-Cig, unless u are vaping less than 12W. Study the battery curve.

Those standard non high-drain batteries with max 6A/7A dischage have always been meant for 1A or less usage, for freaking torchlights or other low-current device.

Always take 50% off the max current rating and cal the corresponding power from there. Reason, you know why once you look at how battery discharge their current from the discharge curves (V vs mAH)

At more than 50% of the battery max amp rating, the capacity and voltage starts sudden drop to 3.6V and a steep decline, so only short duration or pulse vaping is advisable, unless you have dual 18650s in series. Study all the battery curves carefully and know how to interpret them, then you'll realise what I'm saying. e.g. : Battery Tests.

Even for my 3 yr old Evic 11W which I used for MTL vape and flavour testing, I have also since replaced with High-Drain battery, reason as explained below. Not only safer this way but last much longer than those rubbish XXXFire bats rated at 6A and below.

SOP on how to interpret battery curves (for Voltage vs mAh) for comparator tests:
1) Select your battery and select the discharge current. ( after calculating using ohm's law)
2) Normal Vaping range is 4.2V down to 3.5V or 3.2V depend on ur regulated mod before cut-off (means lowest battery bar). In general, take 3.6V as reference and see how fast it drops 3.6V at your chosen current.
3) At 3.6V, observe the corresponding mAH value below.
For e.g. for Trustfire batteries, at a mere 5A drain, you can observe it immediately drops to 3.4V with only abt 600mAH capacity, which is horrible.
Whereas for Samsung at 5A, you can vape til no tomorrow. Even at 3.5V, it can vape with 1100 mAH. and can take til 20A drain minimum.

Another good chart is goto individual tests and observe how the battery voltage at selected current drain vs vape time in seconds, and watch as it drop pass the voltage.

Once you realize this, unless you wanna use for torch lights or vape at <3A or ~6-9W max (Ego-Style), then still safe, else you'll immediately throw all your standard 18650 batteries away, lol.
 
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Just get the Samsung 25R, can use for anything and best value for money. Never ever use battery < 10A max diacharge for E-Cig, unless u are vaping less than 12W. Study the battery curve.

Those standard non high-drain batteries with max 6A/7A dischage have always been meant for 1A or less usage, for freaking torchlights or other low-current device.

Always take 50% off the max current rating and cal the corresponding power from there. Reason, you know why once you look at how battery discharge their current from the discharge curves (V vs mAH)

At more than 50% of the battery max amp rating, the capacity and voltage starts sudden drop to 3.6V and a steep decline, so only short duration or pulse vaping is advisable, unless you have dual 18650s in parallel. Study all the battery curves carefully and know how to interpret them, then you'll realise what I'm saying. e.g. : Battery Tests.

Even for my 3 yr old Evic 11W which I used for MTL vape and flavour testing, I have also since replaced with High-Drain battery, reason as explained below. Not only safer this way but last much longer than those rubbish XXXFire bats rated at 6A and below.

SOP on how to interpret battery curves (for Voltage vs mAh) for comparator tests:
1) Select your battery and select the discharge current. ( after calculating using ohm's law)
2) Normal Vaping range is 4.2V down to 3.5V or 3.2V depend on ur regulated mod before cut-off (means lowest battery bar). In general, take 3.6V as reference and see how fast it drops 3.6V at your chosen current.
3) At 3.6V, observe the corresponding mAH value below.
For e.g. for Trustfire batteries, at a mere 5A drain, you can observe it immediately drops to 3.4V with only abt 600mAH capacity, which is horrible.
Whereas for Samsung at 5A, you can vape til no tomorrow. Even at 3.5V, it can vape with 1100 mAH. and can take til 20A drain minimum.

Another good chart is goto individual tests and observe how the battery voltage at selected current drain vs vape time in seconds, and watch as it drop pass the voltage.

Once you realize this, unless you wanna use for torch lights or vape at <3A or ~6-9W max (Ego-Style), then still safe, else you'll immediately throw all your standard 18650 batteries away, lol.
Thanks for the reply bro..appreciate your time..i'm using ipv4s which has dual batt..still unsafe??
 

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Thanks for the reply bro..appreciate your time..i'm using ipv4s which has dual batt..still unsafe??

Corrected the typo, should be in series. So its still unsafe for standard 6/7A batteries in dual parallel it will still be subjected to same amp limit, only that it has more mAh.

To be safe for high power vaping > 75W, dual batteries first need to be high-drain and be in series ( of course the chip must be designed to be able to step down) but most mid-range regulated mods uses parallel config.

Your IPV4s should logically be wired in series, same as my IPV3 Li, due to allowance for its highest power settings. But once u vape more than 75W and above with 0.5 ohm coil, you are already draining ~ 12A! Even in series, its 6A each which is near ur max current rating. Your standard batteries gonna risk venting.

Look at the charts and u'll know why, even if u vape near 50W, the current drawn already exceeds ur std bat's 50% drain, can literally throw away, as the vape time is ridiculously shorter than what it is designed for.

Anyways, as mentioned, these standard batteries are design for < 12W vaping at not less than 1.2 ohms which equates to around 3A current drain.

Aiya, just dump or put aside those free giveaways or standard 6/7A limit batteries and do not ever use them.

Its no fun having a battery venting (or worse, exploded) battery inside your mod.
 
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Corrected the typo, should be in series. So its still unsafe for standard 6/7A batteries in dual parallel it will still be subjected to same amp limit, only that it has more mAh.

To be safe for high power vaping > 75W, dual batteries first need to be high-drain and be in series ( of course the chip must be designed to be able to step down) but most mid-range regulated mods uses parallel config.

Your IPV4s should logically be wired in series, same as my IPV3 Li, due to allowance for its highest power settings. But once u vape more than 75W and above with 0.5 ohm coil, you are already draining ~ 12A! Even in series, its 6A each which is near ur max current rating. Your standard batteries gonna risk venting.

Look at the charts and u'll know why, even if u vape near 50W, the current drawn already exceeds ur std bat's 50% drain, can literally throw away, as the vape time is ridiculously shorter than what it is designed for.

Anyways, as mentioned, these standard batteries are design for < 12W vaping at not less than 1.2 ohms which equates to around 3A current drain.

Aiya, just dump or put aside those free giveaways or standard 6/7A limit batteries and do not ever use them.

Its no fun having a battery venting (or worse, exploded) battery inside your mod.
But i bought the panasonic batts bro..not free gift..hahahaha! Damn..wrong batts again..
 
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